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More Google iPhone Apps on the Way

respin4 said:
How is Google making money from the iPhone/AppleTV deals? Google has certainly invested some good amount of resources into this. How does it make business sense from their side. Is Apple actually paying Google "per hit" o to license the use of Google's services? Is it more intangible like a "cool" factor gain or to widespread the use of Google beyond de computer?

Is Google+Apple the new Microsoft+IBM?
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Well how is Google making money from their online apps? They simply are porting some existing apps for iPhone so far. Who knows what's to come though?

It's beneficial for both Google and Apple to work together to unseat Microsoft. Google has everything to gain if iPhone takes off and it only has Google office programs on it. That will take a huge chunk off MS office since they are programs and not online apps.

If online apps takes off, it will only hurt MS.
 
mikeinternet said:
i love google docs.
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They're a great concept and perfect for small documents, but suck with heavy lifting. How do you embed a spreadsheet document in Google docs and have it update as you update the spreadsheet without having to copy paste.. Auto updating would be huge.
 
google gearsanyone?

it would bridge the web 2.0/local app divide by allowing local storage and offline usage. i still think we'll see a full SDK withing 12 months, but in the meantime gears (when it's out of beta) should make it less painful for "real" developers.
 
Google Gears, anyone?

Steve Jobs says that the only way to develop apps for the iPhone is as a web application. Bummer, because this requires an always-on connection to use it.

Google has a product called Google Gears which allows a webapp to be "installed" and run on your local computer even when the computer is disconnected.

I guarantee Google is working on a version of Google Gears for the iPhone. Why doesn't anyone else see this coming?

edit: Heh, dashiel just beat me to it with the post above.
 
I would pay $1,000 for an iPhone with dedicated Google Reader and Gmail clients that used Gears for offline access.
 
TenaciousPZ said:
Maybe I'm a little out of the loop on this, but could you shed some light, maybe 2 sentences, on why I or anyone would want GPS on a phone.
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Reason #1 of one million: When you're on the road and lost, with GPS, you'd be able to quickly see where you are on a map. Seriously cool.
 
The reasons I would want GPS on the phone.

1. Geotagging pictures taken with the iphone
2. Navigating around new cities/area. Finding points of interest from my current location without having to carry around yet another gadget.
3. Nifty new features like with helio where I can allow buddies to see exactly where I am, and see where they are. Much easier to plan get togethers.
 
gregdig said:
Reason #1 of one million: When you're on the road and lost, with GPS, you'd be able to quickly see where you are on a map. Seriously cool.
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Or just walking around in a foreign city. Just let your iPhone direct you to where you want to go. Yes we need GPS!
 
Omg!!!!

I just noticed the Google docs and spreadsheets!! THAT'S GENIOUS!!!! :eek: Now I can finally work away from my comp. I didn't know, seriously... Now I'm really, really realy, looking forward to what Apple and Google have up their sleeves! Very exciting!
 
gregdig said:
Reason #1 of one million: When you're on the road and lost, with GPS, you'd be able to quickly see where you are on a map. Seriously cool.
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But that is already a top 3 reason why I want the iPhone now, the way it is. Directions, Traffic, and Google Maps.

I'm a mobile DJ and directions are a constant issue for me. I've not wanted to spend the money on a navigation system for the car, but the iPhone is everything AND provides with a way to refine my directions in the car, or at the very least check a real time map.

That is significantly better than 1 sheet of printed paper with my directions which, when they are wrong, can't be refinded.

With iPhone's current built in technology, I can find my way. Why would anyone NEED gps so badly. This will certainly do, for the price. A standalone GPS is another 500 dollars. Keep that in mind when you buy your iPhone w/ Google Maps that is ONLY 500 dollars.
 
fastdrive said:
The reasons I would want GPS on the phone.

1. Geotagging pictures taken with the iphone
2. Navigating around new cities/area. Finding points of interest from my current location without having to carry around yet another gadget.
3. Nifty new features like with helio where I can allow buddies to see exactly where I am, and see where they are. Much easier to plan get togethers.
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And you reasonably expect all of this (on top of what iPhone already is) at the current price tag?
 
Please let there be Google Street View and Gmail apps for the iPhone - that would be awesome! :D
 
mickeymikey said:
Exactly!

