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More Details on Next-Generation iPhone? 3G Netbook Due This Summer?
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Nah .....
A subsidized $99 netbook is completely possible. By contrast, why would people pay $999 for an Apple branded netbook under some 2 year AT&T contract, when a full-blown Macbook is around that price with NO subsidies?
Netbooks are supposed to cost LESS than standard notebooks.
But I highly doubt any $99 netbook is going to come with OS X or an Apple logo on it. I've read other rumors about AT&T considering 3g capable, subsidized netbooks -- but it was in reference to Linux-based systems.
I think people are getting things mixed up, reading this random list of rumored AT&T partnerships that includes so much iPhone-related stuff, and assuming it ALL relates to Apple.
A subsidized $99 netbook is completely possible. By contrast, why would people pay $999 for an Apple branded netbook under some 2 year AT&T contract, when a full-blown Macbook is around that price with NO subsidies?
Netbooks are supposed to cost LESS than standard notebooks.
But I highly doubt any $99 netbook is going to come with OS X or an Apple logo on it. I've read other rumors about AT&T considering 3g capable, subsidized netbooks -- but it was in reference to Linux-based systems.
I think people are getting things mixed up, reading this random list of rumored AT&T partnerships that includes so much iPhone-related stuff, and assuming it ALL relates to Apple.
Yep, these were great...you just fail to remember how many appliances and PCs were released right after the iMac and the iBook in the market, in the same color schemes...
And fortunately, they're all in landfills by now...
There was a lot of bad taste in those days...
That's the problem...a 3G netbook doesn't make sense if you're gonna use it as a small laptop (just as pretty much everyone else buying crappy netbooks)...a netbook is NOT a phone, and definitely not worth having a contract with a carrier...unless, of course, you define a netbook as an iPhone Plus...
Having a netbook that isn't always connected to the net is what doesn't make sense. WiFi doesn't cut it - coverage is too spotty, too few open and free hot spots, too many odd login issues even with free ones.
We buy all of our laptops with 3G cards - except for the people who want Apples, they need to carry around fugly USB modem dongles.
I'm amazed that Apple is so far behind the times with 3G support on laptops and (soon) netbooks.
Apple's being so far behind is probably due to the fact that the U.S. is so far behind much of the world in regards to pricing and availability of its "broadband" wired and wireless access. Network infrastructure in the U.S. sucks... and most of our elected "idiots in charge" in D.C. are far too out of touch with the real world to understand the need for it.
I find it very humorous to read the comments by forum 'folks' who voice an opinion about such things, like "Apple already has a netbook ... it's the Air," or "Apple already has a netbook ... it's the iPhone," or "Apple would never sell a $99 netbook."
The computer market has many applications, far more than any one person could fathom. And to believe that there are no other applications for a netbook beyond one's personal use, possibly fulfilled through an Air or iPhone, is extremely short-sighted. Thankfully Apple R&D doesn't carry that short-sightedness as many of the products that Apple devotees heap nothing short of jubilant praise onto might not have existed in the first place.
Is a subsidized $99 netbook possible? Why not?
The key word that is overlooked by the naysayers is "subsidized". How much is an un-subsidized iPhone? How much are other-branded netbooks running these days? Notice a similarity?
As for design, it's been equally entertaining reading the posts of 'experts' who believe that a touch-screen keyboard (like the iPhone) or an Air is more then sufficient for a netbook. Yet I would safely gamble that none of these 'experts' have utilized a netbook for it's intended purpose.
But I think it's safe to say the days of a mouse (or even a touchpad) are coming to close.
This 'mockup' being distributed through various online channels seems very ... intriguing. Taking the existing form-factor of the ultra-thin wired and wireless keyboard and utilizing the contracted touchscreens ... Has anyone bothered to measure the dimensions of these keyboards? Hmmm....
Very intriguing, I would say.
-X99
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The computer market has many applications, far more than any one person could fathom. And to believe that there are no other applications for a netbook beyond one's personal use, possibly fulfilled through an Air or iPhone, is extremely short-sighted. Thankfully Apple R&D doesn't carry that short-sightedness as many of the products that Apple devotees heap nothing short of jubilant praise onto might not have existed in the first place.
Is a subsidized $99 netbook possible? Why not?
