More Samsung Innovation

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  1. Sevanw, Jul 26, 2015
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    You have no idea how many times I've laid down my phone at the base of my monitor and thought, wireless charging would be great right about now. Well, Sammy has read my mind.

     
  2. MRU, Jul 26, 2015
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    I am sure I remember that there was a monitor years ago that had Some form of wireless charging built into the monitor base stand so the idea has been somewhat developed before whether it was an after-market monitor stand or just a prototype unveiled at something like CES. I definitely remember it though.

    Also I think Asus announced something like this a few months ago (a monitor with QI stand) as well.
     
  3. maflynn Moderator

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    I recall something along those lines as well. Its too bad that now in 2015 we still don't have anything like that. Its a good idea to be sure.
     
  4. jamezr macrumors G3

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    What a great idea! This would be very useful feature to have.
     
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    Handy, but I think it would be even better if it held the phone up at an angle so I could see notifications on it, touch it if need be, etc.
     
  6. I7guy macrumors G5

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    While you can argue it's only a couple of bucks to include the hardware not sure what the use case really is like.

    In my house I'm the only one with a monitor. The rest have laptops, MacBooks and iPads. Sure at work it would be nice.
     
  7. grkm3 macrumors 6502a

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    I guess you don't work in front of a computer. This would of been fantastic for me while I was a loan broker.
     
  8. Sevanw thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Are you kidding me? Lol.
    - User sits in front of computer.
    - User puts phone down on base of monitor.
    - User benefits from wireless charging.

    This feature completely eliminates having an additional device on the desk to plug in. And uses a space that a lot of people use as a resting place for their phones that would otherwise be dead space. Bottom line, this will become a very common feature. Bet on it.
     
  9. epicrayban macrumors 603

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    Wireless charging should be built into everything! Tables. Even if it's an accessory to add to a table. When wireless charging gets good enough to be WiFi-like, it'll be great. We're slowly getting there.

    It is a useful and phenomenal convenience.

    Go Sammy.
     
  10. I7guy macrumors G5

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    No I'm not kidding wondering what the real use case is, however handy it might be.

    What makes much more sense is having wireless charging in my car. Now that is something more useful, imo, than a monitor. But both would be fine and I'm sure the future holds some surprises.
     
  11. jamezr macrumors G3

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    Yep totally agree....even if you area business laptop user you still dock it at work. If your work has monitors with wireless charging built in then no need to have a separate charger for your personal or business phone.
    This a great useful feature! Wireless charging should be built into everything!
     
  12. Abazigal macrumors 604

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    You have no idea how many times I sit down in front of a monitor and my phone either stays in my pocket or is in another room, or in some other location that is not the base of said monitor.

    But I am glad that Samsung has created a feature that at least one person finds useful. :)
     
  13. Sevanw thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Well it's not my fault or Sammy's fault that your device of choice has dated inferior hardware. Obviously this is no use for anyone without wireless charging. But as users, that's the choice we make. We either support companies that advance the tech industry and forces developers to think and become more creative with their software. Or we become apologists for the company that we blindly follow and only make a big deal of hardware features once said company makes it available. I have no idea what phone you use, but just sayin'. :rolleyes:
     
  14. Abazigal macrumors 604

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    In a way, we are all supporting companies which advance tech, just that each company chooses to advance it in a different way. Isn't this what you are doing right now - making a big deal out of a hardware feature a certain company has made available?

    I don't see why you are getting so defensive. By all means get the monitor if you think it is useful. I don't, and that means I would simply be paying a premium for a feature which is useless to me, and so,you won't see me picking one up anytime in the near foreseeable future.
     
  15. gotluck macrumors 603

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    Seriously people would complain about having this feature? Just when you think you've seen it all. :p

    It would be useful in pretty much any business setting. Most people these days use two monitors.
     
  16. I7guy macrumors G5

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    "Blind apologists" talk is the start of where threads get derailed.

    I'm all for new technology but not everyone's use case is the same; ergo my household. Even at work most people who have laptops don't get docking stations.

    So just like a monitors don't have speakers I can't see manufacturers including wireless charging as a default standard. They will be happy to sell you a monitor with wireless charging for more money.
     
  17. The-Real-Deal82 macrumors 601

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    I think it's a good feature and would be nice as a standard just for added choice. I doubt very much it's a costly feature to include, but at this stage will be exclusive therefore earning manufacturers extra cash.

    It would be useful for my works computer as that is the only desktop monitor I actually use. My home computer is a laptop but there is no reason why it couldn't be incorporated into a laptop. These days however I rarely use my phone between 8am and 5pm as I'm busy working, so I use about 15% battery anyway. A useful feature nonetheless.

    Not entirely sure what the OP means by inferior hardware in a response above. That's nothing to do with Samsung monitors? Strange.
     
  18. MRU macrumors demi-god

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    Yes they could in theory incorporate a wireless Qi area in the palmrest area of a laptop. Would be a cool feature.
     
  19. Fernandez21 macrumors 601

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    Yeah, I rarely use a desktop with monintor, and most of the people I know use laptops exclusive. And even the few times I use a desktop, I normally set my phone on the left of the keyboard, putting it under the monitor isn't the ideal place for me as I can't read notifications when they come in and I'd have to reach over the keyboard to get it, though maybe I sit further back from the monitor as most people.

    People overuse the word "innovative" imo. To me, innovation means something that changes our habits and how we live, something like the car, or windows for pc, and the original iPhone are innovative products as they changed our daily lives. Something like this, while a neat and useful feature, isn't innovative imo. Samsung innovation, to me, consists more with what they've done with flash storage and chips.
     
