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hey, you're trying to use logic and reasoning in a microsoft bashing thread. shame on you!
 
I don't think you could be much later with these screen shots. 4015 is a very old build. 4074 is the new build, and there have been others in between. :rolleyes: I installed it yesterday, still not up to much, but then you can hardly expect it to be, it's still not even alpha build yet afaik, let alone beta or GM.
 
SiliconAddict said:
This happens in every industry on the planet. Heck I like Special K’s strawberry cereal. So do a lot of people apparently because they were flying off the shelves. Whoever makes cheerios copied the idea and created banana and strawberry Cheerios less then a month later. This is business. Companies copy companies. Is it a forgone conclusion that at some point MS is going to copy Expose? I’m betting yes. Get pissed. Get over it. And move on.

SiliconAddict, thank you for being a sound voice of reason among all the elitism and prejudice that oozes off of these boards sometimes. And as far as Longhorn is concerned, I"m somewhat hyped up on it. I can't wait for the next iteration of Windows or OS X for that matter. As long as they keep doing what they're doing I'm happy. Geez, most of the people on these boards nitpick so much it's like they're blind to some of the good points. wtf. talk about biased.
 
why such a big clock? what i heard was the developers were straining their eyes too much trying to see the time it took internet explorer to launch while grabbing a cup of coffee across the room.

can someone tell me what running IE on .net would mean, and if it has anything to do with the movement toward controlling content on users computers like palladium or whatever it was called. thanks
 
evilsprung said:
SiliconAddict, thank you for being a sound voice of reason among all the elitism and prejudice that oozes off of these boards sometimes. And as far as Longhorn is concerned, I"m somewhat hyped up on it. I can't wait for the next iteration of Windows or OS X for that matter. As long as they keep doing what they're doing I'm happy. Geez, most of the people on these boards nitpick so much it's like they're blind to some of the good points. wtf. talk about biased.

well i was only saying the clock was huge! clearly microsoft users dont have good eyesight otherwise they would see what a pile of rubbish they used. i use windows xp, 2000, 98 and 95 on a regular basis as well as osx and os x is better than all of those put together.
 
russed said:
well i was only saying the clock was huge! clearly microsoft users dont have good eyesight otherwise they would see what a pile of rubbish they used. i use windows xp, 2000, 98 and 95 on a regular basis as well as osx and os x is better than all of those put together.

ah nah man i wasn't talking about you directly, just the more elitist minded people. I mean i joined these boards to learn more about macs and get tips, but then when ever intel, bill gates, microsoft, or windows comes up, all this bashing and whining comes out. Really turns me off to the community.
 
evilsprung said:
ah nah man i wasn't talking about you directly, just the more elitist minded people. I mean i joined these boards to learn more about macs and get tips, but then when ever intel, bill gates, microsoft, or windows comes up, all this bashing and whining comes out. Really turns me off to the community.

yeh i know but i thought i would mention the large clock again, you have to admit it is rather large!
 
russed said:
yeh i know but i thought i would mention the large clock again, you have to admit it is rather large!

heh, i guess. But that might be a good thing. I run my res at 1280 x 1024. It would be sweet to have a desktop larger than that. Maybe a big clock would be helpful so i dont have to squit at the task tray.
 
Way off topic

Gotta love the Google ads for Texas Longhorn cattle at the bottom of this thread.
 
phampton81 said:
why such a big clock?

I think the clock is a snap-in feature. You can remove it altogether and add your own clock to the bar. I didn't get to play with that bar to much on last year's early alpha but from what I've read the bar is HIGHLY customizable. I think MS is going for a do it yourself approach to the GUI with more integrated themeing and a more customizable tool/tasks bar. As for the big clock. At this point its not being created for the average user. Longhorn alpha CD's are being pumped out for developers who only interest is to get their software working on it. I doubt MS is focusing on the ascetics of the OS at this point. Wait and see what happens.

But again I was dinking around with a VERY early alpha where the bar had actual video glitches on it.

All I know is this. Longhorn or Tiger or whatever OS Apple comes out with next. The next 3-4 years are going to be a fantastic trip for geeks like me. I can currently run Windows alphas but I'm SOL for Mac Betas. I HAVE to get myself a Mac sometime this year. Dang it Apple give me my G5 PowerBook!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WAH!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Silicon addict's signature says:
“MICROSOFT: Where do you want to go today? APPLE: Where do you want to go tomorrow? LINUX: Are you coming or what?”

IMHO, I'd reckon:

MICROSOFT: Where'd everybody go?!
APPLE: Where do you want to go tomorrow... today?
LINUX: Wait, I'm coming too!
or
LINUX: We'll take you where ever you want to go... as long as you can build the vehicle.
 
My opinions:

Ugly fonts. They should come up with something else and get away from the defaults.

Is this really going to be coming out in 2.5 years? Win XP was released in 2001, I might remind y'all.

Good desktop picture.

