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He amount of hype and drama has been enormous! You're just reading the wrong forum.

No no, I know all there is to know. Hmm...way to many "no's" there. :D

Anyway, I mean publicly. There's not even any mention of FCPX anywhere on Apple's website. Sure have enough coverage of IOS5 and Lion which aren't out yet, but nothing about FCPX.

Sure, you and I may know what "Supermeet" and NAB are, but if you didn't belong to some message board that covers this stuff, you'd never even know FCPX was even coming out.
 
Ugh, another App Store only thing. I'd love to get my sweaty little palms on this in the Apple store but I guess I'll have to spend all night downloading this.

Luckily this doesn't require Lion.
 
I am very excited for this as well, but I also want a LOT more details to know this will still meet all my professional needs! For example, I still haven't seen any sign of a preview monitor or dual screen support. I'm not even sure how dual screens are going to work with Lion anyway! :(
 
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I'd like to start getting into video editing (personal stuff - family/friends kind of thing), is Final Cut Pro overkill? Is it hard to pick up on? Any other programs that I should look into? Thanks :)
 
Anyway, I mean publicly. There's not even any mention of FCPX anywhere on Apple's website. Sure have enough coverage of IOS5 and Lion which aren't out yet, but nothing about FCPX.

That's not generally how Apple works, especially with pro apps. Look at Logic, for example. Every time there is a new release it just pops up on their website. One day it's Logic 8, the next it's Logic 9. No real warning.

The NAB coverage was only for video editors, and Apple didn't really intend for it to go much further than that.
 
I'd like to start getting into video editing (personal stuff - family/friends kind of thing), is Final Cut Pro overkill? Is it hard to pick up on? Any other programs that I should look into? Thanks :)

Before FCP X, I would have said that it is DEFINITELY overkill, because it was so difficult to learn, but now not only will you no longer have the option for Final Cut Express, the new FCP X is basically the price that express used to be.

So no, I don't think it's overkill. Your two choices now are iMovie and Final Cut Pro X. Unless you can do all you want to do in iMovie, your next step should be FCP X.

All indications are that FCP X is going to be much easier to learn and easier to use, especially for those used to iMovie, as a lot of the new features revolve around things that iMovie has been doing for years.
 
Before FCP X, I would have said that it is DEFINITELY overkill, because it was so difficult to learn, but now not only will you no longer have the option for Final Cut Express, the new FCP X is basically the price that express used to be.

So no, I don't think it's overkill. Your two choices now are iMovie and Final Cut Pro X. Unless you can do all you want to do in iMovie, your next step should be FCP X.

All indications are that FCP X is going to be much easier to learn and easier to use, especially for those used to iMovie, as a lot of the new features revolve around things that iMovie has been doing for years.

I never thought FCP was hard to learn, and there are intuitive things Final Cut that are a pain or impossible in iMovie.
 
Online distribution is fine for the price but hopefully a retail package that includes a manual and training books will also be offered. It is important to have training books at launch because even those of us who use Final Cut Pro will be starting from scratch.
 
Online distribution is fine for the price but hopefully a retail package that includes a manual and training books will also be offered. It is important to have training books at launch because even those of us who use Final Cut Pro will be starting from scratch.

Why can't you just buy it online at the App Store and buy the manuals somewhere else, like Amazon? If people are buying Final Cut Pro X, I imagine they would know if they needed a manual.
 
That's not generally how Apple works, especially with pro apps. Look at Logic, for example. Every time there is a new release it just pops up on their website. One day it's Logic 8, the next it's Logic 9. No real warning.

The NAB coverage was only for video editors, and Apple didn't really intend for it to go much further than that.

As well, in this case the obvious reason is that announcing it on their site would completely cannibalize sales of FCP studio, classes, training books, etc. And there's no actual real proof or hard core promise it will be released in June anyway. Apple has let it be known that a new, cool version is coming for the sole purpose of keeping users from switching to premiere or avid. They left a lot of questions. Enough that if you need FCP, you buy it now.
 
