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Anecdotal user experience in the UK indicates that the actual difference between Edge and 3G may be very small though.
I admit I have not used a 3G network, but your claim can't possibly be accurate. I'm mean the EDGE speeds and 3G speeds according to the providers are like night and day different.Anecdotal user experience in the UK indicates that the actual difference between Edge and 3G may be very small though.
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However, not to get into any kind of slinging match, I stand corrected and bow to your superior knowledge
however if you have a look at posts on the iPhone forum about actual EDGE speeds on O2's network compared to what some people are getting on other brands of phones with 3G then my statement stands. (And no, I haven't used the search function to go collate all the links
but they are there
)I certainly hope I am wrong but we'll see.
No, they can't… iTunes is pay for download only. Mac or PC…
I think you misunderstood a little... Dopeytree is right - PC users can currently download from iPlayer and watch back at leisure - but not from iTunes, and I don't think the download can be re-encoded for portable use. And there still is a time limit on those files IIRC. Admittedly it can be read as pc users can download for free from iTunes - it should have read:
"come on we want to be able to download the tv shows free from itunes, like pc users can from iPlayer"
Hope you don't mind the clarification dopeytree
I have done tests, and for most web pages, EDGE is faster on an iPhone than 3G on a SE phone. However, some of this slow down comes from having to open and close lots of different files for pictures, frames, etc., with only one thing to download (i.e. a movie), 3G is faster. It's more or less the same reason as to why FireWire is faster than USB2, despite USB2 having a theoretical speed of 450Mbps to FW's 400Mbps.
Gamesoft=fake
I don't know why everyone's making such a big deal about that Gamesoft image, it's totally a mock-up. It includes Apple's stock PR photo time of 9:42 and at the bottom shows the 4 main app titles from the home screen, those being Phone, Mail, Safari, and iPod. That image is Photoshopped, and badly at that. Games will be cool though, and I say will because we all know they're gonna come with the SDK.
-Brian
I don't know why everyone's making such a big deal about that Gamesoft image, it's totally a mock-up. It includes Apple's stock PR photo time of 9:42 and at the bottom shows the 4 main app titles from the home screen, those being Phone, Mail, Safari, and iPod. That image is Photoshopped, and badly at that. Games will be cool though, and I say will because we all know they're gonna come with the SDK.
-Brian
It has an online flash based version yes, but there's a windows media download version as well that uses P2P to download files for offline viewing for up to 30 days later unlike the online flash based ones that have 7 days of life.
~Pev
I think you misunderstood a little... Dopeytree is right - PC users can currently download from iPlayer and watch back at leisure - but not from iTunes, and I don't think the download can be re-encoded for portable use. And there still is a time limit on those files IIRC. Admittedly it can be read as pc users can download for free from iTunes - it should have read:
"come on we want to be able to download the tv shows free from itunes, like pc users can from iPlayer"
Hope you don't mind the clarification dopeytree
Hehehe but that's not what he said.
But thanks for changing it for him. 
I know - seems like all the recent 'hot spot' deals are just stopgap silliness.
If I didn't already have an iPhone (which I have been incredibly pleased with) - nothing would make me consider one until 3G.
release in france?
Oh please BBC! Won't you let an expat in France watch your shows instead of forcing him to download all his episodes so that you don't get any advertising revenue?!?!?
Oh please BBC! Won't you let an expat in France watch your shows instead of forcing him to download all his episodes so that you don't get any advertising revenue?!?!?
Anecdotal user experience in the UK indicates that the actual difference between Edge and 3G may be very small though.
Possibly with the original 3G, but its looking increasingly likely that the new iPhone will be HSPDA, which is even faster, plus (anecdotally at least!!) much of the lack of a speed difference between EDGE and 3G had to with the ability of the phones rather than the actual data transfer speeds. If the iPlayer does make it onto the 3G iPhone it would be unbelievable!!
I am sorry to say that I believe we will all be disappointed with the SDK. It is my feeling that applications will NOT be able to take advantage of using the AT&T edge connection, and that apps created using the SDK will only have access to the internet via wi-fi.
The "unlimited" downloads on the iPhone plan are already pretty limited. You cannot stream radio, which edge is capable of doing.
From the article:
iPlayer will be Wi-Fi only
This is a hint in itself. The iPlayer nor any app will be able to use the cellular data connection. Even though edge is slow, it would be nice to allow video to buffer up.
I really hope I am wrong on this... I have chosen not to re-jailbreak my phone in anticipation of this SDK, but I am thinking the wait will not be worth it.
Besides, you know the second an SDK is released with the ability to access the cellular data connection, someone will develop a great tethering application for the iPhone. AT&T would not allow this. They would rather you pay for an overpriced $60 per month plan. In the interim, someone needs to create a simple jailbreak application to do this, instead of the manual steps that are now required to do this.
The "unlimited" downloads on the iPhone plan are already pretty limited. You cannot stream radio, which edge is capable of doing.
From the article:
iPlayer will be Wi-Fi only
This is a hint in itself. The iPlayer nor any app will be able to use the cellular data connection. Even though edge is slow, it would be nice to allow video to buffer up.
I really hope I am wrong on this... I have chosen not to re-jailbreak my phone in anticipation of this SDK, but I am thinking the wait will not be worth it.
Besides, you know the second an SDK is released with the ability to access the cellular data connection, someone will develop a great tethering application for the iPhone. AT&T would not allow this. They would rather you pay for an overpriced $60 per month plan. In the interim, someone needs to create a simple jailbreak application to do this, instead of the manual steps that are now required to do this.
Im sure BBC will limit the streaming to UK IP addressess only just like BBC.CO.UK does. In the states we are kept from viewing anything on BBC's website that has to do with Torchwood.... you get this kind of error:
Access to this site is restricted.
If you are outside the UK you will not be able to use bbc.co.uk/torchwood for rights reasons
Access to this site is restricted.
If you are outside the UK you will not be able to use bbc.co.uk/torchwood for rights reasons
bbc iplayer... meh
slingplayer... PLLEEEEAAAAASSSSSEEEEEE!!!
Now THAT would be awesome. And perfect for wi-fi.
Actually, a lot of people. You may not - but so what - the Earth doesn't revolve around you.
Its great / makes a change that something is going to happen that isn't exclusive to the u.s only.
WiFi is nowhere near ubiqutous enough for this to be seriously useful. Free download and use FairlPlay DRM ala movie rentals and we have a deal
I know they would, but what's the point of using DRM if the download is free?
Because content providers will only allow streaming or downloads that self destruct via drm..
To prevent you from keeping it for free and not buying it later on dvd/itunes purchase..
BBC shows for people in the UK should be free as they pay a yearly tax to support the BBC. The rest of world should have to pay to see their programming as we do now. That is why you would want to use DRM for a free download.
Don't try and start that debate again - its never happened in the past and it'll never happen in the future
Yeah, they're using flash for the streaming, but WMV for the Windows based downloads. This doesn't point to Flash support any more than roadkill does.
I'll lay 10-1 that it'll be an application like YouTube, for UK users to view and enjoy the Beeb's programming
why the **** should i care about bbc and lame ass games? i want real apps! **** bad shows and cheap ass games
This is why the world hates America.