Space hogging sidebar.

(Subjective) Ugly interface.

Some things never change: http://www.winsupersite.com/images/reviews/4015_151.png

Honestly, I really think MSFT has alot of work to do. I wish them some amount of good luck, but I really do believe Apple will continue to make the superior OS and either Apple will overtake them or everything will be.... well, like it is now once this OS is released.

Just my thoughts.

All my best,
JPGk
 
phampton81 said:
can someone tell me what running IE on .net would mean, and if it has anything to do with the movement toward controlling content on users computers like palladium or whatever it was called. thanks

if you are refering to the explorer.exe crash screen shot, thats not IE (IE is iexplorer.exe) explorer (atleast in win 9x and XP) is the windows shell (like aqua I suppose), and 'finder'.
but what with the windows shell all being there in that screen shot explorer must just be the 'finder' in longhorn...
 
SiliconAddict said:
Yah that you are wrong. Everyone';s ****canning Longhorn. Never mind the fact its at least 2.5 DAMN years away from being done and you know NOTHING about the OS itself. How many of you have run alpha versions of it?
Someone want to tell me how good OS X was 2 years before it was originally released?

MacOS X was pretty kick-ass in 1992. Only it was called NeXTstep then. And it made a 33MHz 68040 feel pretty slow. ;-)

Cheers,


Crikey
 
does anyone have screenshots of the CURRENT longhorn test OS? these screens are so old it's not even funny, i think i saw these back in 2001-2. I'd like to see the new UI Avalon or Glass or whatever it ends up being called!!! Im excited for this new Windows, even though I doubt more than a handful of the rest of you are. Sure they compete with Apple, but competition can only be a good thing, and I'd like to see some innovation in the UI segment of OS's...the current UI metaphor stems back to Xerox and has hardly changed since.

with the listed system requirements being so high, what are people's thoughts on Longhorn being a fully 3-dimensional GUI? It would take processing power on par with what they've listed to make it happen, but i've seen zero evidence substantiating the idea.
 
BrianKonarsMac said:
and I'd like to see some innovation in the UI segment of OS's...the current UI metaphor stems back to Xerox and has hardly changed since.

aparantly the only inovation is windows moving towards a 'task based' system. if I've got it right this exists in win XP sort of, and I ignore it totally because its awful and go with the 'application based' system which aparantly is horribly out dated and what os x uses

like in win xp if you want to print a file you find the file, right click it, then print, with a mac you open photoshop, find the file, then print.

personally (on win XP) I find the file/launch paint shop pro, then I've found the file by the time psp is open (both take a long time; slow computer, and windows just don't seem very nice for organising files), the I drag the file in to psp where it opens, then after nessacery adjustments to get it to print the right size, I hit ctrl+p
 
i think i've finally figured out what it is i like about OS X and Mac interface in general. the menu bar at the top of the screen. it's not on every window. it changes depending which app window you're looking at. it even changes within the app, depending on what tool you're using or something like that. that's what it is.
 
To be honest a mac zealot, I can't wait for longhorn. does it have what it takes to become a better OS that OS X? I've used the PDC version on on VPC. I'd like to try out the new version with DCE on a good computer with a graphics card.
 
MatMistake said:
like in win xp if you want to print a file you find the file, right click it, then print, with a mac you open photoshop, find the file, then print.

This functionality I believe dates back to W95. It simply passes the file name to the application along with a print command. I never found it to be any quicker than opening and printing - which I preferred since it gave me the chance to verify settings, which from experience, you should always do before printing! So I never used it.

It would be a piece of cake to for Apple to do the same in OSX - but they must feel it's of low value. Which I'd agree. Nothing worse than printing out 50 pages only to find them wrong.

PS With OSX, you can also find the file, ctrl-click, select open and then the app to open with. Then in the app you print. Or double click the file and print after it opens
 
ChrisH3677 said:
PS With OSX, you can also find the file, ctrl-click, select open and then the app to open with. Then in the app you print. Or double click the file and print after it opens
Have you seen how many options that brings up when you have Photoshop installed? Yikes! :eek:
 
Counterfit said:
Have you seen how many options that brings up when you have Photoshop installed? Yikes! :eek:

yes! I had a discussion elsewhere on MacRumors on how to get rid of them. Seems there's a droplets folder somewhere in Photoshop where you can remove the ones you don't want. Mine was a trial version, so i just removed the whole thing.
 
phampton81 said:
can someone tell me what running IE on .net would mean, and if it has anything to do with the movement toward controlling content on users computers like palladium or whatever it was called. thanks

Are you refering to .net as a scripting or server technology?

If scripting... you couldn't run IE on .net, you can view asp.net pages in IE, but I doubt this is what you are talking about.

If server tech.... .net got renamed to Win2003, I work for the UK's largest Win2003 webhost and can confirm that IE runs in exactly the same way on 2003 as it does on XP and 2000.
 
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