The key word that is overlooked by the naysayers is "subsidized". How much is an un-subsidized iPhone? How much are other-branded netbooks running these days? Notice a similarity?
As for design, it's been equally entertaining reading the posts of 'experts' who believe that a touch-screen keyboard (like the iPhone) or an Air is more then sufficient for a netbook. Yet I would safely gamble that none of these 'experts' have utilized a netbook for it's intended purpose.
But I think it's safe to say the days of a mouse (or even a touchpad) are coming to close.
This 'mockup' being distributed through various online channels seems very ... intriguing. Taking the existing form-factor of the ultra-thin wired and wireless keyboard and utilizing the contracted touchscreens ... Has anyone bothered to measure the dimensions of these keyboards? Hmmm....
Very intriguing, I would say.
-X99
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Exactly. Aiden Shaw's usual diatribes against Apple, together with his ignorance of anything that happens outside the U.S., is what turns such statements into little more than glib BS.
Nobody I know in Europe or Latin America needs 3G connection or buys such stupid cards for their computers, NETBOOKS included. Most make do with ubiquitous Wi-Fi connection in offices, conference rooms and hotels. If you don't have that, you're not supposed to connect; you're on vacation. And I am glad, of course, that Apple doesn't cram this close-to-useless technology in its notebooks. Hopefully, it won't either for the fabled $99 "netbook".
Somewhat valid, but if you look at the "configure" menus on other laptops you see:
Dell:
Mobile Broadband
Select options below
Verizon Wireless built-in mobile broadband (EV-DO Rev A) with GPS [add $125]
Sprint built-in mobile broadband (EV-DO Rev A) with GPS [add $125]
AT&T built-in mobile broadband (HSDPA) with GPS [add $125]
Select options below
Verizon Wireless built-in mobile broadband (EV-DO Rev A) with GPS [add $125]
Sprint built-in mobile broadband (EV-DO Rev A) with GPS [add $125]
AT&T built-in mobile broadband (HSDPA) with GPS [add $125]
HP:
HP Mobile Broadband
- HP Mobile Broadband (powered by Gobi) requires selection of of one the Service provider applets in the Broadband Service Provider category below.
[$125.00] HP Mobile Broadband (powered by Gobi)
Broadband Service Provider
Universal Mobile Broadband Wireless Card requires the selection of one of the following Service Provider registration-software applet
- HP Mobile Broadband (powered by Gobi) requires selection of of one the Service provider applets in the Broadband Service Provider category below.
[$125.00] HP Mobile Broadband (powered by Gobi)
Broadband Service Provider
Universal Mobile Broadband Wireless Card requires the selection of one of the following Service Provider registration-software applet
Lenovo:
Mobile Broadband
Integrated Mobile Broadband upgradable [subtract $30.00]
Integrated AT&T Mobile Broadband Card (3G)
Two great offers on AT&T Mobile Broadband
1. AT&T Mobile Broadband only $30 ($80 - $50 instant savings).
2. Get 30 days free DataConnect service from AT&T. Subject to approval and additional terms & conditions.
Learn more about 30 days of free DataConnect service
Integrated Verizon Wireless Mobile Broadband Card (3G) [add $120.00]
Integrated Mobile Broadband upgradable [subtract $30.00]
Integrated AT&T Mobile Broadband Card (3G)
Two great offers on AT&T Mobile Broadband
1. AT&T Mobile Broadband only $30 ($80 - $50 instant savings).
2. Get 30 days free DataConnect service from AT&T. Subject to approval and additional terms & conditions.
Learn more about 30 days of free DataConnect service
Integrated Verizon Wireless Mobile Broadband Card (3G) [add $120.00]
Apple:
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Where's the innovator? The other companies are seeing the demand and filling it. In spite of the problems, people want 3G built into their laptops - not an ugly dongle.
So, your argument is that Apple should be an LCD (least common denominator) vendor? If something isn't necessary in geography X - don't sell it anywhere else even if it is desired and it is useful?
And, it appears that Gartner shares my ignorance:
Thank you "IGNATIUS THE KING" for so eloquently demonstrating to everyone what I meant by short-sighted 'experts'.
