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You, sir, get it. The technologies create new capabilities that will adapt to the market. The luddites are only capable of seeing innovation as a loss.

yup, things are just changing.

why have 1,000 books on your shelf when you can toss it on a kindle? someone who wants 1,000 books on their shelf instead of on a kindle is just a hoarder ;)
 
This is exciting, since my music library already tops 16 GB and isn't shrinking any time soon. Now, I saw a little bit about it in the article, but does anyone else know if the general consensus is that ALL of ones music could be stored? As opposed to just iTunes-purchased songs. That's crucial.
 
This is exciting, since my music library already tops 16 GB and isn't shrinking any time soon. Now, I saw a little bit about it in the article, but does anyone else know if the general consensus is that ALL of ones music could be stored? As opposed to just iTunes-purchased songs. That's crucial.

knowing how apple is.....probably itunes purchases only.
 
knowing how apple is.....probably itunes purchases only.

Highly doubt it. I really hope not to be honest. They need to be competitive with Amazon if they do iTunes purchases only I believe they will lose a ton of Market share to Amazon. I think (hope) that Apple is smarter than that.
 
I understand the concept of all this, but what if you're in a place with bad reception (or no WiFi for users without an iPhone)? I don't think that I'll be switching to an all-cloud storage service any time soon.
 
when ur at ur home you'd be connected to wifi so usage wouldn't be a problem. i don't know why anyone pays for the $15/month plan that's a complete ripoff to begin with.

My wife and I both opted for the 200MB plan because our usage over the previous year never exceeded that amount (and often never got close) even while on vacation and using Maps. Therefore paying twice that, or more, for unlimited usage is/was a waste of $. For two iPhones that saved $360/yr which is substantial for us.

If the Apple service works like DropBox to sync all my music on all my iTunes/iPod devices AND is only active over WiFi, then I will probably make use of the service since it would essentially be the wireless syncing for which many have been asking.

As an on-the-go music stream over cell service it is useless to me.
 
I understand the concept of all this, but what if you're in a place with bad reception (or no WiFi for users without an iPhone)? I don't think that I'll be switching to an all-cloud storage service any time soon.

I do not think that is the plan. I believe the service will allow you to download your songs as well. It just gives you the option to go to the cloud if / when needed.
 
You never OWNED any of this stuff. You owned the physical media, and you had an unlimited license to you. The technology is just clarifying this.

If you had actually owned it, you could have copied it as much as you wanted-- legally-- and resold the copies to others. You have been capable of doing this, but it was illegal; it also was difficult to enforce the law. Now the technology is actually starting to match your legal rights. It's actually wonderful. You are not losing anything you had legally, but the true owners (the content creators and the people who support them financially) can stop getting ripped off by criminals.


+1 LOL!

Have to laugh... so many people here are upset about nothing. All it says in this rumor is that you would have the option of storing your libraries on-line and access them from multiple points. And if you upload something you already "own" they will take that too. Not just what you've purchased from iTunes.

It's a value added service that I'm sure Apple is looking to do something different with and I'm sure there's more to the story... like that this will be used for Video, books and other media too. The advantages:

  1. Provides back-up
  2. Access anywhere
  3. Less need for large local storage.
  4. And... ??? What else?

I'm curious to see if there's a "what else" to this. Something new that others have not done.

BTW... just because a company - like a record label - makes money, and wants to protect their revenue does not make the greedy. They are in a business. An expensive business and business by design are there to make money. Technology is changing their business drastically... I see that in my field of expertise - publishing - and they're trying to figure out how they stay alive.
 
It would take so much space when everybody uploads their own library to Apple's data center(s). You'd have countless double songs on their servers, all with different sizes, bitrates etc. One single file (with backups etc.) would be more efficient. But I like to keep my own file info/cover art etc. So what will the size of our own disk be? I hope more than my iPod Shuffle…
 
How about this:

When you are born, you are given, in effect a serial number. which is yours as a human being for life.