Completely useless info. We have already seen this stuff demoed and recently shots of Motion. If you're gonna leak some photos, leak some that answer some questions- not a zillion shots of the color correction we already know about. Let's see the batch capture window. Let's see a viewer window instead of a film strip. Let's see examples of 3 point editing. Show us the new multicam interface. Some use of Plugins. Print to tape. Anything.

How about some cheese with that whine..
 
I'm surprised everyone is so excited about this. I definitely feel that Final Cut Pro is in need of some serious enhancements, but I think the current interface is great! I know it like the back of my hand. Now I'm going to have to relearn the software from the ground up?
 
Why can't you just buy it online at the App Store and buy the manuals somewhere else, like Amazon? If people are buying Final Cut Pro X, I imagine they would know if they needed a manual.

It's new software, not an update. Everyone will need the manual. I am sure training manuals will be out with it but an official one that comes in the box would be the most up to date. At the end of the day it is not a deal breaker, just a matter of value and convenience.
 
I wonder what the suite will look like.

Or will Apple break the suite apart? I mean, many don't really need LiveType, Motion, or the professional DVD authoring software.
 
It's new software, not an update. Everyone will need the manual. I am sure training manuals will be out with it but an official one that comes in the box would be the most up to date. At the end of the day it is not a deal breaker, just a matter of value and convenience.

I highly doubt there will be print manuals available from Apple.
 
It's new software, not an update. Everyone will need the manual. I am sure training manuals will be out with it but an official one that comes in the box would be the most up to date. At the end of the day it is not a deal breaker, just a matter of value and convenience.


What they should do is, bundle a manual in the download.
 
Online distribution is fine for the price but hopefully a retail package that includes a manual and training books will also be offered. It is important to have training books at launch because even those of us who use Final Cut Pro will be starting from scratch.
Apple already got rid of printed manuals for their Pro Apps a few years ago. They are all in PDF form now.


As well, in this case the obvious reason is that announcing it on their site would completely cannibalize sales of FCP studio, classes, training books, etc. And there's no actual real proof or hard core promise it will be released in June anyway. Apple has let it be known that a new, cool version is coming for the sole purpose of keeping users from switching to premiere or avid. They left a lot of questions. Enough that if you need FCP, you buy it now.
At least w/Final Cut that's not typically the case. Usually Apple will preview at NAB and release a couple of months later. I believe Apple officially said at the sneak peak in April that it's coming in June.


Lethal
 
Apple may not like the idea of watching Blu-ray on a Mac, but I can't understand how they can overlook the fact that the professionals out there still need to be able to make them.
Supporting it in any fashion gives it validation as a format, and it's pretty clear that SJ is just too much of a stick in the mud about the issue. This comes down entirely to business and the competition of the format with iTunes, so unfortunately I don't see Apple's tune changing. I'm in the same boat that you are, sadly. Now that the price of Blu-ray players are plummeting demand is going way up, so it's incredibly frustrating that Apple is just dragging their feet on this.
 
I feel like this has to be lion only, so they will wait till july to release
 
New MacPro please! New MacPro!

having decided that a MacPro is a better option for my use I await the refresh because stacked against an SB iMac its hard to justify more cash for something that offer only minimal performance increase and Ive heard in some cases slower. Come on Steve you know it makes sense!
 
Before FCP X, I would have said that it is DEFINITELY overkill, because it was so difficult to learn, but now not only will you no longer have the option for Final Cut Express, the new FCP X is basically the price that express used to be.

So no, I don't think it's overkill. Your two choices now are iMovie and Final Cut Pro X. Unless you can do all you want to do in iMovie, your next step should be FCP X.

All indications are that FCP X is going to be much easier to learn and easier to use, especially for those used to iMovie, as a lot of the new features revolve around things that iMovie has been doing for years.

I dont know, I used FCP on the Mac Pro's running Tiger, and found it very easy to use. Most of it just made sense. Tried using Adobe Premier CS5 recently. Could not figure it out at all.
 
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