The reason other company's SIM cards cannot be used in the iPhone is (most likely) because the iPhone is locked to ATT's network. If the iPhone can be unlocked at some point, then other SIM cards should be able to work in it. The key is that it's not something unique about the SIM card, it's the lock on the phone that is the issue.
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The reason other company's SIM cards cannot be used in the iPhone is (most likely) because the iPhone is locked to ATT's network. If the iPhone can be unlocked at some point, then other SIM cards should be able to work in it. The key is that it's not something unique about the SIM card, it's the lock on the phone that is the issue.
As far as I have read no A2DP. But maybe that is coming later. It is the same way with Tiger - no A2DP support, Leopard has it. So maybe come October there will be a software/feature update.
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Yes, but terms of service not allowing it, and it actually being physically prevented, are two entirely different things - at least, they are on T-Mobile.
I think the DOA phone thing isn't because they're expecting to not have enough phones, it's because when one breaks they don;t want to have 5 people running in a store with broken iPhones as potential customers watch.
It's not gonna stop me form buying one, my Xbox 360 was supposed to be DOA by all the claims people were throwing out there at launch, but I bought one anyway. I'm not saying the thing will break, but IF it does, it's good PR on Apple's part by keeping people hidden.
It's not gonna stop me form buying one, my Xbox 360 was supposed to be DOA by all the claims people were throwing out there at launch, but I bought one anyway. I'm not saying the thing will break, but IF it does, it's good PR on Apple's part by keeping people hidden.
WHY no BT/USB Wireless Modem Support?!
So Apple, WHY no BT/USB Wireless Modem Support?! What a stupid design error if true. I want to connect the iPhone to a laptop for network access if need be!
So Apple, WHY no BT/USB Wireless Modem Support?! What a stupid design error if true. I want to connect the iPhone to a laptop for network access if need be!
I think something close to that would make more sense. You put down a deposit of 300/250, and when you bring back the loaner you get your get your money back.
Not sure it's a design error... Doesn't AT&T sell a data plan that's just for data cards that go into the card slot on laptops? And for a lot more than $20 unlimited? They may be afraid of cutting off some income from that "service"... Maybe part of the deal with Apple... "Ok... You demand this and that from us... Fine... We then demand that you don't allow any tethering with this device".
Looks good on paper, anway. Err... Makes sense on paper... Yeah... That's the ticket.
I would like to see them at least allow it to be used for a fax, though... A lot of us who have had cell service for some time dropped our land lines... I have a fax modem built into my tired old eMac, but can't send any faxes through it... No dial tones in the house. Do these other phones you mention for tethering work for faxing, too?
Getting a little Off-Topic here, but does anyone know if Skype or other VOIP services can be used for faxing with a fax modem? Assuming you have a "box" that plugs normal phones in for the VOIP service (and not just a USB VOIP phone).
DOA policy??!!
The DOA policy is garbage. I can understand if you take it out of the store and return the next day and claim it's DOA, as they aren't trained to see if you broke it or not.
But if I'm in the store, at the fricking counter, they open the box, turn it on, hand it to me and the thing is DOA, they either give me one that works, or give my money back. You don't go to a store and buy something, have a clerk hand it to you and have it not work, then have someone tell you to mail it off for repair.
I can understand this policy for those twits who break things when they take them home, and try to get a "DOA exchange" the next day, but if they open the box IN the store and it's DOA, and expect me to walk out with it, that's rediculous. I'd call MasterCard, cancel the payment, and tell them to shove it.
/end rant
The DOA policy is garbage. I can understand if you take it out of the store and return the next day and claim it's DOA, as they aren't trained to see if you broke it or not.
But if I'm in the store, at the fricking counter, they open the box, turn it on, hand it to me and the thing is DOA, they either give me one that works, or give my money back. You don't go to a store and buy something, have a clerk hand it to you and have it not work, then have someone tell you to mail it off for repair.
I can understand this policy for those twits who break things when they take them home, and try to get a "DOA exchange" the next day, but if they open the box IN the store and it's DOA, and expect me to walk out with it, that's rediculous. I'd call MasterCard, cancel the payment, and tell them to shove it.
/end rant
From my understanding, they wont open the box till after you have paid for it. I am curious what the iPhone does the first time you turn it on. Will it just say activate me? or will you be able to play with it some.
Worse than that... On page 14 of the PDF:
"Customers who purchase iPhone will leave the store with a sealed box. The box is not to be opened in-store."
Maybe that means that the sales staff is not to open it... I'm sure they're not going to chew you out if you open one in there, but then again, who knows what kind of stupid corporate rules have been laid down... Either by AT&T honchos, or Apple honchos.
Again, on page 14 of the PDF:
"iPhone will remain inactive until it is activated using iTunes. In the inactive state it will not make or receive calls, except for emergency calls. As well, the iPod, Internet, and Wi-Fi capabilities will not be functional until the device is activated."
That doesn't explain what the phone tells you right away, but it'd be interesting to see if anyone who walks out with one will pop their current SIM card in, "Just to see what happens"... Granted, even if the thing did have enough power in the battery to work, features would be missing when using a current AT&T SIM.
I would think that there may be a "link" (button) to take you to some basic instructions and requirements (iTunes and OS versions required, etc...). Just in case the paperwork blows out the window when you just toss them into the back seat and have your windows down when you get back on the highway blasting way over the speed limit to get home and activate it.
You asked for Voice Dial???
A lot of people (throughout the various threads that are popping busy tonight) are bitching about NO VOICE DIAL...
On page 21 of this manual, it states that Voice Dial will be available:
Not sure what OLAM is (maybe OnLine Account Manager?), but it looks like it's going to be available... Probably for an extra fee, which will really blow.
A lot of people (throughout the various threads that are popping busy tonight) are bitching about NO VOICE DIAL...
On page 21 of this manual, it states that Voice Dial will be available:
Features available post activation via Customer Care or OLAM:
- Early N&W
- Roadside assistance
- International data (new feature being created)
- International calling (AT&T WorldConnect)
- Voice Dial
- iPhone Data Plan with 1500 or Unlimited M2M SMS
- Answer Tones
Not sure what OLAM is (maybe OnLine Account Manager?), but it looks like it's going to be available... Probably for an extra fee, which will really blow.
Can't agree more. If you buy something it should work, if it is DOA you should immediatly get a new one and something like a flower for the trouble. Not waiting 3 days on applecare. That will cost a lot of bad-pr.
I really hope the Bluetooth details are just an error of omission, otherwise this phone might as well be DOA for me. I'm not going to buy a $500 (or 500 euro here) phone with crippled Bluetooth.
As for the DOA policy, I don't know how it works in the US, but it wouldn't fly anywhere here in the EU.
How does it work though - is everyone encouraged to buy AppleCare protection, or is it bundled?
As for the DOA policy, I don't know how it works in the US, but it wouldn't fly anywhere here in the EU.
How does it work though - is everyone encouraged to buy AppleCare protection, or is it bundled?