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Rife with so many of the 'classic' arguments
A lot of people, or a lot of people that hang out on sites like this. Important distinction since sites like this only make up maybe 5% of the iPhone buyers. The other 95% could be fine with those tiny iPhones.
Maybe, maybe not. In truth it's more in Apple's best interest to make a reliable phone with stable software that is worth the money folks spend on it and doesn't have them in the stores every other day because something is wrong.
Many folks, not just on sites like this, will care more about a phone that works than the size. Cause non geeks are just funny like that.
ah yes, the anti 'steve would never do that'. guess what, that argument is typical invalid and so is the 'that was steve's way'. While yes it is on record that Steve told Timmy not to get to worked up with 'how would i do it' it is possible that even taking Steve out of the argument, Tim still likes the way they are doing things and thinks it is the right way.
Which means maybe there won't be even one larger phone this year, much less two. Or next year, or the year after that. Because
has never been Apple's reason for being. Not under Steve or Tim. That is one thing that has carried over quite clearly because it is one of the things they agreed on. This is NOT a zero sum game. Samsung's win is NOT Apple's loss and trying to beat the other teams isn't the way to win in this game. People outside of sites like this don't buy phones, tablets etc because one side spec wanks higher than all the rest.
If one can make a solid argument that a whatever size phone is a better experience for all users then we might see it. But if the only argument is 'Apple MUST make a 5.5" phone cause Samsung has one and Apple needs to beat Samsung' then it is not going to happen. And the truth is that even with their tiny phone, Apple might still beat Samsung in profits, perhaps even sales (if one looks at end user and not channel sales).
A lot of people, or a lot of people that hang out on sites like this. Important distinction since sites like this only make up maybe 5% of the iPhone buyers. The other 95% could be fine with those tiny iPhones.
Maybe, maybe not. In truth it's more in Apple's best interest to make a reliable phone with stable software that is worth the money folks spend on it and doesn't have them in the stores every other day because something is wrong.
Many folks, not just on sites like this, will care more about a phone that works than the size. Cause non geeks are just funny like that.
ah yes, the anti 'steve would never do that'. guess what, that argument is typical invalid and so is the 'that was steve's way'. While yes it is on record that Steve told Timmy not to get to worked up with 'how would i do it' it is possible that even taking Steve out of the argument, Tim still likes the way they are doing things and thinks it is the right way.
Which means maybe there won't be even one larger phone this year, much less two. Or next year, or the year after that. Because
has never been Apple's reason for being. Not under Steve or Tim. That is one thing that has carried over quite clearly because it is one of the things they agreed on. This is NOT a zero sum game. Samsung's win is NOT Apple's loss and trying to beat the other teams isn't the way to win in this game. People outside of sites like this don't buy phones, tablets etc because one side spec wanks higher than all the rest.
If one can make a solid argument that a whatever size phone is a better experience for all users then we might see it. But if the only argument is 'Apple MUST make a 5.5" phone cause Samsung has one and Apple needs to beat Samsung' then it is not going to happen. And the truth is that even with their tiny phone, Apple might still beat Samsung in profits, perhaps even sales (if one looks at end user and not channel sales).
How in the world did you get so many up Votes!? Has no one thought that some people might want more screen size but don't want to pay more money? These are PHONES we're talking about. Not computers.
I would like to hope that a protruding camera is required because of optical stabilizing elements but on the other hand other phone makers (like LG) have managed to implement OIS without a protruding lens. My guess, though, would be that Apple is going the iPod Touch route and keeping the phone very thin.
Personally I think that the protruding camera on the iPods don't look bad.
Form (at least partially) over function, though, when I think of the limited battery capacity.
Maybe they should protrude the battery as well
Personally I think that the protruding camera on the iPods don't look bad.
Form (at least partially) over function, though, when I think of the limited battery capacity.
Maybe they should protrude the battery as well
I said the same thing to a friend. What if there is no 5.5" iPhone and it's actually a revamp of the iPod Touch
To double down is to make a quick side bet in situations when it is advantageous to do so.
Since it's no secret that Apple is going to release a new phone this year (they've done so every year since the first one), this is not one of those situations.
What happened to the commitment? It's being applied in areas where you don't know what Apple is planning to do, and where it's in their interest to keep you in the dark. All these rumors about the iPhone are bait to keep your attention on the obvious stuff, while they quietly work on the secret stuff; and you're falling for it.
you don't think, but what you think isn't the same as what is actually true.
We'll know in a few weeks
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If there's no 5.5", then Apple left that revenue & profit for Android competitors for up to another year. Why? For apparently no good reason as tradition, one-sizes-fits-all mentalities, and so on don't trump profit maximization. Those who are expecting to buy a 5.5" may not choose to step down to a 4.7", so there is risk that those people will buy from competitors. Again, why? No good reason. Apple is certainly capable of making multiple-screen-size models of products, as evidenced by pretty much every other line they sell.
