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wdlove said:
I have been waiting for a Power Mac G5 since before the original announcement. Each one has had problems, so I hope that this will be the gold master of the Power Mac G5.

I've watched your posts on the G5 over the past couple of years and they've expressed my own feelings almost exactly. I also have been waiting the best part of 2 years to buy. Now, finally, it looks as though it's time to crack open the wallet!

The next couple of weeks (or months at worst) will be very exciting. Let's hope the rev. C's are all we're hoping for.
 
Wow, It's about time.
I hope it's true!
Hopefully is a great upgrade. We deserve a kick ass machine because we waited so long.
 
eMac?

might steve also announce the G5 eMac at NAB? it's been almost a year to the day (according to the buyer's guide) since a revision. the eMac is more in my price range.
 
iThink that emacs will get the 512 ram and 1.5ghz g4s but no new vid card. itll happen soon. iMacs will got up to 2 ghz and 9600s along w/512. PMs could be 2.8 or 3.5. WHO KNOWS????? :confused:
 
I'm extremely interested in getting a PowerMac... but I'm going to have to go portable for the time being (Powerbook).
 
appleface said:
might steve also announce the G5 eMac at NAB? it's been almost a year to the day (according to the buyer's guide) since a revision. the eMac is more in my price range.
The eMac will be a quiet Tuesday morning announcement. It's not a machine that people at NAB would really get excited about.

After a bit of thought, I think what we might see is the various machies get upgraded starting in May so they can ship with Tiger. The PowerMac will be announced at/for NAB, but may not ship until it can come installed with Tiger.
 
CmdrLaForge said:
Unfortunatly the report says no G5 PB this year. Can it be that the update late Jan will be the only PB update this year ? That we have to wait for new PBs until Jan 06 ? I don't hope so. But lately it looks like the update cycles are getting longer and longer and waiting about a year for new models is nothing special.
Freescale was supposedly working on a dual-core G4... I guess its possible they could put that in the PB to buy themselves time... You'd have to hope they included something like Intel's Speedstep tech to slow the cores (or even stop one of them) if there was no load to conserve power though...

I think folks would be disappointed if they "only" did that... but it would still be like an 80% perf increase for the same clock speed, so not a total disaster by any means
 
for the last couple of Years, Apple has been releasing products on tuesdays, I suspect that the 19th, during NAB is when the New PM will be realeased. followed 2 weeks later by updated iMac's, then 2 weeks later by eMac's and finally by the begining weeks of June, the iBook. all this just in time for the summer and back to school. :cool:
 
patseguin said:
aethier said:
has anyone seen the reviews on the Pentium D, and Pentium Extreme Edition (both dual core)

i must say they are quite impressive
That's nice. Do they run OS X? ;)
Did you miss the point? I think aethier is pointing out that dual core processors have alot to offer.

I for one can't wait for dual dual-core G5 Power Macs. :eek:

-rich
 
Panther said:
Freescale was supposedly working on a dual-core G4... I guess its possible they could put that in the PB to buy themselves time... You'd have to hope they included something like Intel's Speedstep tech to slow the cores (or even stop one of them) if there was no load to conserve power though...

I think folks would be disappointed if they "only" did that... but it would still be like an 80% perf increase for the same clock speed, so not a total disaster by any means

True, Freescale (a.k.a Motorola as in G4) has announced that they are working on a dual-core G4-like processor (it's a major upgrade with lots of improvements -- the core, called an e600, will also be used in the single-core MPC7448 which some expect will be used in the next significant update to the Mac mini). However, the dual-core e600s aren't scheduled to sample until late this year and that would mean that products using the dual-core e600 would most likely not ship until the first half of 2006. However, the single-core version (MPC7448) should ship this summer (Mac mini update please).
 
My Problem.

Here is the bottom line for me:


If the PowerMacs get Blu-ray, I'll buy one.

If the iMacs get HD, I'll buy one.


If niether or both happen, I'll be at a loss. :confused:
 
Powermacs have a real possibility of being upgraded this month. Apple always has a trick or five up its sleeve, you all know that ;) . I can easily see them upgrading PMs this month, despite some of your reasonings for "saving" something. In fact, I am pretty positive they would not save a long needed update for that reason and instead, blow everyone out of the water with a very awesome surprise that not many thought of.

PS this is my first macrumors post...woot.
 
Dont Hurt Me said:
1 Year between updates is a joke when tech is moving so fast.

But wasn't surprisingly slow tech (esp. proc development) part of the problem? I'm sure we all remember Steve's "3.0ghz" comment, but the problem was on the developmental, not the implementing, side of things.

Apple can't upgrade to vaporware.


Lethal
 
For what it is worth...

