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More Screenshots and a Hands-On of Microsoft Office for Mac 2011
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hate the ribbon, takes up way too much screen space, esp on 13" notebooks.
Bring back the toolbar from Office 2004
Bring back the toolbar from Office 2004
although, i must add that the "Search in Document" feature is pretty darn good, i wonder if it highlights all the finds in yellow.
Although i got used to using Command F to find things, that is much better
Although i got used to using Command F to find things, that is much better
For my purposes I have only two requests for office for mac:
1. a full screen, completely full screen, mode like pages and a number of other wordprocessing programmes. Make it better and allow the user to change the background colour.
2. Much better image handling capabilities for Word. MUCH better. Word has the best grammar and spell checker of all the wps. It is also very good with endnotes/footnotes, but if you have an article to publish and want to demonstrate to the editors how you want the page to look, forget Word. I'd rather eat chalk than have to deal with inserting an image in a text document in Word.
1. a full screen, completely full screen, mode like pages and a number of other wordprocessing programmes. Make it better and allow the user to change the background colour.
2. Much better image handling capabilities for Word. MUCH better. Word has the best grammar and spell checker of all the wps. It is also very good with endnotes/footnotes, but if you have an article to publish and want to demonstrate to the editors how you want the page to look, forget Word. I'd rather eat chalk than have to deal with inserting an image in a text document in Word.
Free advice for Apple
To hope to run MS Office on a Mac makes Macs PC wannabes.
Apple should offer iWork for free with all Macs. Then the question is why pay for trash that is complicated, unfriendly and bulky when you get the good stuff for free?
And to depend on MS is like America hooked on oil. MS hates Macs. What is the point of making fun of MS in Apple ads and then beg them to produce buggy software. I used Microsoft Word for 10 years and it is so unfriendly that I never used much more than File Open and File Close. Pages is usable and friendly.
And lastly, if Macs want to keep users locked in with loyalty, then give them something to be loyal about. MS and Google know that they can rip away a user from Mac MS Office to a PC in a second. Hook them into iWork for free and you'll have loyal Mac users. MS Office is bad bait.
To hope to run MS Office on a Mac makes Macs PC wannabes.
Apple should offer iWork for free with all Macs. Then the question is why pay for trash that is complicated, unfriendly and bulky when you get the good stuff for free?
And to depend on MS is like America hooked on oil. MS hates Macs. What is the point of making fun of MS in Apple ads and then beg them to produce buggy software. I used Microsoft Word for 10 years and it is so unfriendly that I never used much more than File Open and File Close. Pages is usable and friendly.
And lastly, if Macs want to keep users locked in with loyalty, then give them something to be loyal about. MS and Google know that they can rip away a user from Mac MS Office to a PC in a second. Hook them into iWork for free and you'll have loyal Mac users. MS Office is bad bait.
All I hope is that Office 2011 will have better performance than Office 2008.
I do really like the new interface and the fact that they switched to Outlook.
I do really like the new interface and the fact that they switched to Outlook.
PadNotes (TakeNotes) is pretty slick, but it still does not have
The folder/notebook structure that OneNote has. I love the way OneNote is tabbed across the top and side.
bragging about your hand being in the cookie jar, brilliant.
maybe the da after they done with the silly iphone "leak" can knock on your door next.
Please God yes. Entourage is our default mail client at my office. It does funny **** once you start to put thirty thousand e-mails into it's database. I would kill a hooker if it would help me to get this faster.
Without getting into to many details, it is different, better faster, and more reliable.
You can disable the ribbon if you like FYI.
Yeah, that's likely.
This update makes me regret getting the current version of Office last year as I already had iWork and the next Office just seems so much better.
are you insane?! So you want the iPhone on your Mac for an enterprise suite?! No offense but you can suck on that loly pop. There is a VERY good reason why PIM should be a combine application since its already unified and less likely to break in a personal or corporate environment.
Try your suggested layout on a smartphone for purely entering and retrieving data on iPhone vs any of its competitors. Currently this works well in OS X for the Mac but even here its senseless to physically launch the separate applications to get a single or multiple piece of data. Maybe its because I'm completely new to OS X but Mail having Notes when I sync to my smartphone is arcane to me ... I think Calendar should contain Notes/Memos.
The Ribbon isn't all that bad. Its nice to see people trash something they haven't used. The Ribbon on the Mac version is a lot different than the PC version.
