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More iTunes 5 Info?

Originally posted by ennerseed
No Joke! I was at my little neighborhood bar/restaurant watching the owners put their own money in the jukebox... They were talking about buying a their own (most are rented) so they could make it free. All i could think was iPod, but dam no jukebox type queue. -nice... it would keep people from coming over (office / house) and changing my song to what they want to hear... "just double click it, it'll come on after my song(s)" -love it
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well there is the "On-the-go" playlist on the iPod. just find a song and hold down the select botton until the name flashes a couple times, that will add it to the playlist, and they are fluid in changing while you're "on the go" as it were. works great for me :p
 
Re: Re: Re: New encoding options?

Originally posted by ennerseed
Select your cd tracks then go to the menu bar under "Advanced" select "Join CD Tracks" then click the Import button.
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Won't work. You lose the cue sheet, and can no longer jump between independent tracks!

Crossfade: Tried this. No good, especially not when the songs are seamlessly connected - it screws up the rythm and just doesn't sound right!

Point is: CD-players has managed this since the 80s - why doesn't iTunes in 2003??:confused: :mad:
 
MP3

I hope the new iTunes will give me the ablity to record a CD in MP3 format and still keep the folder (or playlist) orginization. Right now, I have to use Toast to do so since iTunes just dumps 150+ songs on a CD. Using folders allows me to switch from album to album or song to song on my car Mp3/CD player.
 
I think WMA audio will hit iTunes, as well as full WMP support (a plugin, I suppose) for QuickTime.
 
Since Jobs has said that the only reason for ITMS is to sell more iPods...

WMA support for both the codec and DRM will happen to increase the range of people that would purchase the iPod. I would look for the iPod to support even more codecs in the future.

As for anything non-audio supported in the iPod, I don't think so, besides that I don't think the iPod is capable of decoding video, it wouldn't fit into the plans Jobs has for the iPod.
 
Re: Will steve use a PC in the iTunes windows key note!?!

Originally posted by ariza910
I was just thinking that if Steve Jobs has a key note to present iTunes for Windows he will have to use a PC to show it off. Cant wait for his comment on this one.

What type of PC will he use? Dell LOL.
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Nah, my bets are as follows:

- Steve runs down how successful iTMS has been, and how phenomenal the iPod has performed so far

- "but we can make the iPod a little better"

- introduces cool iPod accessories, modular in design, hence the whole "Pod" naming strategy

- "so how do we get at all these new features?"

- introduces iTunes 5 for OS X. Lengthy tech demo of iTunes 5 on a G5, showing new accessories syncing (or whatever) via iTunes, new iTMS features, etc etc. This is the majority of the presentation.

- plays the new iPod ad. Rewind to "Mac & PC" frame.

- "But wait a minute. How do we get these cool new accessories to work on the PC? MusicMatch can't do that!"

- fade from MusicMatch to iTunes for Windows

- "And it's got _completely_the_same_ functionality as the OS X version"

...

Et voila - Steve doesn't have to get his hands dirty!

I would actually be willing to bet that one of the "delays" in iTunes for Win was making sure that the OS X version was ready too, so that a demo on OS X would suffice for both ;)
 
A reach, but do you think the iTMS playing Windows Media has anything to do with the new Player Windows is releasing soon?
 
Originally posted by arn
Watermarking DRM.
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If Apple does this the iTMS is destined to fail. Consumers have time and time again resisted DRM that is too intrusive and once it starts to affect the audio quality of the recording (by watermarking) you reach the point where people will no longer buy it.

Also, the watermarking technology by Verance has been widely discredited. Remember a little while back when the RIAA posted several audio files on their website that were watermarked and challenged hackers to defeat the watermarks? Every single one of them was defeated. This is that same technology.

The DRM as it exists on iTMS right now is acceptable. If Apple decides to start watermarking every file with the subscriber name or something that will identify the user, this will not be acceptable. Go ahead and sell me a digital song, but don't interfere with the sound quality.

Let's think of a hypothetical situation here: Let's say I burn an audio CD with some of my iTMS purchased music on it and loan it to a friend. That friend decides to rip it to MP3 and uploads it on Kazaa. The files on Kazaa are widely distributed, and pretty soon I get a nice fat letter from an RIAA attorney suing me for illegally sharing music online. Sound far-fetched? If Apple uses watermarking DRM this is only the beginning of the picture.
 
Re: Re: Panther Countdown and other updates

Originally posted by airbag
If iTMS-Windows is ready to go, they can't afford to wait!
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You are right on the money with this one. Napster 2.0 is going to be released next week and they already have huge name recognition. If Apple wants to be even a small player in the online music market, they need to launch iTMS for Windows immediately.
 
