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More iPhone Details - $599 4GB and $649 8GB? [Updated]
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I feel the same way, but if the iPhone is really cool I might think twice. I just hope Cingular is not the carrier. Then I would not switch.
Can't find the thread so I can't quote myself but I predicted $500 for the entry level phone. Apple is not going for the low-end low profit part of the market
Apple needs to have people think of the iPhone is the Rolls Royce of cell phones at least at first They price it out of reach of most buyers so that it will be the phone that people want. Later the price will come down but the preception amoung buys will remain that iPhone is the best premium service
Also they may intentionally be pricing it high to curb demand. Apple will need to build a service organization and these are hard to grow fast. They can use price to control the rate of growth
There are plenty of people who can afford to drop $600 on one of these. Apple is a California company. Houses up in their area start at about $1M. It's the same down here in So. Calif around the beach areas. A lot of people and most households have over $100K/yr income. Lot of people can afford this. But how many will buy is a good question.
My guess is that these new iPhones will do something no other phone can do. Some kind of very close integration with mac OSX Leopard. No one but Apple can do the Leopard tie-in so they will be able to charge a premium price. My guess is "moble iChat". Maybe cals to a computer will be concidered "in network" and will be free. Don't know but you can bet on a strong tie-in to leopard. This is one of Steve's "super secret features". The iPhone and leoplard to be released togethere.
Me? No way do I want one of these. I have the $100 per year t-moble prepaid plan and make about 2 phone calls a week.
Apple needs to have people think of the iPhone is the Rolls Royce of cell phones at least at first They price it out of reach of most buyers so that it will be the phone that people want. Later the price will come down but the preception amoung buys will remain that iPhone is the best premium service
Also they may intentionally be pricing it high to curb demand. Apple will need to build a service organization and these are hard to grow fast. They can use price to control the rate of growth
There are plenty of people who can afford to drop $600 on one of these. Apple is a California company. Houses up in their area start at about $1M. It's the same down here in So. Calif around the beach areas. A lot of people and most households have over $100K/yr income. Lot of people can afford this. But how many will buy is a good question.
My guess is that these new iPhones will do something no other phone can do. Some kind of very close integration with mac OSX Leopard. No one but Apple can do the Leopard tie-in so they will be able to charge a premium price. My guess is "moble iChat". Maybe cals to a computer will be concidered "in network" and will be free. Don't know but you can bet on a strong tie-in to leopard. This is one of Steve's "super secret features". The iPhone and leoplard to be released togethere.
Me? No way do I want one of these. I have the $100 per year t-moble prepaid plan and make about 2 phone calls a week.
I will never choose Cingular
I don't know how Apple could ever choose Cingular. They are consistently ranked poorly in customer service; I KNOW! I am currently with Verizon and although they are not perfect either, customer service has been superior based on my own experiences. If Cingular is the carrier, I would have to pass on the "iPhone". Too bad.
I don't know how Apple could ever choose Cingular. They are consistently ranked poorly in customer service; I KNOW! I am currently with Verizon and although they are not perfect either, customer service has been superior based on my own experiences. If Cingular is the carrier, I would have to pass on the "iPhone". Too bad.
Yes, I did and that's why I have a 2 years contract with Verizon that's expiring in March. But still if Apple wants to sell this stand alone to be use on all carriers or most of it, they have to price it very aggressively. IF NOT then the phone needs to be subsidized by the carriers and then locking you in a contract.
Very few people would pay more than what this analyst is predicting and on top of that get lock in a contract. If that's the case, I don't see much success on this product.
it is because of inflation ahahhahaa
so we can all afford it now, cause it's really not THAT expensive
jk...i'll wait till the price comes down, like the wii... can anyone find it for the 250 its supposed to cost??
so we can all afford it now, cause it's really not THAT expensive
jk...i'll wait till the price comes down, like the wii... can anyone find it for the 250 its supposed to cost??
I hope not...Cingular only would be bad for me, and those price tags would put it out of SO many people's range.....the other 249 and 449 rumor was by someone who called the Nano out of nowhere so I believe him(or maybe I just really like what he was saying)
Never the less I'd buy it!
Never the less I'd buy it!
Again I say, Apple is targeting people with disposable income you know those that won't hesitate to buy $250 pair of jeans.
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I agree with you on this one; especially with the other rumors we've been reading about Apple trying to 'differentiate' between a 4GB basic and 8GB 'smart' phone, this just seems too out there. Maybe the analyst just tacked on another $400 to the nano prices to estimate the cost of adding phone features.
Wot no camra?
Steep prices could kil it off for good.