Plush, I'd like to see Google take over the back-end of .Mac.
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No doubt. I'm thinking picasa-iphoto-iphone union, gmail on iphone, acessing the same visual voicemail box online with my apple ID, ringing of other phones ala GrandCentral (my work bans cellphones), and of course GPS on Google Maps.

And maybe in rev. 3 - google earth on iphone? :)
 
TenaciousPZ said:
But that is already a top 3 reason why I want the iPhone now, the way it is. Directions, Traffic, and Google Maps.

I'm a mobile DJ and directions are a constant issue for me. I've not wanted to spend the money on a navigation system for the car, but the iPhone is everything AND provides with a way to refine my directions in the car, or at the very least check a real time map.

That is significantly better than 1 sheet of printed paper with my directions which, when they are wrong, can't be refinded.

With iPhone's current built in technology, I can find my way. Why would anyone NEED gps so badly. This will certainly do, for the price. A standalone GPS is another 500 dollars. Keep that in mind when you buy your iPhone w/ Google Maps that is ONLY 500 dollars.
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The draw of GPS isn't so much "knowing where you are" - it's being able to do things with where you are. It's not hard to figure out where you are, unless you're far from city streets.

Having GPS capability would be good because then all kinds of software applications will be able to take advantage of it. You'll be able to ask for nearby coffee shops without having to TELL the phone where you are. Social networks will do cool things by combining where you are and where your friends are. Pictures and text messages can be automatically geotagged. The vacation route you took (vs the one you planned) can be posted to your blog. This would all be a pain if the phone didn't just have that information ready.
 
The thing with the GPS..

It's all about update-speed of the location.. if you just occasionally need to know where you are (to find - for instance - a nearby coffeeshop) you can perfectly use triangulation of the GSM-antennae (at least in europe that service has been around for years.. tie that in with googlemaps and you've got quite a nice goodie).

If you want to use it as a navigator (think TomTom), triangulation will probably not have a high enough refreshrate. And too: GPS navigation requires constant calculations to see if you're still on the right track and recalculate the entire route if you deviate too much.. that would be too big of a strain on the battery to be useful imho.

Btw.. gps-enabling: ever heard of bluetooth-gps modules? It may just be a Software-Update away :p
 
TenaciousPZ said:
But that is already a top 3 reason why I want the iPhone now, the way it is. Directions, Traffic, and Google Maps.

I'm a mobile DJ and directions are a constant issue for me. I've not wanted to spend the money on a navigation system for the car, but the iPhone is everything AND provides with a way to refine my directions in the car, or at the very least check a real time map.

That is significantly better than 1 sheet of printed paper with my directions which, when they are wrong, can't be refinded.

With iPhone's current built in technology, I can find my way. Why would anyone NEED gps so badly. This will certainly do, for the price. A standalone GPS is another 500 dollars. Keep that in mind when you buy your iPhone w/ Google Maps that is ONLY 500 dollars.
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A GPS chip is about $30 today. On top of that you need the software. The rest is already included in the phone.
The difference between Google maps and Google maps with GPS is HUGE. GPS tells you where you are and how to get from where you are to where you want to go. Add a good software and you basically have a guide with you where ever you go. Imagine never being clueless how to get there. With just a map it is easy to get lost. Try to navigate with a map in big city with ramps every quarter of mile. Add a construction site in the middle of it that forces you to take a detour. NOW try to get where you want with a map alone. ;)
 
ISMPlus said:
I just noticed the Google docs and spreadsheets!! THAT'S GENIOUS!!!! :eek: Now I can finally work away from my comp. I didn't know, seriously... Now I'm really, really realy, looking forward to what Apple and Google have up their sleeves! Very exciting!
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Not concerned about the security of your work?
Not concerned with Google ending up indexing your information?
 
TenaciousPZ said:
And you reasonably expect all of this (on top of what iPhone already is) at the current price tag?
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Yes? #2 and #3 could be handled by google maps, so the only additional cost is the gps receiver and some basic software to embed gps data in pictures, and have it available to google maps.
 
EagerDragon said:
Not concerned about the security of your work?
Not concerned with Google ending up indexing your information?
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Not any more than when I give all my personal info to my online banking account institution... and buy stuff online all the time.... ;)

fhqwhgads said:
well, you know what they say..."security is a state of mind. nothing can ever be fully secured and be functional."

:)
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I'm confused... :confused: oh, ok... :D
 
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