To help explain this to you, when a product is subsidized, that means that the vendor (Apple) isn't the sole sales stream. In this case, Apple isn't selling their netbook for $99 to the public, as AT&T would be selling it, with a considerable consumer contract to more than compensate the price that AT&T would be 'purchasing' the netbook from Apple — a price the general public would balk. THAT, my expert friend, is the ROI (Return On Investment) dream for subsidized sales.
-X99
Thank, you, "X 99" for correcting us with your own expert opinion. I was so confused about my place in the world until you came along and set everything right with your infinite intelligence and wit.
As for the (little) content you actually posted, how do you explain the fact that A&T subsidizes the iPhone to the tune of hundreds of dollars (more than half the cost, in fact), yet somehow it still costs consumers $200-$300?
Perhaps because Apple is not, as Steve Jobs has repeatedly stated, in the cheap computer market?
Thanks and enjoy.
Here's an idea
OK here's a fun thought; they're working out tethering and apple already filed for a patent for a device that allows something with a processor to be plugged into another device. Maybe they intend for a iPhone to be plugged into the netbook to give it "life"; of course, we'd have to pay for a tethering plan........ Just a fun thought......
OK here's a fun thought; they're working out tethering and apple already filed for a patent for a device that allows something with a processor to be plugged into another device. Maybe they intend for a iPhone to be plugged into the netbook to give it "life"; of course, we'd have to pay for a tethering plan........ Just a fun thought......
I'm in the uk and I can 'buy' an iphone for free. The same as I can buy a ps3, xbox, netbook, laptop, gadget X for free.
All I have to do is sign up to a contract that has a minimum term that's twice as long and five times the price of a 'normal' voice/data contract (with a subsidised[!] phone).
I'm curious.. being that I live in Switzerland and am a current 3G owner who would love nothing more than a brand new, shiny iPhone with all new features released this summer.. what are the chances that the new device will be launched internationally as well as in the US, IF a new iPhone were to be announced this summer?
I know it's impossible to answer this question accurately, but someone here must be able to come up with a better guess than myself..
I know it's impossible to answer this question accurately, but someone here must be able to come up with a better guess than myself..
I'm ready for new a new phone, still using the first gen-iPhone and I would upgrade only if video capture is a feature of the new iPhone, otherwise, I'm really forced to switch to some other phone that provides good video capture with the ability to email directly from phone. Come On Apple, do this for all of us.
New software for Mac that allows install all apps without jailbreaking
InstallerApp: All Apps for iPhone without jailbreaking
Hey just found this on the web is a new software for Mac that allows you to install the applications that are not in the App Store without have to jailbreak the device. You can even install Cydiae Installer without jailbreaking....This is the link:
http://applediario.com/2009/03/24/i...ra-tu-iphone-y-sin-tener-que-hacer-jailbreak/
InstallerApp: All Apps for iPhone without jailbreaking
Hey just found this on the web is a new software for Mac that allows you to install the applications that are not in the App Store without have to jailbreak the device. You can even install Cydiae Installer without jailbreaking....This is the link:
http://applediario.com/2009/03/24/i...ra-tu-iphone-y-sin-tener-que-hacer-jailbreak/
Keyboard??
I just want to know if 3.0 will let me use a BT or wired keyboard...?
Until then, these things are really just toys, to me.
Would love top open up a fold-up keyboard and take meeting notes, work on my latest research report, etc.
Especially if I can cut-and-paste out of PDFs and other docs.
Keyboards?
I just want to know if 3.0 will let me use a BT or wired keyboard...?
Until then, these things are really just toys, to me.
Would love top open up a fold-up keyboard and take meeting notes, work on my latest research report, etc.
Especially if I can cut-and-paste out of PDFs and other docs.
Keyboards?
99$ per month... its a 2 year contract
99$ is the monthly fee for the netbook.
You get a netbook and a 2 year contract. The netbook comes with a built in cell phone so your on the internet everywhere you go. Internet 3G via ATT!!!
This is how apple is going to tie you into a 99$ x 24 month contact....
through a netbook
99$ is the monthly fee for the netbook.
You get a netbook and a 2 year contract. The netbook comes with a built in cell phone so your on the internet everywhere you go. Internet 3G via ATT!!!
This is how apple is going to tie you into a 99$ x 24 month contact....
through a netbook
Exactly
I can see a cheap netbook with Linux or something. Heck, it might even be worth the money.
I can see a cheap netbook with Linux or something. Heck, it might even be worth the money.