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More Leopard Screenshots, Details Emerging?
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Why?? Why is it useful? Tryiing to navigate the web with that little IR remote would be simply awful.Screen mirroring withTV would be a solid feature. ...
I'm getting a little bit tired of those Apple sites coming with 'news' which is clearly made up or just totally obvious non-information.
If you break down the message most of it is just obvious or feels like it has been made up on the spot.
You can stream your Mac OS X interface to your television using Apple TV. Even if this wouldn't be an official feature at time of release I bet it would be quite easy to accomplish. Sending movies or your direct screen output...they're all bit and bytes. Not a very hard to guess bit of 'information'.
iChat will get video away messages. For a voice and video chat application that would be a logical step, and again an easy guess.
The iPhone will use Leopard functionality and Leopard will have iPhone features. Jobs already said that the phone has core animation so, again, it's an easy guess that some things in the iPhone will rely on Leopard and vica versa.
I thought it was already pretty obvious that Steve Jobs didn't show all the applications from the iPhone. So the 'mystery' application can be anything he didn't show. The camera application, he didn't show it. So it's a mystery to me. Again not really a ground-breaking bit of information.
If you break down the message most of it is just obvious or feels like it has been made up on the spot.
You can stream your Mac OS X interface to your television using Apple TV. Even if this wouldn't be an official feature at time of release I bet it would be quite easy to accomplish. Sending movies or your direct screen output...they're all bit and bytes. Not a very hard to guess bit of 'information'.
iChat will get video away messages. For a voice and video chat application that would be a logical step, and again an easy guess.
The iPhone will use Leopard functionality and Leopard will have iPhone features. Jobs already said that the phone has core animation so, again, it's an easy guess that some things in the iPhone will rely on Leopard and vica versa.
I thought it was already pretty obvious that Steve Jobs didn't show all the applications from the iPhone. So the 'mystery' application can be anything he didn't show. The camera application, he didn't show it. So it's a mystery to me. Again not really a ground-breaking bit of information.
I have been posting on iPhone (ATN) for months now.
One comment made in the article referenced is that iChat would not enable the video aspect since the camera is on the reverse of the device.
FLIP IT AROUND for full send emphasis video conferencing, and where practical, have it mirror on your HDTV or computer. Stand in front of a mirror?
Final release version has the SCREEN capture images and scan documents?!
As I posted a long time ago folks are now realizing this could be a super remote control. It could be a skype phone via 802.11 b/g/n. And soon a skype videophone and Skype Joos sling-tv like device/service.
Rocketman
One comment made in the article referenced is that iChat would not enable the video aspect since the camera is on the reverse of the device.
FLIP IT AROUND for full send emphasis video conferencing, and where practical, have it mirror on your HDTV or computer. Stand in front of a mirror?
Final release version has the SCREEN capture images and scan documents?!As I posted a long time ago folks are now realizing this could be a super remote control. It could be a skype phone via 802.11 b/g/n. And soon a skype videophone and Skype Joos sling-tv like device/service.
Rocketman
When you speculate as to what Apple could do, if you're pretty good at your speculation, you MAYBE have a 30% chance of your predictions coming true.
If you have an inside source, even with the false reports, you have a much better chance of making accurate predictions.
In the case of LoopRumors, we used to think like you did: We used to think that they were just making stuff up. But then they nailed a lot of the iPhone specifics. They clearly have their source(s). Time will tell how accurate they are in the broad scheme of things.
Agreed. They've been hitting plenty of rumors on the head or darn close to it recently. I've been paying more attention to their posts (especially the "wow the audience with leopard" article). And besides, they have a very nice widget too.
The HDTV market place is just screaming for apple to come in and provide the solution for the tormented and confused HDTV consumer like they did for the mp3 player consumer! Front Row, apple TV and all. Get it going apple, bring out the large screen HDTV panels. Don't blow the timing and miss the opportunity.
Not sure what's new (besides the filter added to Spotlight search window). All the other shots look like what you can do in Tiger's Slideshow as it is.
Everything is bits and bytes, but streaming requires this additional step of Compression. For movies, and stuff... the files are usually already compressed into MPEG streams. For Desktop & Screencasting... the compression needs to happen in real-time and its not a simple frame by frame transfer over the network. Although, it could be delivered full-framed uncompressed 1080i on a local 802.11n network... for iChat screen sharing, you need to compress it.
And I hope apple is actually talking about streaming screen over the network and not just another VNC app.
If this is in fact a real feature in leopard... it's a great feature. Maybe all that resolution independence features built into the OS makes this possible.