When you buy any digital media, this is linked to our number for life.

This means for as long as you live, and whatever device you buy, you can access this media always.

So I buy and iPad and I pay for the "RIGHTS" to watch/own a movie.

I have paid my money and now that movie is mine to watch any time in the future on whatever device I buy in the future.
 
Perhaps time machine capsules could go on the cloud?


How about this:

When you are born, you are given, in effect a serial number. which is yours as a human being for life.

When you buy any digital media, this is linked to our number for life.

This means for as long as you live, and whatever device you buy, you can access this media always.

So I buy and iPad and I pay for the "RIGHTS" to watch/own a movie.

I have paid my money and now that movie is mine to watch any time in the future on whatever device I buy in the future.


They could tattoo the number on people's foreheads as a bar code.
 
I do not think that is the plan. I believe the service will allow you to download your songs as well. It just gives you the option to go to the cloud if / when needed.

Exactly how I see it. An easy way to get at your media from devices like an iPhone or iPad when you're away from your main computer... Stream it, or download and keep local.
 
How about this:

When you are born, you are given, in effect a serial number. which is yours as a human being for life.

When you buy any digital media, this is linked to our number for life.

This means for as long as you live, and whatever device you buy, you can access this media always.

So I buy and iPad and I pay for the "RIGHTS" to watch/own a movie.

I have paid my money and now that movie is mine to watch any time in the future on whatever device I buy in the future.

Wow... I want what you're drinking! :p

BTW... sort of what you described, minus the tattoo on your forehead, is called an iTunes account with a cloud service. :rolleyes:
 
go look at the pandora app. i don't see anyone complaining about that. This would essentially be the same thing except every song would be of your choice bc it's YOUR music.

Ok, I will complain. ;) I stopped using Pandora on my iPhone when AT&T began offering incentives to decrease 3G bandwidth usage (i.e. lower monthly bills).

Delivery of Pandora's stream also comes with the tradeoff of reduced fidelity and network interruptions, which I found barely acceptable for mobile application sans the bandwidth concerns above.

I also tired of the playlists that repeated with the free Pandora service and did not find it of enough value to myself personally to pay, especially if I was not guaranteed more variety of music.

That said, if you find Pandora useful, then good for you!
 
So I don't call this cloud thing a revolution, rather a gmmick at best, and ******** for my actual needs.
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I'd love to save this quote and show it to you in a couple years... I bet you'll feel differently.
 
Perhaps time machine capsules could go on the cloud?





They could tattoo the number on people's foreheads as a bar code.

Welcome to Costco.. I love you.

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How about this:

When you are born, you are given, in effect a serial number. which is yours as a human being for life.

When you buy any digital media, this is linked to our number for life.

This means for as long as you live, and whatever device you buy, you can access this media always.

So I buy and iPad and I pay for the "RIGHTS" to watch/own a movie.

I have paid my money and now that movie is mine to watch any time in the future on whatever device I buy in the future.

They do this now. Its called your Apple ID :p
 
I'd love to save this quote and show it to you in a couple years... I bet you'll feel differently.

I am sure you can find that quote used plenty of times in the past about graphical UIs and touchscreens.
 
Ok, I will complain. ;) I stopped using Pandora on my iPhone when AT&T began offering incentives to decrease 3G bandwidth usage (i.e. lower monthly bills).

Delivery of Pandora's stream also comes with the tradeoff of reduced fidelity and network interruptions, which I found barely acceptable for mobile application sans the bandwidth concerns above.

I also tired of the playlists that repeated with the free Pandora service and did not find it of enough value to myself personally to pay, especially if I was not guaranteed more variety of music.

That said, if you find Pandora useful, then good for you!

IMO, the new price structure for AT&T was not worth it to downgrade from the unlimited plan. wow, you save $5 to drop to only 2gb of data? or save $15/month and can only send a few emails a month?

we stream pandora around the house all the time and even wireless to airport expresses around the house...which u have to be connected to wifi to do that. only time use it is when going to/from work in the car so don't really use that much data on our phones with it.

if sound quality is an issue, i bet you are someone who also doesn't use appletv to watch movies bc it isn't of the highest quality?
 
