I can't see Apple doing this at all. I mean, in my area Verizon is one of the best carriers, and it doesn't even carry a phone that cost more than $500 max. Thats without a contract.
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Ouch, that has to hurt. Sorry for your loss. I feel for you.I don't thnk Apple will cross the $499 barrier, the specs seem possible
I guess we will have to wait to MWSF
BTW I have a trip to SF one week after MWSF....
Well, I don't know about Treo specifically, but the real retail price (let's say from Amazon, as not many places in the US sell unlocked phones) is usually much lower than the crazy MSRP. I guess that is not so different than digital cameras. However, when Apple sets a price they stick by it. You don't get much discount anywhere. If Apple keeps the same business model and says $650, the phone company will not subsidize it to the tune of $400.
This is only with a service plan. Even from Amazon, it would cost a lot more if you did not sign up for a service plan.
http://www.amazon.com/palm-Treo-700p-Smartphone-Sprint/dp/B000GJOUGK
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Not THAT expensive
a) We haven't even seen what it will do
b) You underestimate what people will pay, of course the bargin phone hunter won't be getting one, but what about a fashionista or gadget wizard or teen with bux to spend?
c) People seem to ignore that it will probably be subsidized!
ALSO the iPod photo was $499 with NO VIDEO and NO PHONE, only two years ago, and it was the same price as Mac Mini...
a) We haven't even seen what it will do
b) You underestimate what people will pay, of course the bargin phone hunter won't be getting one, but what about a fashionista or gadget wizard or teen with bux to spend?
c) People seem to ignore that it will probably be subsidized!
ALSO the iPod photo was $499 with NO VIDEO and NO PHONE, only two years ago, and it was the same price as Mac Mini...
If they launch their so-called iPhone at $599, they can say goodbye to two markets: India and China. India alone adds 6 million new connections per month and is expected to add around 10 million per month shortly. China manages 3-4 million per month, too. Even if the high end category has a 20% market share in these markets, Apple will say goodbye to at least 1.2 million connections a month. That's just in India.
The golden rule for any manufacturer is that you can't afford to ignore these two markets, if you want a decent market share, even in the high end category.
The golden rule for any manufacturer is that you can't afford to ignore these two markets, if you want a decent market share, even in the high end category.
The price isn't phasing me...I've been anticipating this phone for soooo long, at this point I don't care what it costs. I WILL BUY
I've almost gotten this way. Maybe not $600 but I'd probably pay upwards of $500 for an iPhone (assuming it's amazing) if it worked for Verizon. My other option is the Chocolate, and I'd not get it.
I kinda doubt the price points. A $50 difference between 4GB and 8GB just makes no sense. If you can afford a $599 phone you are probably going to go for 2x the RAM for $50 more.
But lets say those prices are accurate. The iTunes phone has been done. Not so great, but its been done. It not going to turn heads anymore.
Where is the phone competition these days...it's in the PDA market. Blackberry and Treo phones are what everyone is chasing. Moto has the Q, Samsung has the new Blackjack. With the rumors of a mini OS X on the phone it seems that is where Apple is heading. iTunes in on OS X, but so is iPhoto, iSync, iMovie.
An Apple knock off of the RAZR for $600. Count me out. But if it exceeds the Treo's capabilities I'm all over it for $600.
Also I see Apple operating as an MVNO, and not with any particular cell co. Maybe they will use Cingular lines , but it won't be a Cingular phone. Apple likes to call the shots and no cell phone company will let them do that.
But lets say those prices are accurate. The iTunes phone has been done. Not so great, but its been done. It not going to turn heads anymore.
Where is the phone competition these days...it's in the PDA market. Blackberry and Treo phones are what everyone is chasing. Moto has the Q, Samsung has the new Blackjack. With the rumors of a mini OS X on the phone it seems that is where Apple is heading. iTunes in on OS X, but so is iPhoto, iSync, iMovie.
An Apple knock off of the RAZR for $600. Count me out. But if it exceeds the Treo's capabilities I'm all over it for $600.
Also I see Apple operating as an MVNO, and not with any particular cell co. Maybe they will use Cingular lines , but it won't be a Cingular phone. Apple likes to call the shots and no cell phone company will let them do that.
Have you never gone out for a snack and going past the Chinese food, seen that they sell a small serving of, eg. sweet n sour pork for $8, and a large for $9? More profitable businesses use this model. Obviously it seems more tempting to buy the large size for the extra dollar, as it appears to be better value. All they are doing is ensuring they still make a guaranteed maximum profit from the smaller item. Everything else is cream. Apple could very well do the same thing.
Apple Computers is soon to become Apple Electronics
Yeah, sucks big time.
Although it could just be inevitable seeing that computers and other electronic devices are merging and blurring more and more as time goes by.
Well, I could not find a Treo, but RAZR V3i list price is $599, but unlocked price without service plan is $235 on Amazon. If that's what Apple means by $599 list price, fine. However, nowadays if Apple's list price is $599 on a product, you almost never get such a big discount on Amazon.
Morgan Stanley analyst Rebecca F Runkle has "high conviction" that the iPhone will launch in the first half of 2007. In addition to this, she cites unnamed sources to provide some specs for the unreleased Apple phone:
- $599 for 4GB
- $649 for 8GB
- 3.5 inch LCD screen
- Wider than the iPod nano
- Thinner than the iPod Video
- Made of Metal
- Multiple colors, but at least including black, white, and silver
- Cingular Wireless is likely carrier in the U.S.
The proposed prices of the iPhone are much higher than the only previous rumor which pointed to $249 and $449 4GB and 8GB models.
Historically we have little record of Rebecca F Runkle's previous accuracy. Previous descriptions of the Apple Phone have described it as a candy bar form factor.
Hmm... what to buy.. what to buy... iPhone or Mac mini?
Seriously though, those prices are insane! Over 600$ for a phone
No, thanks. I'm staying with my Sony Erricsson Very true, thus they will probably make less of the 4GB models. Just like the PS3 and XBOX 360 pricing schemes (300/400 and 500/600).
We all have to stop and remember, perception is %100 of reality! If someone thinks its worth $600 bucks, thell spend it! This ishow apple started doing biz and will probably always do biz! The ipod was over $400 bucks a couple years ago and now you can pick up the same amount of storage for half that, ur paying for the bells, wistles and looks. Do you REALLY think sony, microsoft and nintendo had NO idea all their first run units would sell out at those redicilous prices only to be resold foe 3X retail! One of the major service providers will make a deal, apple will get what they want per unit and the provider will take you for a couple hundred bucks over the term of your contract( or get you for early termination) and every one is happy! And by the way, i will sleep in front of whatever provider is going to carry it the night before sale and will be one of the first! Now if i could only figure out how to get this newton up and ruunning again
Like most of you, this entry price is completely off the charts. I suspect idiocy is running amok.
Man, you really crack me up...
I have to say that would be one hell of a flight you would go on, if you needed more songs than a 4GB or 8GB iPhone can hold.
1,000 songs or 4,000 minutes (66,7 hours or 2,78 days) for the 4GB version.
2,000 songs pr 8,000 minutes (133,33 hours or 5,6 days) for the 8GB version.
...one hell of a flight I tell you...
I remember buying the Sony Ericsson K750i when it came out for $500. It came with a 64MB Memory Stick. I wouldn't mind paying more for an Apple phone.
Did you buy your PC yet?