Clicking the ribbon tab collapses the ribbon. Hitting the jellybean in the top right hand corner hides the toolbar. You are left with the traditional menu and a lot more screen real estate. Happy now?
I am using the beta (more like a late alpha, to be honest, especially Outlook) and have had every iteration of office since 4.2.1. This is shaping up to be the best so far. 2008 was definitely the worst and a pointless release imho.
I hope I won't regret saying this but I tried Microsoft Office for Macintosh 2011. Don't ask how because it's freaking obvious >.<
Anyway, Outlook is faster than Entourage but it looks and basically acts just like it in my opinion.
Word loads faster.
However, I am uninstalling it and sticking with iWork 09 and here is why.
Word. It loads fast... just as fast as Apple Pages (or I should say launches) but that's where it stops.
It takes forever to load and count up all the pages and words in a simple document. (this one I loaded was 164 pages and 60 thousand something words)
My question is why does it need to calculate this stuff? I understand once but every time you open the document. Plus it takes forever. In Pages you open a document (prepare for Steve Jobs reference) BOOM! It's there. Words counted and all the pages counted. It doesn't even calculate it... it's just there.
Same thing with Office 08. But a plus for people who already know this and aren't annoyed by it, I would say Office 2011 will be a EXCELLENT upgrade.
And if I ever do wind up wanting it, I will buy it and give Microsoft my lunch money.
Thank you that is all.
Anyway, Outlook is faster than Entourage but it looks and basically acts just like it in my opinion.
Word loads faster.
However, I am uninstalling it and sticking with iWork 09 and here is why.
Word. It loads fast... just as fast as Apple Pages (or I should say launches) but that's where it stops.
It takes forever to load and count up all the pages and words in a simple document. (this one I loaded was 164 pages and 60 thousand something words)
My question is why does it need to calculate this stuff? I understand once but every time you open the document. Plus it takes forever. In Pages you open a document (prepare for Steve Jobs reference) BOOM! It's there. Words counted and all the pages counted. It doesn't even calculate it... it's just there.
Same thing with Office 08. But a plus for people who already know this and aren't annoyed by it, I would say Office 2011 will be a EXCELLENT upgrade.
And if I ever do wind up wanting it, I will buy it and give Microsoft my lunch money.
Thank you that is all.
Wow, so far I REALLY like the Office 2011 beta. After playing with it for the last half hour, I will certainly plunk down the ~$150 for the Home & Student Edition when this thing goes retail.
I own a purchased copy of Office: Mac 2008 H&S, so I didn't feel too horrendously bad about "acquiring" a copy of the 2011 beta.
I also have iWork '08, and for any of these office suites I use the word processor about 95% of the time. I have no use for spreadsheets, and little use for presentation software. But I do use a word processor every day, so the word processor is important to me.
First, I just thoroughly enjoy the basic look and feel of Office 2011 beta. I like it for the same reason I like Google's Chrome browser over Safari: Chrome has a warmer feel to it than Safari, with larger and more accessible buttons and better colors. I know this is subjective and intangible, but to me, Word 2011 beta has a much warmer feel than iWork's Pages. I can already tell I'll feel better working in Office 2011 than Pages '08, and feeling better has to count for something...
Just look at how small the basic "home" icons are in Pages (Bold/Underline/Italics - Align Left/Center/Align Right, etc.). I'm happy to give up some screen real estate in exchange for big beautiful icons like those on the Word 2011 ribbon.
And I do think the ribbon is a huge step forward in ease of use. For both Word 2008 and Pages '08, I had to go one or two layers deep into menus to control line spacing between paragraphs. With Word 2011, that function is sitting right there in the Styles Ribbon, so there's no digging; it's just a mouseclick away, and I use that function in almost every document I work with.
So, I'm giving the Office 2011 beta a big thumbs up. Apple does so many things right, and Microsoft does so many things wrong, but I'm not locked in to any mindset and I'll use whichever products work for me, regardless of corporate loyalties.
P.S. The 2011 beta does open almost immediately, whereas my Office 2008 takes maybe five or so seconds...
I own a purchased copy of Office: Mac 2008 H&S, so I didn't feel too horrendously bad about "acquiring" a copy of the 2011 beta.
I also have iWork '08, and for any of these office suites I use the word processor about 95% of the time. I have no use for spreadsheets, and little use for presentation software. But I do use a word processor every day, so the word processor is important to me.
