They had the chance, but they laughed and called it a joke in so many ways instead of doing something of their own. Now all they do is copy and we see iphone killers one after another going down the drain. A rounding error, huh?
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They had the chance, but they laughed and called it a joke in so many ways instead of doing something of their own. Now all they do is copy and we see iphone killers one after another going down the drain. A rounding error, huh?
If you're competing in the same handheld space as Apple, chances are you've got only a fraction of Apple's mindshare. You're already starting at the bottom of the mountain. If your product is not far and away revolutionary, it will soon be forgotten.
The Pre is doing okay considering it is on Sprint. Verizon has 87.7 million U.S. customers. Sprint has 49.3 million U.S. customers. I would say based on those figures alone the Droid will be much more successful unless the Pre heads to more networks.
I type faster than I ever did on a physical phone keyboard. Even when mess ups occur the auto correct feature works pretty well.
Basically lol, now watch someone say how that comment is so elitist lol. It's the facts. If the iphone stunk or was beatable, I'm sure there would be those that would admit it, namely me. But it doesn't, it rocks.
It is my guess that boy genius did not actually get it's hands on the droid phone. Every thing they describe could be deduced and amplified by the specs that were accidently revealed by motorola before boy genius did their "review".
Yeah it will be as successful as the Blackberry Storm on Verizon! We saw how that killed the iphone!
Basically lol, now watch someone say how that comment is so elitist lol. It's the facts. If the iphone stunk or was beatable, I'm sure there would be those that would admit it, namely me. But it doesn't, it rocks.
Well there's about 85,000 reasons why the iPhone won't be disrupted anytime soon, and if Apple continues to develop the iPhone at this pace, it's likely that the competition will never really catch up. Another iPod phenomenon. But this time we don't need to see unit sales to equal success. There are a lot of dumb phones and very basic "smartphones" on the market that are cheap and available, but the iPhone's unique position as the Gold Standard of handhelds will be unassailable for a long time to come.
Unless or course the competition comes out with something as revolutionary as the iPhone was when it was relased. Judging by these halfhearted attempts we're seeing now, we'll be waiting a while.
Basically lol, now watch someone say how that comment is so elitist lol. It's the facts. If the iphone stunk or was beatable, I'm sure there would be those that would admit it, namely me. But it doesn't, it rocks.
It's not elitist. An elitist comment would be something along the lines of "lol you buy PCs because you are a cheap bastard".
He is right in a way. The iPhone shifted the paradigm of how people use cellphones. This is the so called "revolution". Technologically wise there isn't anything special in the iPhone.
Of course, we still have some people that just want a god damned device that sends texts and makes calls, but other like me want everything in their pocket.
But right now we have phones that are as capable or even have more features than the iPhone. Take a particular look at HTC phones. Those phones are effin beautiful. Vanilla WM6 sucks (god it's ****ing horrible, trust me) but HTC with just a few tweaks managed to make usable again. It's a fact, HTC phones are great.
But they are too expensive. LG phones are crap or so I've heard, but they look nice. Sony Ericcsson was the phone for the masses from 2000 to 2007 (until the iPhone came in). Nowadays there is nothing new in their phones. I absolutely hated Motorola's OS (whatever it was called, but it came in every freaking phone they had). WM sucks unless you tweak and make it your own. It's a hell of a hobbyist OS (cooked roms, etc).
The iPhone is the phone that suits better for the average user out there, that's why everyone loves it. Just enough proof that usability (ease of use) is heavier than specs and looks.
I really wish I could try a Pre. No idea how WebOS is like. And now, I just want to give this Android baby a ride.
edit: Oh I forgot. The Nokia N900, this is what I want right now. Debian on my ****ing phone!!?? GET OUT OF HERE!!
Funny thing is when Apple introduced the iphone, you never heard anyone from them or the media spewing crap like Blackberry killers, or Nokia killers. Apple never marketed the phone as that. All they did was talk about the iphone, they didn't mention any other phone. This is part of the reason the iphone stood apart. If they had marketed it a blackberry killer it would have failed. Seems a lot of these companies don't learn.
One key fact you people are forgetting. Droid doesn't have to kill the iPhone, Droid is just one of many Android devices and Android will take more marketshare. It's not about having one killer phone, it's about having multiple choices with Android to fit you. Unlike Apple where the attitude is "If you don't fit our attitude or like our meager choices, go to hell.. nerd!" there is real choice with Android.
It's funny how close your posts are to the attitude Apple had during the early PC wars. Apple innovated, revolutionized, so it's their market. People think that Apple owns the market but the best selling smartphone from what I read was the Blackberry Curve, so I guess because that sold more it's a better phone!
It's funny that people continue to bring up the Pre, Storm, and all the other competitors. Here is the thing, they didn't beat the iPhone in specs and abilities, the Droid does in almost everything but apps (and as I said, as Android takes over the marketshare that will change IMO).