Informed, better off customers or Apple-addicts will pay more for something a bit nice but there are limits.
If SJ gets feed back from forums like this then: pull the product now you don't want a white elephant!
Steep prices could kil it off for good.
Informed, better off customers or Apple-addicts will pay more for something a bit nice but there are limits.
If SJ gets feed back from forums like this then: pull the product now you don't want a white elephant!
What is the sweet spot for the pricing?
What about the sweet spot pricing that SJ talks about all the time. If 99 cents is a sweet spot pricing for songs then 200 to 300 is a sweet spot pricing for iPhone.
Or is it that everyone else's products can have low sweet spot where as Apple's products should sell at a premium?
What about the sweet spot pricing that SJ talks about all the time. If 99 cents is a sweet spot pricing for songs then 200 to 300 is a sweet spot pricing for iPhone.
Or is it that everyone else's products can have low sweet spot where as Apple's products should sell at a premium?
I just hate them. I can get reception at my home and at my office, their service is really bad. I had then for 3 years and dropped it 2 years back. I still hear they still suck from friends.
I know that depends where you live. For some folks it works great. So I just hope Apple will have more than one carrier.
Good call
Sounds legit.
I buy the idea of tight integration with Leopard and a joint presentation when Leopard is launched about a month after MacWorld... It could be the One more thing...
Sounds legit.
I buy the idea of tight integration with Leopard and a joint presentation when Leopard is launched about a month after MacWorld... It could be the One more thing...
The price is more like it. It looks fair to me. Sim free N91 when it was released was around £600.
This rumor sucks. Metal? Imagine how cold that will be to use during the winter while you're outside! The price is too high too. I would consider buying one for $300 or even $400, but not $600.
There's no way Apple can release a standalone phone and expect to compete with SUBSIDIZED carrier phones. Carriers take a loss on the phones to tie you into a contract. That's the only way it's profitable for them to offer such inexpensive phones. If Apple were to attempt to compete with subsidized phones, they would take a loss on each unit, and not have the revenue of offering service to offset the loss.
I still think an MVNO for Apple makes the most sense. They can offer all the features they want, with no carrier restrictions. And you can bet the carriers will want to restrict this, as it directly competes with their pay services. Plus, if Apple can sign you into a contract, they can subsidize the phone themselves and offer it for far less than 599 or 649.
Unlike others, I actually like the idea of those price points. This would be especially compelling if Apple does engage the MVNO model. I particularly detest the current scam of mobile operators of charging huge monthly rentals solely to offset the actual cost of the initial phone purchase. In order to benefit from these current contracts, as users we should all renew our phone each year. Getting a new phone each year is bad for the environment and it also ends up costing extra anyhow.
If I can get a contract with an operator who charges 1 or 2 bucks a month line rental, competitive call pricing then I will happily pay the stated sum up front for the phone.
If I get 4 years use out of it I'll be thrilled.
One more thing: Apple better get a move on. Those Sony Erricson Walkman phones are multiplying rapidly. People are proudly displaying them and friends are cooing over them. Kids too are starting to turn against the uncool iPod (too common).
If I can get a contract with an operator who charges 1 or 2 bucks a month line rental, competitive call pricing then I will happily pay the stated sum up front for the phone.
If I get 4 years use out of it I'll be thrilled.
One more thing: Apple better get a move on. Those Sony Erricson Walkman phones are multiplying rapidly. People are proudly displaying them and friends are cooing over them. Kids too are starting to turn against the uncool iPod (too common).
sounds good then. What's MVNO?
I based my opinion on the fact that they will try to be stand alone. If not, I don't mind get stuck in a contract as long as the iPhone is good.
My concern is that hopefully they will offer it to more than one carrier. so we can choose which carrier is the best.
I think the main reason why it would be with Cingular would be because it is a GSM phone so in America, Cingular is the largest carrier and they would also offer an unlocked version for the rest of the world. Over making a CDMA one which will only be good with Sprint or Verizon and will leave everyone else out of the market.
I have to say that, IMHO you are so wrong, and I think all the buzz around this iPhone idea from within the Apple community and others in the industry support this. Cell phones interfaces are crap right now. They are unintuitive, fugly, and do a very poor job of integrating features that people really want. Cludge. Pure cludge. People want an alternative. Apple has not said one word about this product, yet their stock prices respond to every little rumor concerning this. Why? Because people hate their current cellphones are looking to Apple to make somethink that "just works."
As far as the price: I'm assuming that price she quotes is unlocked. That is about right or even less money for a typical smartphone. All I can say is that I hope it happens quickly. My Treo is starting to crash hourly. Treating it with kid gloves to make it last just a few more weeks.