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Tiger persuasion

Trowaman said:
Okay, the first set of screen shots I still don't buy. This second set, I may believe. Safari 2.0 seems like a sure call. System prefs, I could see it. Pipeline, I like where this is going. Question though. What is going to knock my socks off to where a regular person is going to want to upgrade?

I do hope for more impressive innovations to
entice yet another upgrade.... :rolleyes:
 
The vault doors become tighter

applekid said:
That is what matters. People keep saying we will be blown away, but we haven't had any profound leaks. Gotta wait for Monday...

First childproof... then Waterproof...
Now Fool Proof ...... Apple is becoming
increasingly more savvy at holding their
cards closer to the chest. Wee shall soon
see...... ;)
 
applekid said:
That is what matters. People keep saying we will be blown away, but we haven't had any profound leaks. Gotta wait for Monday...

Didn't we have this problem with Panther?

I remember the disscussions that went on about the new features for 10.3 and the only thing I remember was a set of screenshots for Piles

I have a good feeling that there is some cool new features :)

(fingers crossed)
 
Darwin said:
Didn't we have this problem with Panther?

I remember the disscussions that went on about the new features for 10.3 and the only thing I remember was a set of screenshots for Piles

I have a good feeling that there is some cool new features :)

(fingers crossed)

I remembered the last set of leaked Panther pics as being the features we later saw.

I remember that Piles screenshot, and that was an easy open-and-shut-case, IMHO.
 
There's also the possibility that Tiger will be a good solid step forward but NOT a must-have. You can then choose not to buy it and wait for 10.5. Nothing wrong with that.

I do hope for more though :)
 
nsb3000 said:
Ya, I am starting to agree. I used to think these were fake, but now I think they are real. If they are real though, why no screen shots of the finder, for example?

If they're real, how come no cease and decist from apple?
 
Localcelebrity said:
I still don't buy it.. apple legal would have stepped in by now if this was real

Not necessarily because if they're real. Apple has managed to keep it secret until two days before the world will know about anyway, secondly Apple certainly is aware that there is always a risk of leaks. OTH, if they're fake, Apple has done even a better job keeping all the new features secret. Either way, with only day to go, Apple already is on the safe side.
 
nsb3000 said:
Ya, I am starting to agree. I used to think these were fake, but now I think they are real. If they are real though, why no screen shots of the finder, for example?

Becuase they ARE FAKE. We have heard rumor that the finder has changed radically. They havent provided any radical shots (dashboard? purrrrlease) becuase they don't have the imagination to work up something to replace it.
 
Trowaman said:
Okay, the first set of screen shots I still don't buy. This second set, I may believe. Safari 2.0 seems like a sure call. System prefs, I could see it. Pipeline, I like where this is going. Question though. What is going to knock my socks off to where a regular person is going to want to upgrade?

I think that a "pipeline" feature would most likely have a nodal based connection system like "node view' in Shake or "graphical view" in DVDSP3. That would make the most sense to people in terms of connecting taks.
 
I believe both first and this screenshots are true, chances someone made good fakes like this are extremely low.
Too bad there aren't any revolutionary changes in OS...
 
applekid said:
I remembered the last set of leaked Panther pics as being the features we later saw.

I remember that Piles screenshot, and that was an easy open-and-shut-case, IMHO.

There were in fact screen shots that were latter confirmed to be real released a few days before the WWDC last year.
 
Localcelebrity said:
I still don't buy it.. apple legal would have stepped in by now if this was real

This is the only thing that makes me think they still might be fake. However, if Apple legal did step in, that would just confirm to all of us that they were real, so what's the point? They probably figure it is better just to wait until tomorrow so its a non-issue.
 
It seems more likely these are not fake, although I hope we haven't seen the big news yet. It seems these people love playing with us, why do they just send a safari about box that is a lot easier to fake than a whole screenshot with lots going on and the safari about box.

I guess we'll know soon, I can't wait
 
People keep talking about About-Boxes, as if it was something that counted. To put that straight: Anyone having XCode can make an About-Box within 3 Seconds. A real one, only with fake text. Indistuingishable from the real stuff.

However, what I kinda wonder about is the title bar of system preferences. Ever seen something like that? Just like in Metal, there is no true title bar anymore, the title goes directly into the window. Maybe Apple would even do that, but if they did, why do the About-Boxes still have the normal title bar? Seems strange to me.

And about the highlights in System Preferences: That is anything but something that Apple would do, at least that Apple would do until now. Imagine you enter something and two panes are highlighted. Yes, we all love guesswork, don't we? And this effect... Apple does not use any effect similar to this anywhere in the OS. Sure, they could introduce it, but I doubt it.