It's funny how close your posts are to the attitude Apple had during the early PC wars. Apple innovated, revolutionized, so it's their market. People think that Apple owns the market but the best selling smartphone from what I read was the Blackberry Curve, so I guess because that sold more it's a better phone!
It's funny that people continue to bring up the Pre, Storm, and all the other competitors. Here is the thing, they didn't beat the iPhone in specs and abilities, the Droid does in almost everything but apps (and as I said, as Android takes over the marketshare that will change IMO).
Yeah we've seen how having your software on multiple devices has worked for Windows Mobile!
From the look of things from XDA-developers apparently well, as it seems like half the people there are developers of some sort and they don't have much trouble making their software for the main resolutions(even their widescreen variants) out there. Then again many of the development going on there are aimed towards a specific device to keep things simple. Heck, people are even given them donations for their work.
This could a better than the Droid and its also coming to Verizon. It looks like they are trying to step up the phones they have, and carrying phones other don't have(like the WM powered Omnia II). http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/htc-dragon-coming-to-verizon-as-the-passion/
Even if you space the keys out by 10% it might throw some one off for a little while during the adjustment but it does not take long adjust.
The biggest problem with touchscreen is you can not tell with out looking if you are inbetween 2 keys. No amount of practice solves that problem. It is physically impossible to be able to tell if you are inbetween 2 keys with out looking.
On my itouch I can type notes fairly well but still make a hell of a lot more errors than I do on any of the physical QWERTY phones out there. Across 4 different phones I make fewer errors than I make on the touch.
people text faster on the physical keyboard phones over a touch with fewer errors.
LOL that is the best argument you have....
We have already seen the android takes away many of the advantages the iPhone had over lets say windows mobile.
On thing that will prevent me from getting the iPhone is the lack of a physical keyboard and the completely lack of multitasking, which fan boys defense for is almost as laughable as when the iPhone lacked MMS.
Fixed that for ya!
Ah can not handle the truth can you. People type on average faster on physical keyboards over touch screen. No way around that. On a physical keyboard you can type by feel because you know when your finger is inbetween 2 keys. Can not do that on a touch screen. Or tell me how you know somthing was pressed with out the sound on the iPhone. Take away that click sound you would not know if a letter was not registered but on a physical keyboard you can tell that information by feel.
LOL
Windows Mobile is awful, but it has nothing to do with it being on multiple devices it has more to do with it being an OS that Microsoft let stagnant for years releasing one joke of an update after another, as soon as the iPhone came out and styluses basically became obsolete they were years behind and they still haven't played catchup. Nevermind that their OS is slow, and features a pretty awful webbrowser.
Android on the other hand is built after the iPhone era and doesn't have the problems that hamper WinMo, it's built ground up for these new devices and finger UI.
People always forget Apple is a moving target. In seven or eight months a new iphone will be out again.
A moving target with negligible (hardware) updates. Apple knows it too, which is why the campaign is software-oriented, "there's an app for that".
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I am in awe in some of the logic in this thread. Comparing the sales performance of the the prè with the yet unreleased Motorola Droid and now Android OS to Windows mobile.
What else is going to be spun in this web of fud?
Physical vs on screen keyboards are also a personal preference but to dismiss them as useless is stupid.
I use a Panasonic CF-U1 umpc at work and after using it a few days I was completely competant and at home with writing on those tiny keys without the need to look at the screen.
I wouldn't be able to do that if it was touchscreen only
I am in awe in some of the logic in this thread. Comparing the sales performance of the the prè with the yet unreleased Motorola Droid and now Android OS to Windows mobile.
What else is going to be spun in this web of fud?
Physical vs on screen keyboards are also a personal preference but to dismiss them as useless is stupid.
I use a Panasonic CF-U1 umpc at work and after using it a few days I was completely competant and at home with writing on those tiny keys without the need to look at the screen.
I wouldn't be able to do that if it was touchscreen only
They all look pretty much the same, but the major revisions included some pretty substantial hardware improvements.
iPhone 3G added both 3G and GPS, along with A-GPS and Tri band UMTS/HSDPA 850, 1900, 2100 MHz.
iPhone 3Gs added compass, 3MP video camera with autofocus (etc.), BlueTooth 2.1, faster processor, 256 MB DRAM, and 7.2 Mbps HSDPA. And a 32 GB model.
Other than FM radio and physical keyboard, the 3GS is already packed with everything (reasonable) under the sun.
Unless your OS is 90% of the way there to being as good as the iPhone's, but being on 10 times the amount of devices, while being on networks far superior to AT&T.
See where I'm going with that?
I'd love an iPhone, but not on AT&T. They sucked before the iPhone, and they suck now.
Android doesn't have to be better than the iPhone to succeed. It has to be better than RIM and WinMo while having the same spread of devices/networks.