I would think the listener loans part of this would fall into what a lot of audio-content houses are using now online for samples - the complete track, but at like 20 kbps, instead of 128. It sounds like crap, and you wouldn't want to listen to it normally, but would be helpful to you in previewing or comping music before purchase. If you've heard part of a song, and want to make sure it's the right song before plunking down your change for it, maybe a low-res rendition that you can loan out (without expecting it back) is the way to go. And at low enough resolution, the full track would take probably as much space as the present 128 kbps AAC previews do now. And trust me, low enough, even the pirates would toss it.
 
Originally posted by SoonToGetAMac
Yeah, I'll take bets that that's exactly what happens.:D Mabye Arn can just post that on the play-by-play keynote site:)
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Don't see that happening. iTfW is all about Windows, not trying to plug the Mac. Windows users (rightly so in many instances) see Mac users as arrogant. Steve needs to demo it on a Windows box (IBM box anyone?) and show how easy it is to use; maybe even demo it side by side with a Mac.
 
Originally posted by rdowns
Don't see that happening. iTfW is all about Windows, not trying to plug the Mac. Windows users (rightly so in many instances) see Mac users as arrogant. Steve needs to demo it on a Windows box (IBM box anyone?) and show how easy it is to use; maybe even demo it side by side with a Mac.
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edit: woo hoo- no longer a newbie
 
Re: MP3

Originally posted by duffyb
I hope the new iTunes will give me the ablity to record a CD in MP3 format and still keep the folder (or playlist) orginization. Right now, I have to use Toast to do so since iTunes just dumps 150+ songs on a CD. Using folders allows me to switch from album to album or song to song on my car Mp3/CD player.
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iTunes has had this since version 2. You can organize in separate folders by Artist or Album.

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60931
 
will be interesting to see if iTunes 5 (if it does indeed exist) is somehow bundled with Panther but currently hidden. Can't wait to see what iPod accessories might be on the way too ...
 
Re: New encoding options?

Originally posted by bankshot
If the "new encoding options" part is true, then please please please let it include ripping a whole album as one file with a cue sheet. Please! :p

I've probably posted about this a million times, but for me, this is by far the most glaring fault of iTunes and the iPod. In either one, I can't listen to an album straight through without slight gaps between tracks -- it's worse on the iPod. Most albums are ok, because they're created with silence between tracks. So you don't even notice. But some albums have tracks that run into one another with no break, and of course live albums have the whole crowd noise going all the time. In these albums, I get gaps.
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YES! this drives me crazy. If anyone has listened to Chicago Transit Authority, there are 6-7 tracks that merge together into almost one song. If drives me up the wall that the music stops for a second when the track changes
 
Originally posted by blueBomber
wow... I could actually see Steve doing that exact set up
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I think i see him starting the Dell up and it crashing as he moves to buymusic.com, then he reboots, and shows the iTMS on windows. Sorta like Gates' crashing the PC on stage a long time ago.
 
Originally posted by tizza
will be interesting to see if iTunes 5 (if it does indeed exist) is somehow bundled with Panther but currently hidden. Can't wait to see what iPod accessories might be on the way too ...
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It could be in plain sight on the final copy of the CD and since no one has the final copy, no one knows what is actually on the CD, despite that Apple says that iTunes 4is on it.
 
two words:

Virtual PC.

I know it doesn't work with the G5 yet but maybe show off the new PowerBook 15" or just run a 17" under the table with a screen and bluetooth mouse and keyboard. wouldn't that be tight.
 
Originally posted by ducam23
two words:

Virtual PC.

I know it doesn't work with the G5 yet but maybe show off the new PowerBook 15" or just run a 17" under the table with a screen and bluetooth mouse and keyboard. wouldn't that be tight.
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Hmm. I'm a-doubtin it... Somehow I just can't see Steve using a windows machine. Let's be honest - the only people who are going to be watching this are us. I doubt I'll ever see a Stevenote aimed at the Windows crowd.

Of course I could be wrong, but I just can't picture it... can you?

Regardless, VPC is now a MS app. If he wants to keep it clean, he'd be better using a dedicated wintel ;)
 
Originally posted by JayBee
For iTfW to be successful, it HAS to live up to the Apple promise of being good to go out of the box. Re-ripping, converting, being made aware of a problem (using WMA) that wasn't a problem till you used iTunes, and not being able to load your music on to your iPod are not examples of a solution that "Just Works".
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I agree, which is why I'd guess iTunes for Windows will support the conversion-on-import of WMA to AAC or MP3, not playing WMA. The ability to play WMA does Apple little good, unless the iPod will also be updated to play WMA files.
 
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