Desktop variants along with Z77, Z75, H77 and B75 should still be slotted for April. This gives AMD a chance to step up with Trinity 17/25/35/45W.
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Not good Intel -- recall why Apple went Intel in the first place. Hear that noise...it's an ARM knocking down the door.
They can delay the Xeons too since Ive ordered a half-dozen Mac Pro's last week
I like a little space between my purchase and next release
Like thatll make me feel better
LOL!
Ouch, Intel e5 16XX Xeons are due to release on march 6
You lived all your life without this new chip and if it never came you'd buy whatever fits your needs best now.
Realistically end of June may become end of whatever, plus why be a guinea
pig for an unproven chip?
So, why wait and believe the Intel guy and possibly be disappointed if end of June doesn't happen? The current MBP's are fine machines.
Buy one, get Applecare for 3 years and when you decide the new chips have been used for a while and we know the failure rate etc. sell it and upgrade to the latest for a small price.
Mac's hold their values really well.
That or a Bulldozer - hoping for the latter!
Of I go dreaming of my own Hackintosh again...
I don't see why this really matters all that much. Apple can now wait till Mountain Lion is ready and ship everything at the same time in July or early August for the back to school timeframe.
For those that are willing to wait it should be a nice upgrade over Sandy Bridge, and could mark the arrival of USB 3 on Macs.
For those that are willing to wait it should be a nice upgrade over Sandy Bridge, and could mark the arrival of USB 3 on Macs.
Intel is nothing to brag about, they are overpriced anyway, AMD could get both the chip and GPU win if they can fix their Heat and power issues, then it would be a good match, Intel has always frustrated me, because they are not really as fast as they claim to be, just accepted as a main CPU for most companies, but not really the best in class.
Oh bollocks, I think I sold my laptop in preparation for a new one little early lol
Or maybe Apple will get the jump on the competition like in the past.
Or maybe Apple will get the jump on the competition like in the past.
The problem with the new manufacturing process is likely that there is no problem at all, it's coming along wonderfully and Intel has no reason to rush its release and cannibalize their SB line of processors which are already wiping the floor with what AMD has in every metric imaginable.
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You have obviously no idea what you are talking about. Ever since C2D intel has had a clear advantage. AMD is hopefully now catching up again.
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You have obviously no idea what you are talking about. Ever since C2D intel has had a clear advantage. AMD is hopefully now catching up again.
Err they only make 21.5-inch and 27-inch iMacs... The 24-inch was discontinued a while ago unless there's something I'm missing...
Reviews of the Bulldozer chips were pretty bad though...That or a Bulldozer - hoping for the latter!
Of I go dreaming of my own Hackintosh again...
I thought I read somewhere that AMD stated that it basically cannot compete directly with Intel. Not sure what their cash flow is like, but Intel can easily outspend them on R&D. Having said that, I also obviously wish for AMD to succeed. Intel could use a strong competitor.
what?!
My 17" PowerBook G4 has served me very well and the old work horse is declining to the point that it getting annoying to work on. Much like these "on again, off again" posts! Another one of these and I'll probably have to make the jump and purchase the current model.
My 17" PowerBook G4 has served me very well and the old work horse is declining to the point that it getting annoying to work on. Much like these "on again, off again" posts! Another one of these and I'll probably have to make the jump and purchase the current model.
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Bit of a stretch on that analogy.
IBM failed to produce a mobile G5 chip for years and PPC and x86 never were quite far apart in the performance arena to begin with.
Constrast this with a few months of delay from Intel on the latest generation with ARM nowhere near the performance of current x86 chips, much less Ivy Bridge.
If ARM manages to Knock down the door, they'll get booted out and arrested for trespassing at this point.
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What do mobile Ivy Bridge chips have to do with the Mac Pro which is waiting on Sandy Bridge E chips ?
Reviews of the Bulldozer chips were pretty bad though...
Yea, I know. But that is because AMD rushed it and the mentioned heat issues (I believe resulting from faulty BIOS > power save & voltage) and the performance issues (due to lack of kernel support) are being worked on. Somewhere, I read that Microsoft and AMD are working on an improvement because the hardware clearly can bring it on - it is just that on different levels, the software is not supporting it, yet! Partially, this is also a problem with mainboard producers not fixing their BIOS etc. It clearly is a mess for the customers. But that is what you get for being an early adopter. I can remember that Intel had a problem with their southbridge when combined with a SoundBlaster soundcard back in the days (I was one of the lucky ones with that IRQ conflict). Or do you remember the first Pentium which was calculating wrong (I believe it was float)? All these things got patched eventually. None of that resulted in replacement of hardware. I just hope and expect that AMD and Microsoft and all the third party hardware producers get a grasp on it and fix the issue. Bulldozer is a powerhouse and once all the software flaws are gone, I think it has great potential.
If you look at an Apple perspective: There would be no problem. Since Apple offers a closed system on their iMac platform, their BOIS is customized specifically for their hardware and so is the kernel. All these third party problems and fixing after problems occurred "out there" would not happen.
AMD can compete with Intel, but not in the upper class of consumer market. AMD offers very competitive products for low-end and server markets. Intel offers the best clock for clock, core for core performance and performance per watt ratio, which are the most important in higher-end consumer market (limited multithreading support so four fast cores is better than eight slow cores - and laptops have limited cooling and batter so being efficient is crucial). Low-end is all about price and performance, but server market is more interesting due to better multithreading supports. AMD seems to play the " the more cores, the better" game which isn't beneficial in the consumer market but provides good results in the enterprise world.