Anyway, about the excitement factor. I agree. Nothing in that post excites me very much. I think they are just trying to get site hits at loop rumors with vapor news that any tom, dick, and harry can steam up.
true. maybe the screen is a camera. wasn't there a patent filing a while ago where all the pixels in a thing are tiny camera's that work together to make one big one. (don't flame me too hard if i'm wrong.)
Back in the days Steve wanted to license os6 and now Apple is going to make a lot more money on the iPhone than it will ever do on Mac computers so why am i dreaming? Sooner or later they will have to license FairPlay and osX to other hardware makers and the combination Leopard/iPhone seems to me like a good opportunity.Keep dreaming...
I like the carrot-and-stick approach: Make it work with PC, but hold a few things back that only work with Mac.
I would actually like to see Apple draw people over the Mac by pushing a few more things out for PC that will entice them over.
* iChat on every platform;
* some special Mac only (or Mac first) content on iTS;
* a free and very stripped down iPhoto app for Windows with an easy and online way for you to eventually move all your photos to Mac;
* similar migration (or licensed new downloads) of Windows iTS content to Mac iTunes;
* tighter integration to Exchange.
AppleTV
The screen display through AppleTV looks very exciting. However, I would more like to have a solution to play my HD archive from EyeTV 2 through the AppleTV or have it act as AirTunes speakers. What if I don't want to turn on my projector to play music in my theater?
The issue with getting HD streams from EyeTV 2 is 1) bandwidth and 2) the ability of the AppleTV's hardware and software to decode such stream. That's all assuming ElGato can get the EyeTV library to appear as a source to AppleTV. Don't think I'm gonna convert my whole HD library to iTunes - not possible.
The screen display through AppleTV looks very exciting. However, I would more like to have a solution to play my HD archive from EyeTV 2 through the AppleTV or have it act as AirTunes speakers. What if I don't want to turn on my projector to play music in my theater?
The issue with getting HD streams from EyeTV 2 is 1) bandwidth and 2) the ability of the AppleTV's hardware and software to decode such stream. That's all assuming ElGato can get the EyeTV library to appear as a source to AppleTV. Don't think I'm gonna convert my whole HD library to iTunes - not possible.
don't forget apple did file a patent a few years ago for a screen that not only displayed images, but could actually record them like a camera. i would put the chances of that happening on the first gen iphone at approximately 1 to 1 billion, but you never know.
No, you cannot deliver full-frame uncompressed 1080i on an 802.11n network. You can't even transfer 1280 x 720 (about the size of a MacBook's screen) at 24 frames per second uncompressed over a local 802.11n network. You could conceivably do the latter on gig-E, maybe (it would require ~500Mbit/s). 802.11n is significantly slower than this.
If this feature is in Leopard, either some form of compression will be employed, or the frame rate will be low, or both.
I love the fact that the main thing that would lead people to believe that there is some special super secret "mystery" app that they've developed but weren't read to show is the fact that there was room for one more icon on the last row.
I'm starting a new rumor here and now - the iPhone has been limited to run no more than 16 apps, since that is all that will fit on the front screen of the device.
I'm starting a new rumor here and now - the iPhone has been limited to run no more than 16 apps, since that is all that will fit on the front screen of the device.
theres a sh*t ton of things apple *could* do with itv. but they wont because they are so damned proprietary. so sorry rest of the world. no open standard use itms or nothing at all.
goodbye bliptv google video, gootube, flickr, etc etc.
goodbye bliptv google video, gootube, flickr, etc etc.
The satellite and cable carriers need to be VERY afraid of what Apple is capable of doing in the HDTV space.
With the TV titles they have now and no more hardware than a computer and Apple TV, a tiered content subscription deal could steal 20 percent of satellite/cable's market share in 3-5 years -- and high-end users that spend a lot of money on HD, PPV movies, DVRs, etc. -- and give the networks a precise, measurable market of young, high-income consumers.
Boo-effing-hoo. Go buy a Zune.
Open systems aren't better because they're open. Content, ease of use, and "it" factor are what make consumer electronics go -- not open standards.
That's the one thing I love to hate. USB powered sub = worst idea ever. I've had more obscure problems with mine than I'd like to care, but it sure can sound nice when it works right. Mine started to make a high pitched noise now whenever it's plugged in, so I retired it.
And again, can't wait to see LEOPARD'S NEW UI/FINDER.....
There have been rumors of using the Nintendo DS's touch capabilities and linking that with the Nintendo Wii in future games...
I wonder if you can do that with the iPhone and Apple TV and a Big HDTV?