Per sentiment on all of these threads, it appears that many/most of this crowd would not see 5.5" as an "upgrade" in a 6s, so the "holding it back" conspiracy doesn't seem to apply well to a screen size. If anything, that idea would be better supported by launching a 5.5" and then holding the more desirable 4.7" version back for the "s" version.
Best arguments for no 5.5" is the seemingly lack of much in the way of parts leaks, etc relative to the 4.7" rumors. Maybe there's something solid to that or maybe Apple "doubled down" on one knowing it would be impossible to keep both models under tight wraps? Or maybe one is going to come a little later than the other? We'll see soon enough.
Frankly, why do we care? If the 4.7" is the one "we" want and that's the one that seems most likely on the way, why do we care so passionately about wishing away a 5.5"? If the latter is not the one for us, it existing doesn't affect us in any way whatsoever. Yet, in every one of these threads, it's like the idea that there could be a different size than the chosen size is practically criminal.
I have a 27" iMac. It doesn't affect me at all that there are also iMacs with smaller screens for sale. I have a iPad Mini. It doesn't affect me at all that there are larger-screen iPads for sale. I have a 15" Macbook Pro. It doesn't affect me at all that there are other (screen) size Macbook Pros for sale, nor that there are also these whole other laptops call Airs for sale. Yet, when it comes to iPhone, that's different. There can be only one model (and 5s + 5c don't count as two models either). Why does it matter to those who are likely to get the one they want?
It reminds me of the rumors ahead of the iPad Mini rollout. "Absolutely not!" "Steve Jobs said…" Blah, blah, blah. Then, Apple officially rolled out a second size and all that was forgotten, transformed into 1000 threads of "which one should I get?"… which, I suspect, is exactly where this iPhone train is going to end up.
Per sentiment on all of these threads, it appears that many/most of this crowd would not see 5.5" as an "upgrade" in a 6s, so the "holding it back" conspiracy doesn't seem to apply well to a screen size. If anything, that idea would be better supported by launching a 5.5" and then holding the more desirable 4.7" version back for the "s" version.
Best arguments for no 5.5" is the seemingly lack of much in the way of parts leaks, etc relative to the 4.7" rumors. Maybe there's something solid to that or maybe Apple "doubled down" on one knowing it would be impossible to keep both models under tight wraps? Or maybe one is going to come a little later than the other? We'll see soon enough.
Frankly, why do we care? If the 4.7" is the one "we" want and that's the one that seems most likely on the way, why do we care so passionately about wishing away a 5.5"? If the latter is not the one for us, it existing doesn't affect us in any way whatsoever. Yet, in every one of these threads, it's like the idea that there could be a different size than the chosen size is practically criminal.
I have a 27" iMac. It doesn't affect me at all that there are also iMacs with smaller screens for sale. I have a iPad Mini. It doesn't affect me at all that there are larger-screen iPads for sale. I have a 15" Macbook Pro. It doesn't affect me at all that there are other (screen) size Macbook Pros for sale, nor that there are also these whole other laptops call Airs for sale. Yet, when it comes to iPhone, that's different. There can be only one model (and 5s + 5c don't count as two models either). Why does it matter to those who are likely to get the one they want?
It reminds me of the rumors ahead of the iPad Mini rollout. "Absolutely not!" "Steve Jobs said…" Blah, blah, blah. Then, Apple officially rolled out a second size and all that was forgotten, transformed into 1000 threads of "which one should I get?"… which, I suspect, is exactly where this iPhone train is going to end up.
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These phones now days are pretty much computers with a smaller display. And I'm sure there are a ton of people that would be willing to dish out an extra $50 or $100 for a larger display.
I think you may be on to something.
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I don't see it out in the wild here, people are going for big phones.
how do we know it will be in direct contact with the casing? perhaps there will be a thin insulator between them we haven't seen anything assembled
What makes you think this is not going to be a standard moving forward? The iPod touch already has this design
As a photographer, please enlighten us as to whether or not an extra few millimeters is actually enough to "significantly improve" the iPhone's camera. I am merely an amateur photographer so I'm not certain, but it seems to me like if Apple want a "significant" improvement in camera capability on the iPhone, they'd need to do much more than add OIS and a few extra millimeters.
Thoughts?
I like the design myself, I'm already saving for a 5.5 or if it doesn't show a 4.7 some time next year. I'm sick of my big thumbs typing 2 letters at once on this tiny phone.
Technically a phone is a small computer, but we aren't speaking technically. We're thinking about what the average consumer wants.
Simply put:
It makes sense that a larger computer would be more expensive.
It does NOT make sense that a slightly larger phone would be more expensive. Someone might want a larger phone just because they are a big person. On the other hand someone might want a small one because they are small, yet want ll the features.
I can't believe you just said that... PHONES PEOPLE. THESE ARE PHONES. The average consumer doesn't view a phone like they would a computer MUCH LESS a car!
No hd or better screen, protruding camera or the ugly bands on the back...any of this means no buy for me