way too expensive to justify spending on a phone. i don't care if it's made by apple.. that's crazy much. hopefully cingular will offer a steep discount...
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More iPhone Details - $599 4GB and $649 8GB? [Updated]
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This has to be the prices for the phones without contract. If so it's not that bad, if that's not the case then Apple will have a rough season ahead.
For no-contract phones the price isn't that bad. For example on ebay the Nokia 8800 is varying in price from 500 to $800 canadian. The N93 easily hits the $800 dollar mark. The lowest N93 "buy it now" is $817 with the highest being $913.
So even $649 would seem reasonable when comparing them to other high end , no-contract, phones.
For no-contract phones the price isn't that bad. For example on ebay the Nokia 8800 is varying in price from 500 to $800 canadian. The N93 easily hits the $800 dollar mark. The lowest N93 "buy it now" is $817 with the highest being $913.
So even $649 would seem reasonable when comparing them to other high end , no-contract, phones.
...or yen!
Really though... why would there only be a $50 difference between the 4GB and 8GB? That seems that if they were going to gouge $599 for a 4GB PhonePod, they would surely gouge at least an additional $100 for double the capacity...
I give this one a 1/10.
-Clive
Considering Apple caters to the prosumer/consumer, and not the enterprise market I hope the phone is a consumer/prosumer phone too, and not a big bad thing.
However, after sticker shock is wearing off, I can see this... Apple needs something to push their products back into the elitest category. Even their higher prices of the MB and MBP aren't working anymore, and if they're not careful they run the risk of becoming just as popular as Dell, and not just a "think Different" company.
This better be one hell of a phone if they expect it to sell for $600.
Wouldnt you think that since apple is getting away from the "i" nomenclature, they would call it a Macphone or something! Also I wounder if this will incorprate any pda "LIKE" fetures and when we can expect to see it?
the iPhone defiantly will not at that price point, well at least I hope!!!! the other specs seem pretty cool though, unfortunately I don't see this rumor as very accurate at all.....
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US$600 is steep but makes sense. High end phones from Nokia, SonyEricsson, Samsung, etc.. with music player and no hard drive cost that kind of money, or even more if you count PDA-turned-into-phones like the HTC and the iPaq...
IMHO this makes sense because bundling iPod with a phone cannot possibly convey a message to the market like "the music bit on this phone comes bundled for free"... who would ever buy a new iPod if that were true? people who cannot have phones with them while listening to music? No, that's too limited. iPod and iPhone must be priced in a way that they don't kill each other.
At this price range, it becomes clearer that iPhone is most likely a smartphone. if it were just a music player with phone it would cost twice as much as a Nokia 5300...
Personally I was hoping for a plain phone with music player and iSync for contacts and calendar, at about EUR200. I'll just wait and see if this rumour is right, I'm sure there will be plenty more
IMHO this makes sense because bundling iPod with a phone cannot possibly convey a message to the market like "the music bit on this phone comes bundled for free"... who would ever buy a new iPod if that were true? people who cannot have phones with them while listening to music? No, that's too limited. iPod and iPhone must be priced in a way that they don't kill each other.
At this price range, it becomes clearer that iPhone is most likely a smartphone. if it were just a music player with phone it would cost twice as much as a Nokia 5300...
Personally I was hoping for a plain phone with music player and iSync for contacts and calendar, at about EUR200. I'll just wait and see if this rumour is right, I'm sure there will be plenty more
prices don't make sense
maybe she got the specs right, but i think she's off on the prices. there's only a $50 difference between the two models?! for double the amount of GB!!? that just does not make sense.
the prices are also high, even considering that carriers will likely offer discounts with service plans. apple must know that people will want to buy the phone mid plan and will not fork over such big bucks.
overall, i think this chic has had a cell phone too close to her head for too long!
maybe she got the specs right, but i think she's off on the prices. there's only a $50 difference between the two models?! for double the amount of GB!!? that just does not make sense.
the prices are also high, even considering that carriers will likely offer discounts with service plans. apple must know that people will want to buy the phone mid plan and will not fork over such big bucks.
overall, i think this chic has had a cell phone too close to her head for too long!
I think what everyone is forgetting is that Apple is probably going to (mind you, this is if this whole thing happens with Apple only going with a single provider or two instead of selling it only at the store) make a deal with Cingular (or whoever) where the mobile company will sell the phone at a HUGE discount for those people signing up with new contracts or contract renewals...
So... even with prices like $700 and $500, with contract renewals or new contracts, customers will probably be able to get the phone for somewhere like $400 or $250, respectively.
Still... I'm hoping that Apple will keep the price reasonable (like they've been consistently doing with the last few iPod models and computers they've released) and sell it at the store as opposed to through a wireless retailer like Cingular.