Problems:

--Dependence on an internet connection. Deal breaker right there. Subways? Forget it.
--Buffer times
--Connection instability/loss
--Already way overstrained data networks contributing to the above
--Battery life will suffer if it's wifi
--And if it's 3G, well there's another bill in the mail every month. A recurring bill in the form of data charges to listen to my music I already paid for? No thank you. No, no, no thank you.

Since when did every device in the house need a monthly bill to go with it? AT&T provides a pretty crappy service as it is to begin with, why shuffle any more money right into their pockets?

Dependence on an internet connection and a bill in the mail are enormous deal breakers.

To the people saying "Oh, well Apple isn't taking your hard drive away", no, they aren't, but this is the first step. In 20 years hard drives will be obsolete, as everything will be cloud based, and you'll be forced into the cloud whether you want to be or not.

This service is a completely stupid idea for anyone who has an iPod with a big enough hard drive to store their stuff. I can see the appeal for those with more than 160 GB of music, but other than those people, I see literally zero benefits to be had by this, and a slew of problems/frustrations to be gained.
That is the problem I'm seeing too....the bandwidth. Everyone is screaming about HDDs. Hello, storage is cheap. I just see the carriers salivating at the idea of Apple wanting people to stream. I do see and understand that some people can find this new setup useful. However, a LOT of us see a major problem in terms of data charges. If Apple still gives the storage capacity in its devices as it does now, then I personally will NOT have a problem with this. I would prefer to have it stored locally. Cellular data connectivity is no where where it needs to be for me to happy with it as a replacement for local storage. Nah uh...no way. With my music, video and pictures, I have 3 running copies at any given time and this has worked out for me for many years. Why fix something that isn't broke?
 
That is the problem I'm seeing too....the bandwidth. Everyone is screaming about HDDs. Hello, storage is cheap. I just see the carriers salivating at the idea of Apple wanting people to stream. I do see and understand that some people can find this new setup useful. However, a LOT of us see a major problem in terms of data charges. If Apple still gives the storage capacity in its devices as it does now, then I personally will NOT have a problem with this. I would prefer to have it stored locally. Cellular data connectivity is no where where it needs to be for me to happy with it as a replacement for local storage. Nah uh...no way. With my music, video and pictures, I have 3 running copies at any given time and this has worked out for me for many years. Why fix something that isn't broke?

when you are at home turn on your WIFI...

why is this concept so hard to grasp?

you are a different kind of user. 3 running copies at once?? you rely way too much on physical stuff....so obviously this won't be for you.
 
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The best thing about listening to music on my iPod is I can listen to it wherever I am, such as in the car. Can't get wifi in the car, and no way am I tethering to my phone just to listen to music.
 
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The best thing about listening to music on my iPod is I can listen to it wherever I am, such as in the car. Can't get wifi in the car, and no way am I tethering to my phone just to listen to music.

why would you tether to ur phone if u have an iphone?
 
One thing that apple or the carriers need to consider is removing the data download limit. If I select to download an album from my cloud drive to my phone and it exceeds 20GB and I am on the move. I will be disappointed.
 
when you are at home turn on your WIFI...

why is this concept so hard to grasp?

you are a different kind of user. 3 running copies at once?? you rely way too much on physical stuff....so obviously this won't be for you.
Ummm, what is so hard to grasp about using stuff when NOT AT HOME???? Why is being at home the focal point for you? Why do you assume that people and myself are only going to listen to music when at home? People do it away from home too. Also, I do use WiFi at home. I still have all my music and such stored locally. I have three running copies for one reason....HDD failure. Now, HDDs are inside the space available inside my PC tower so its like they're not even there. So you're right, this wouldn't be for me. Why should I have to pay AT&T more money just because Apple may potentially shake it all up. Nah uh....no way.
 
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