Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
btw, what is that "floppy" disc in the my computer picture?? is it like a bendable cd? must be some groundbreaking new technology...

I think it was Slashdot that had an article on Sony's new paper discs, actually. Cheap, as the contain >50% paper, bendable, and hold much, much more date :-D

andy.
 
heres a very detailed review of Longhorn

and really, it doesn't look bad. It had got 3d windows too, which i m aure wd be there in tiger. Just that, we already have most of the features, atleast the 'eyecandy' ones. But it sure looks way better than xp.
 
:eek:
not content with copying apple, microsoft are copying sun

sun's looking glass

longhorn


the only problem with that is that in windows you never run apps in anything other than full screen, apart from maybe explorer (as in window's 'finder', not IE) and I'm not sure that thing would work so well for full screen apps. its kind of like expose isn't needed for windows, yet its really usefull for os x, 'cause of the diffrent windowing systems of the two os's
 
MatMistake said:
:eek:
not content with copying apple, microsoft are copying sun


This is probably how most OS's will look as we continue into the future ;)

Not really copying....just following a trend.
 
dopefiend said:
This is probably how most OS's will look as we continue into the future ;)

Not really copying....just following a trend.


it just sucks that microsoft are making money from other people ideas.
and as the vast majority of people are stupid thay'll think microsoft thought of it all first. like with people saying the os x dock is a copy of the win 9x taskbar, when the taskbar itself is a copy of the NeXT dock...
 
MatMistake said:
:eek:
not content with copying apple, microsoft are copying sun

sun's looking glass

longhorn


the only problem with that is that in windows you never run apps in anything other than full screen, apart from maybe explorer (as in window's 'finder', not IE) and I'm not sure that thing would work so well for full screen apps. its kind of like expose isn't needed for windows, yet its really usefull for os x, 'cause of the diffrent windowing systems of the two os's
Huh? Are you talking about Longhorn or what?
 
Exposé is sorta "3D" except that you can't move the windows forward and backwards in the desktop space. As I understand it, Each OSX window is drawn onto a flat polygon and that polygon is morphed with Exposé or the Genie effect. So if Apple where to include it into Tiger, they'd just have to add another axis and someway to make it functional. I just hope it doesn't get confusing, which can be hard to do with anything manageable in 3d space.

EDIT: oooo, anyone knowtice the new IE?
0,1311,sz=1&i=68949,00.jpg
 
i'm kind of looking forward to seeing what Microsoft can do with Longhorn.

i do kind of like the Carousel View, that could be a very good way of viewing & organizing files because you can see many different levels within seperate folders.

oh yeah, i thing The Register had a story on the minimum requirements of Longhorn... 5-6GHz processor, 2GB RAM, terabyte of storage. :D :p well that is looking ahead to 2005-2006. but still...

also, the new Alt-Tab looks cool, but it would be very easy to make that look bad with cruddy animations etc.

i do hope they slim it down a bit though, there's those massively thick bars at the top of the 'Explorer' windows, and the massive side-bar. i would prefer if Panther didn't have to have the enlarged borders around the Finder windows, and i guess that lots more people will just find Longhorn 'bulky' if something isn't done about that.
 
I would guess that much of the GUI is just a placeholder for future features. While Windows drives me nuts they seems to have a good idea with the idea that a user interface should be task driven. Unfortunately they tend to get in your face about and it, thus reducing all the time saved by any intuitive design. This looks, right now, to be a step back from XP and sorry guys that just wont happen. 3 years from now I have a feeling it will look completely different. What they're working on right now is the guts of the OS and you have to admit that with Windows that's a huge job. The thing is VERY VERY complex.
 
OS X already has that drop shadow 3D feel, just not to the extent of the pic in a post not to far above this one. i find it kinda nice actually, just a hint. i have a feeling a 3D interface might be too distracting, or at least could be distracting. there are already a bunch of people who say they turned off the dock zoom effect because it was bothersome. i really think Apple with Expose and stuff already have quite an elegant solution, and i have a feeling they'll be able to work in other features with this same kind of usefulness, not just for the sake of bells and whistles.

and the task based thing with printing, i've never really tried it, but isn't there a thing called desktop printing where you simply drag the icon of your document on top of an icon representing the printer and it prints? that's the impression i got from it. so essentially all Apple would have to do is add a ctrl click menu command, if i'm right about the desktop thing.
 