Mind you, I'm biased since I have T-Mobile...
I hope this is wrong. I HAVE an iPod (60 gig w/video). I don't want to play music on my phone. I just want a phone.
If it's a great phone, just happens to play music, and doesn't cost $650... maybe.
If it's a great phone, just happens to play music, and doesn't cost $650... maybe.
Those prices are about what can be expected for what's going to be an extremely high end cell phone. Like someone else said, the prices you see most phones for are highly discounted by mobile carriers. Even signing up without a contract, you get a slight discount off the phone's actual cost. The companies make up the cost later on your monthly bill.
If these prices are accurate, that would be what phone companies would pay to be able to sell them to you. There's nothing surprising there.
If these prices are accurate, that would be what phone companies would pay to be able to sell them to you. There's nothing surprising there.
US$600 is steep but makes sense. High end phones from Nokia, SonyEricsson, Samsung, etc.. with music player and no hard drive cost that kind of money, or even more if you count PDA-turned-into-phones like the HTC and the iPaq...
IMHO this makes sense because bundling iPod with a phone cannot possibly convey a message to the market like "the music bit on this phone comes bundled for free"... who would ever buy a new iPod if that were true? people who cannot have phones with them while listening to music? No, that's too limited. iPod and iPhone must be priced in a way that they don't kill each other.
At this price range, it becomes clearer that iPhone is most likely a smartphone. if it were just a music player with phone it would cost twice as much as a Nokia 5300...
Personally I was hoping for a plain phone with music player and iSync for contacts and calendar, at about EUR200. I'll just wait and see if this rumour is right, I'm sure there will be plenty more
Look at the slvr, rokr and the new generations of the razr! No body really bought them for itunes, more their looks and style! I love my slvr and think it was very cool to intergrate both a phone and ipod!
I'm a fan boy, and I obsess over apple stuff as much as the next nut. But for that much loot, the phone better
-pour me a drink
-get me groceries
-pay me a salary
-digitally record and backup tv shows
-pet my cat
-walk
-find me better jobs and apartments
-discover new music that I would like
-place and accept phone calls
-and suddenly transform into a MBP
-pour me a drink
-get me groceries
-pay me a salary
-digitally record and backup tv shows
-pet my cat
-walk
-find me better jobs and apartments
-discover new music that I would like
-place and accept phone calls
-and suddenly transform into a MBP
Let's try to remember who Apple wants to target their phone at and then come up with a number. I did that and I came up with $199. Now factor in that Apple always seems to be a premium when it comes to similar priced items, so bump that up to $249 or even $299. That seems quite reasonable for their low end phone. If it's anymore higher than that, it's a flop no matter how you look at it. No way can they be serious to think that a new iPhone +$300 can survive in the market with what is out there and what is coming out there soon. Again this is for their entry level phone.
Apple is new to this market and the only way into it is to make a phone that is reasonable in price for the mass market is to price it right and make sure they hit the right group.
Now for the higher end phone...Considering I just bought a smartphone full price for over $400 I can't be much to judge what Apple marks up on their phones, but again I'm not the group Apple should be aiming for on the low end, maybe I'm in the higher end for the 8GB model. The higher group should be like $399 or $449.
Either way, I guess we'll all see when the time is right... only Steve knows that at this point in time.
Apple is new to this market and the only way into it is to make a phone that is reasonable in price for the mass market is to price it right and make sure they hit the right group.
Now for the higher end phone...Considering I just bought a smartphone full price for over $400 I can't be much to judge what Apple marks up on their phones, but again I'm not the group Apple should be aiming for on the low end, maybe I'm in the higher end for the 8GB model. The higher group should be like $399 or $449.
Either way, I guess we'll all see when the time is right... only Steve knows that at this point in time.
Apple is making a phone!
Lame, analysts specualtions arent front page news. There are so many rumors that there needs to be a new tab at the top.
Mac Rumors :: Page 2 :: Stupid iPhone
Lame, analysts specualtions arent front page news. There are so many rumors that there needs to be a new tab at the top.
Mac Rumors :: Page 2 :: Stupid iPhone
For that price, that phone better get ITSELF a job to pay for itself. I can think of a few other things that phone could do to make it worth it too...
Yikes. Think of the stories of people dropping their phones in the pool, having them stolen, etc. Now think of the prices again. I know there's a market for these things, but I'm just too clumsy for that price range.
There's another report today that Apple will launch thier own MVNO wireless service in 07:
http://ce.seekingalpha.com/article/22383
http://ce.seekingalpha.com/article/22383
I would say definitely not mail in rebates...not Apple's style. (yes, I know, they always have the back to school rebate, but that is different...it's a promotion) Although I have a feeling these prices are inaccurate, if they are, this is probably the unlocked price -- with a contract it would at least cut the price in half
my two cents