First, I just thoroughly enjoy the basic look and feel of Office 2011 beta. I like it for the same reason I like Google's Chrome browser over Safari: Chrome has a warmer feel to it than Safari, with larger and more accessible buttons and better colors. I know this is subjective and intangible, but to me, Word 2011 beta has a much warmer feel than iWork's Pages. I can already tell I'll feel better working in Office 2011 than Pages '08, and feeling better has to count for something...
Just look at how small the basic "home" icons are in Pages (Bold/Underline/Italics - Align Left/Center/Align Right, etc.). I'm happy to give up some screen real estate in exchange for big beautiful icons like those on the Word 2011 ribbon.
And I do think the ribbon is a huge step forward in ease of use. For both Word 2008 and Pages '08, I had to go one or two layers deep into menus to control line spacing between paragraphs. With Word 2011, that function is sitting right there in the Styles Ribbon, so there's no digging; it's just a mouseclick away, and I use that function in almost every document I work with.
So, I'm giving the Office 2011 beta a big thumbs up. Apple does so many things right, and Microsoft does so many things wrong, but I'm not locked in to any mindset and I'll use whichever products work for me, regardless of corporate loyalties.
P.S. The 2011 beta does open almost immediately, whereas my Office 2008 takes maybe five or so seconds...
You can use the inspector pallette in pages and the formatting palette in word 01/04/08. Then it's just one click as well.
BoyGenius full of it.
BoyGenius shouldn't be using a 5 month old beta they got off a wares site then claiming Outlook appears "like it could use some real work."
I happen to have legitimate access to the current builds of Office 2011 for Mac, and it's vastly improved over what boy genius is "claiming" is some sort of scoop.
The screenshots they are showing are from beta 2 (Which was released about 5 months ago)
What they reviewed, and what is about to launch are two entirely different products. Most of the icons have changed, and much of the rusty UI elements changed.
BoyGenius shouldn't be using a 5 month old beta they got off a wares site then claiming Outlook appears "like it could use some real work."
I happen to have legitimate access to the current builds of Office 2011 for Mac, and it's vastly improved over what boy genius is "claiming" is some sort of scoop.
The screenshots they are showing are from beta 2 (Which was released about 5 months ago)
What they reviewed, and what is about to launch are two entirely different products. Most of the icons have changed, and much of the rusty UI elements changed.
For those of us on Exchange 2007, we have been using the EWS version of entourage for some time. Works quite well actually.
I also can't stand the ribbons when I use Office on my PC. Maybe it's just a matter of getting used to them and I don't use the ribbons enough on the PC to know.
Fortunately, the article says they can be turned off. If properly implemented, this might be the best of both worlds (ribbons available for cross-platform versatility for someone who has to use both platforms and ribbons off for people who only use the Mac and don't like ribbons). The question is whether Microsoft will implement that properly. Fortunately, the Office group has been OK lately. Not GREAT software, but at least it's good software - which wasn't really true a decade ago.
That's nice. More like 15 seconds on mine. But even your 7 seconds to launch an app is too long.
Yes, compatibility is an issue. Someone else said that in their experience pages is about 95% compatible and Numbers is only 50% compatible. I don't have hard facts, but those numbers seem about right.
The problem is that '95%' or '50%' is a useless number. If the functions you use are simple and you never need to open a complicated document, they may be 100% good enough for you. If every document you open has some VBA feature that isn't supported with Numbers, then they're 0% good enough for you.
In very general terms, if you're doing very simplistic word processing (not writing a doctoral thesis or scientific document), Pages might well work for you. Numbers might work if you only do simple financial math, but is likely to get lost on complex scientific simulations.
I need to go back and spend some more time with Pages and Numbers - since most of my documents are not that complex. I really prefer lightweight, simple apps where possible rather than behemoths that do 10,000,000 things, about 99.9% of which I don't care about.
Interesting thought. If you have Wireless Synchronization = ON with Mailbox wins in your Email Reconciliation on the BB ... so long as Entourage is working with Exchange and you have BES it "should" sync. However I've never used, nor supported Entourage with BlackBerry before - only Outlook & Exchange.
Simple ... click View> Ribbon (Ribbon is checkmarked when enabled, clicking it disables it, clicking again enables it).
Can I get a recent build, please?
- I cannot find where to register from any MS site.