1year old screenshots

512ke said:
Latest ugliness:

[Sorry, wrong link - I'll dig up the correct one!]

My apologies - can't find it.

Oh well no loss to the world! It was just to show how great is Panther by comparison...

Previous ugliness:

http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/longhorn_4015.asp

Those screenshots of build 4015 are one year old, the latest build of Longhorn is 4074. The lastest pics of the current UI looks a bit better but sill ugly. Rest assured that the final UI will look (very) different than what MS is currently showing off. The theme they're using for alpha builds is just a placeholder.
 
SiliconAddict said:
Yah that you are wrong. Everyone';s ****canning Longhorn. Never mind the fact its at least 2.5 DAMN years away from being done and you know NOTHING about the OS itself. How many of you have run alpha versions of it?
Someone want to tell me how good OS X was 2 years before it was originally released?

:rolleyes: Hell it took 10.1 to get the OS to a point of being a somewhat decent OS (Even then there are those who only consider 10.2 the real deal.)

Do you think that theme is the final one?!?! It’s an Alpha theme

Look at Windows Whistler (a.k.a XP) in beta form:
http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/whistler_beta1.asp

There are drastic differences from beta to final and that was only 1 year away from release! So please bash all you want on XP, 9x and the like but until Longhorn reaches a milestone of at least release candidate 1 you guys don't have a leg to stand on, on criticizing Longshot.

That being said as has been mentioned before this is a fantastic opportunity for Apple. They know almost exactly what MS is going to include in Longshot. With 2 years notice they can easily beat MS to the punch because unlike MS who has to clean up their security mess they made themselves Apple can focus on features and the GUI. Apple and Linux have at least 2.5 years to eat away at Windows market share. They DAMN well better spend that time wisely because all bets are off when Longhorn comes out.

Ummm....

"Whistler" is exactly like the current XP incarnation except for minor GUI-only differences - at least according to that link you had.
 
Apparently with the new IE you will only be able to go backwards, not forwards. I guess thats nothing new since that how IE has been in comparison to just about every other web browser the last couple of years.

Also the Alt-Tab looks like a lame version of Expose, if you look closely they haven't even got anti-aliasing in(hope their team of "massively" taltented programmers and artists catch that before its released). Whats the point if you cant even see 90% of the contents of the windows other than the top one?

Oh, and I think i finally get the whole WinFS/metadata thing. Apparently its nothing more than what iPhoto and iTunes does for your music and photos. Um, wow. *ZzZ* I'm sure there are many other uses, however I doubt M$ can implement it so it works worth a damn or anything other than those two things. Personally I'd rather use an App like iTunes to work with and organize my music than an Explorer window with pathetic "task-based" sidebars eating my screen real estate and time.
 
titaniumducky said:
Ummm....

"Whistler" is exactly like the current XP incarnation except for minor GUI-only differences - at least according to that link you had.

Really. you have to be blind not to notice the major diff in the themes.


Beta

Final Release

I'm not talking the GUI even though it’s a good bet the final year is when they are going to tweak the GUI. I'm talking the theme here, Jade, that people are complaining about. The theme will most likely go through several revisions, user survey's, etc before its finished and also I would point out once again that we are talking aprox 2.5 years before the final release is completed. Heck 2 weeks before release they could change the theme.
 
On an slightly OT note, I believe that the Whistler Theme is quite popular as a "Classic" visual style these days. In fact, you'd be suprised how many themes out there that use this look (towards the more simplistic, less "rounded" button look).

I use two visual styles that emulate that look from Whistler:
1) Hmm_XP 1.5
2) Watercolor Lite

for you XP users out there...I personally think these are nice once in a while, but I usually find myself going back to Reluna or Souluna otherwise.
 
ifjake said:
and the task based thing with printing, i've never really tried it, but isn't there a thing called desktop printing where you simply drag the icon of your document on top of an icon representing the printer and it prints? that's the impression i got from it. so essentially all Apple would have to do is add a ctrl click menu command, if i'm right about the desktop thing.

I hope that was sarcasm

(unless I've read wrong, you're talking about Apple and not Longhorn, right?)
 

Attachments

  • Untitled-1.jpg
    Untitled-1.jpg
    86.9 KB · Views: 124
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.