  20. tbayrgs macrumors 603

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    This exactly...well said. I'm not disagreeing that including wireless charging in a monitor would be useful, but innovative? Come on, in theory one could include the necessary hardware in just about anything.

    And if anything, this is classic Samsung...one of the first to add a function, but without thought to whether it's actually a useful design. I wouldn't use this to replace a stand alone charging station or dock because as has been pointed out, it does little good as it's not in a good position to see notifications, etc on the screen without having to pick it up. And I'd be willing to wager that the cost increase to consumers vs. the same monitor without wireless charging would cost noticeably more than the cost of a separate stand alone wireless charger. It's an innovative way to get some more money out of consumers, but that's about it. ;)
     
  21. Sevanw thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Only in an Apple forum can you read that statement about another OEM only. LOOOOOL.. Oh the irony.
     
  22. epicrayban, Jul 27, 2015
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    Never mind words like innovation or whatever. Let's not get bogged down with terms.

    This is just simply cool technology. Anybody who uses wireless charging currently can tell you of its convenience and usefulness. Again, it isn't so much about not having to plug something in (though that is part of what makes it convenient); it's more about always topping off your devices' battery so that you're not in danger of running out.

    Anyone who uses wireless charging can also tell you what it would mean if wireless charging can one day advances to WiFi-like prominence. It's already happening with furniture makers and, naturally, with tech makers. Heck, even Apple patented a form of wireless charging through their iMacs, where you just have to have your device nearby and it'll charge (or something like that). Look it up. It happened.

    We're gonna get there and this is how it -- and technology in general -- gets there. In steps.

    Also, if you don't care for wireless charging, for heaven's sake, you can still use the charging cable! At this point, wireless charging is an optional feature. Not mandatory. If you're uninterested, okay you're uninterested. Thanks for your input. If you don't have a device that can wirelessly charge, okay, continue to happily use the cable; your world isn't going to turn upside down.

    For those that are interested, this is all very cool stuff. We shouldn't get bogged down with wanting to call something innovation. This day and age, that is a loaded word.

    This is just cool stuff and a prelude of even cooler things to come.
     
  23. I7guy, Jul 28, 2015
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    The issue with wireless charging are the limitations. I can charge my iPhone in any room in my house at a cost of $30. If I did the same thing with wireless charging it would be $350.

    As far as you don't have to use it:

    Customer: I want a basic car.
    Sales person: I have a fully loaded car for 10 grand more.
    Customer: I said I wanted a basic car.
    Sales person: sir you don't have to use the extra features.

    It's not like this is a game changer like wifi. This is a minor convenience factor; which is why at least to me I'm like warm. At least with my lighting cable I can use the phone while plugged in.
     
  24. epicrayban, Jul 28, 2015
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    Isn't it nice that certain features are optional?

    Never mind that the iPhone can't do wireless charging anyway and since you've proclaimed you'll never own a non apple device, well, you don't really get to speak on the convenience or inconvenience of wireless charging. You can make an assumption it's inconvenient or you won't like it, sure, but you really don't know. It's one of those things that you won't get until you try it (ie. until Apple does it).

    Maybe you'll come around when and if apple adds it one day. Or not! You might find you don't like it or continue to think it isn't worth it. Shrug. That's the beauty of choice; it's up to you, the individual user.

    Too bad there currently is no choice on the iPhone when it comes to charging.

    Car analogy is only apt if you're assuming nobody in the world will want those features and everyone -- literally everyone -- only wants a basic car. Obviously not true. I rather live in a world where people can get a basic car or a more advanced car depending on what they want. I rather live in a world with choice.

    Your flawed analogy really reveals a certain pettiness and misunderstanding of how the concept of extra features work. The keyword is "extra".

    Not a game changer like WiFi? Hm. Maybe. To be clear I wasn't saying it'll be a game changer like wifi per se; I was merely saying I want wireless charging to get as good as wifi. That is to say, be able to charge even further away from the actual wireless charging mechanism. Again, even apple is thinking about something similar with their imac patent.

    But since we're speaking about wifi, let's imagine opponents of WiFi. What might they say back when WiFi was new and less prominent? Might they say, I rather save money by buying an affordable Ethernet cable and just connecting everybody. Why should I spend $60 dollars or more for a wireless router? Then if I have multiple rooms or a large house, I have to potentially buy an extender. Etc.

    Sound familiar?

    The day wireless charging becomes as provassive as WiFi, we'll see if you stick to your cables or not. What if you're traveling and you want to juice up at a cafe that has wireless charging? Is it easier to walk in and have it get going or is it easier to walk in and find a wall plug? You'll at least always have that choice if you insist on it. So guess you don't have to worry

    Tl;Dr:
    More power to you and your cables. No one is taking that away from you.
     
  25. tbayrgs macrumors 603

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    And only in this subforum will you find comments not mentioning Apple in any way, get turned into a your typical Anti-Apple spin. ;)

    Of course Apple is just as guilty of these types of shenanigans, but this thread isn't about Apple, is it? Try putting the comment in the proper context, and actually call it what it is---Samsung being the first to included some relatively new tech or features, but in their all too common fashion, half baking it. What'a the real world benefit? The consumer likely spends more money to have it integrated into the monitor but loses some functionality, all for what, to free up a USB port or power outlet?

    I love wireless charging, wish all of my devices had it but this implementation diminishes the usability of my device so in my use case, it's not helpful.
     

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