A last thing about System Preferences: The navigate-buttons are displayed sunken, just like in metal-windows (Safari, Finder). Appears funny to me.

All in all, I highly doubt that these or at least, some of these, show the real thing.
 
This is the DEFINING reason to prove they are real....

After I look at each screen cap, I actually click on the screen cap to close the "About Box" window. I can't help it.

Ok I'm a dunce, but tell me YOU didn't do it too, c'mon...admit it.
 
The build number in Safari's about box is the one I saw one my webserver last week surfing in via an Apple IP (I believe).

So there is some credibility there at least as far as Safari goes in my mind.

I usually see newer Safari builds as we get closer to a new release of either Safari itself or Mac OS X updates/releases all on Apple IPs.

So unless someone went to an obscure website with a spoofed Apple IP and this exact Safari build number, this aspect of the 10.4 rumor is accurate.
 
Sayer said:
The build number in Safari's about box is the one I saw one my webserver last week surfing in via an Apple IP (I believe).

So there is some credibility there at least as far as Safari goes in my mind.

I usually see newer Safari builds as we get closer to a new release of either Safari itself or Mac OS X updates/releases all on Apple IPs.

So unless someone went to an obscure website with a spoofed Apple IP and this exact Safari build number, this aspect of the 10.4 rumor is accurate.

Could you please give some confirmation, e.g. post a part of your log files or point us to an URL where we can see them directly?
 
Sayer said:
The build number in Safari's about box is the one I saw one my webserver last week surfing in via an Apple IP (I believe).

So there is some credibility there at least as far as Safari goes in my mind.

I usually see newer Safari builds as we get closer to a new release of either Safari itself or Mac OS X updates/releases all on Apple IPs.

So unless someone went to an obscure website with a spoofed Apple IP and this exact Safari build number, this aspect of the 10.4 rumor is accurate.

I'm not commenting whether I think these are fake or not, but you've ignored a few much more plausible possibilities.

First, someone who wanted to plant fake Safari version numbers might naturally start by going to the websites of Macrumors members. Your public link doesn't go to your obscure website, but the pictures of your daughters posted on your blog do. Anybody looking at your blog is producing entries in the access log of your site.

Second, it isn't necessary to spoof an Apple address. Apple's a big company. They look at the rumor sites just like we do. Apparently they get a kick out of it, or at least they did back in the day of the really wacky rumors. I wouldn't be surprised to find fake rumors started by Apple employees just to tweak forumgoers.

Third, if the entry you saw in your logs was a legitimate entry from an actual Apple employee using an unreleased version of Safari, then that surfer doubtless surfs other web sites as well. If you saw this version number in your access log, then someone else (someone interested in scamming) might have seen it in their access logs.

Fourth, hey, it could be real. Who knows? I'm just saying it's not quite the either/or situation you stated. I don't think it matters so much now. We'll all know tomorrow.
 
broken_keyboard said:
- there is no way to just type in directly the dir you want to go to, you have to search or browse.
Menu Go/Go to folder... or Command+Shift+G
- the border is too fat - the thick grey border makes the controls domniate instead of the files themselves, and the actual files should be the focus.
You may like them or you may not, but they are supposed to be there so you can easily move the window around.
- there should be an easy way, no matter what program you are in, to get a finder window up. e.g. shift-click on the finder face in the doc open a new window, instead of popping existing to front.
That is a matter of preference. I can see how it is useful considering how open/save accept dragging items from the Finder onto them, and I have been a Windows user for a long time, and I was indeed too used to Windows+E (opens up Windows' Explorer no matter what app you are in). I have grown not to miss it, though, after discovering LaunchBar, but I see your point. In any case, LaunchBar's not part of the system, so whatever.
those default bllue folder icons, they are so bad.
What would be better? Yellow? ^_^ In any case, think about what you just said? Is that one of the reasons you would upgrade? Is that what you hope Apple is working on? Being such a subjective thing, you cannot really hope Apple is going to please everyone (i.e. you) with all the cosmetic decisions, so if they are so annoying to you, you have alternatives (candybar at iconfactory.com).
 
nagromme said:
There's also the possibility that Tiger will be a good solid step forward but NOT a must-have. You can then choose not to buy it and wait for 10.5. Nothing wrong with that.
Well, untll your favorite app adds a must-have feature that only works with 10.4. :)
 
Tiger Screen shots

By chance did anyone grab thoes images off the site before the apple legal team came in and had them removed, and does anyone know a link to download them?
 
This rumor can't be true. Apple would never release a version 10.4 because we also know the significance of "10.4" in ancient Norweigan culture now don't we?
 
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