I too am ready for the purchase. I contacted the reseller I always buy from. (I send them a lot of business.) Anyway, for what it is worth, they do not know anything about any new Powermac updates. I know there is a limit to what they say, but they always take care of me so to speak. I just hope they are wrong this time. :(
 
nospleen said:
I too am ready for the purchase. I contacted the reseller I always buy from. (I send them a lot of business.) Anyway, for what it is worth, they do not know anything about any new Powermac updates. I know there is a limit to what they say, but they always take care of me so to speak. I just hope they are wrong this time. :(

I wonder if that may be because of the legal action and rumor-site attitude recently adopted by Apple? It wouldn't surprise me if they had tightened up security and also reminded licensed resellers of their obligations!
 
nospleen said:
I too am ready for the purchase. I contacted the reseller I always buy from. (I send them a lot of business.) Anyway, for what it is worth, they do not know anything about any new Powermac updates. I know there is a limit to what they say, but they always take care of me so to speak. I just hope they are wrong this time. :(

Resellers wouldn't be the best of sources. Friends who work at corporate, now those are sources.
 
As for new and significantly updated Power Mac announcements at NAB, I've lost my optimism on that (a month ago I was hopeful, now I'm doubtful).

The link about the Apple event on Sunday is interesting. But, I agree, that will most likely be software only. More worrisome (at NAB) is that it appears that there are no other keynotes, sessions, or events scheduled that will be lead by Apple. If you look at the published list of keynotes and special events it is all Intel, AMD, Microsoft, HP, and Dell. And none of those speakers are likely to step aside and allow anyone from Apple to take the microphone or even mention new Power Macs. Adobe is leading one Super Session (Video, the Next Wave in Publishing), but there are no Apple representatives scheduled for that discussion either (it's Intel, Microsoft, HP, Dell, and Sony). Frankly, it appears that Apple was offered little opportunity to influence this year's NAB, or they -- for some reason -- decided not to participate in any of the keynotes and sessions.

I did find that Frank Casanova is on the panel covering the mobile media convergence -- wouldn't it be a "hoot" if he only talked about iTunes and the iPod? Actually, I expect that he will talk about H.264 video, that's more in line with his position at Apple.

http://www.nabshow.com/sessiondetail.asp?id=1202921

I'm sure Apple will have a good presence at NAB (they appear to have one of the larger spaces in the multi-media hall) and they will almost certainly make some software announcements at their Sunday event, but it looks to me that this year's NAB might turn out to be a big bust as far as new Apple hardware. At least, that's my current thinking.

One possibility, Apple decided to keep a low official profile at NAB because they wanted to surprise everyone with a blockbuster set of new hardware and software. It they were a highly visible sponsor and official participate in many NAB events that might cause some conflicts with the other sponsors. So, maybe Steve Jobs is planing a big "sneak" attack. They've sort of done that before with Final Cut Pro and Motion. However, if they introduced dual-core G5s (970MPs) and/or twin-processor, dual-core G5s (twin 970MPs, four cores per Power Mac) then they might just be able to scoop Intel and AMD. I suspect that Dell will introduce dual-core Pentium systems at NAB, so Apple has to do something at NAB is they want to be considered first to deliver dual-core systems. But, again, I think 970MPs are unlikely to be introduced at NAB (or anytime soon for that matter).

As for a Blu-ray product introduction from Apple, I think that is highly unlikely.
 
Hopefully this rumor is true and if indeed it is, I have a funny feeling that they'll ship it at least a few weeks later :p Updating Powemacs almost 12 months in between is very disappointing indeed. :mad:
 
toontra said:
I wonder if that may be because of the legal action and rumor-site attitude recently adopted by Apple? It wouldn't surprise me if they had tightened up security and also reminded licensed resellers of their obligations!

I really hope that is the case. I am ready to go, but if they are going to be announced next week, then I will wait. But, if they are not going to announce them until June, then I would prefer to buy now. Either way, they probably will not ship until September. :D
 
toontra said:
I also have been waiting the best part of 2 years to buy

Add another. I have a DP 1 GHz G4 (MDD) and have been nearly swayed by the 2.5 GHz G5 on many occasions....but still, I wait.
 
PCI Express

As much as I'd like to see four processor cores, I'm more interested in core improvements (no punn intended).

For me, such things as PCI Express and a fast FSB are more meaningful.

Fingers crossed,

~iGuy
 
I've been thinking about this, and it seems real enough.

First, Intel introduces a dual-core x86 chip.

Second, the last time any ground-breaking chip work on the G5 platform went on was almost two years ago in June. Yes, we have had a one-time bump (2.5), but nothing ground-breaking, and that was a year ago at WWDC (and yes, I know it did not ship for much longer after).

I guess this means IBM has had a long time to work on these new sets of chips. I cannot imagine that Apple, being in the light as it is these days, would introduce a mild speed bump to their flagship machine.

They need to keep their name in the news, and this is certainly a way to do it (along with service their creative pros who need the raw power).

I hope we get something big, the PowerMac line is stale, IMHO, and I'll be ready to retire the G4 MDD at the end of the year as my last business purchase of the year. :D
 
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