Does Jimmy Buffet actually have any other songs? I've only ever heard of that one
and..one of my faves..Cheeseburger in paradise!
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Most overrated band of all time?
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and..one of my faves..Cheeseburger in paradise!
Nah.
Their first album was original and interesting but that was twenty-eight years ago
it's been downhill ever since.I nominate ..
- Barbara Streisand
- Celine Dion
- Whitney Houston
Speaking as someone who remembers those days ...
I find it amusing that almost every "metal-head" on the planet hated both of these groups when they first appeared.
Kiss especially was considered a joke of a band to anyone who was "serious" about metal. People used to throw things at them in some of their first shows. Metallica was considered a poor copy of "real" metal and completely unoriginal. Go to the local library and check the reviews and you will find this is true.
Today they are both fondly remembered in the metal halls of fame as "giants" of the genre, and defended as geniuses.
Marketing anyone?
Nah.
Their first album was original and interesting but that was twenty-eight years ago
Absolute Rubbish.
Yes but conducting is all about interpretation, the same as any other mode of performance. Score markings only go so far, even the obsessive ones. Were that not the case, we'd only need a discreet upbeat and nod from the first desk and away we'd go, soldiers loyal to the metronome.
Wanda Landowska once said, while trying to end a dispute with someone else (somebody help me out here!) regarding her ornamentation of J.S.Bach, "Well you play Bach your way and I'll play him his way." The conductors of well known symphonic works all seem to have equally self-confident reckonings, from what one hears in recordings of their varied results.
And how not, really. You must have strong belief in yourself picking up the baton to lead a symphony orchestra. I figure the ego strength is about the same as that of a surgeon, or a four star general. Right or wrong, it's a big deal goin' down when they suit up!
Their first album was original and interesting but that was twenty-eight years ago
Boy - 10 out of 10
October - 9/10
War - 5/10
The Unforgettable Fire - 8/10
The Joshua Tree - 7/10
Rattle and Hum - 7/10
Achtung Baby - 8/10
Zooropa - 2/10
Pop - 0/10 (ABYSMAL!)
All That You Can't Leave Behind - 6/10
How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb - 9/10
A man after my own heart - Ride were one of my most loved bands, Nowhere and Going Blank Again two of the finest albums ever.
I apologise if someone has already posted this, I'm not going to read this entire thread. I nominate Guns and Roses.
Only Axel Rose would consider iiiieeeeiii a acceptable lyric. And saying "November Rain" would be the next "Stairway to Heaven"! Puh-leease! Pretentious much?
Only Axel Rose would consider iiiieeeeiii a acceptable lyric. And saying "November Rain" would be the next "Stairway to Heaven"! Puh-leease! Pretentious much?
Although Pop wasn't their best work, it's NOT a Zero. People underappreciate (if that's even a word, I forget...) that album and powerful songs like 'Last Night on Earth" "Mofo" " Wake Up Dead Man" " Do You Feel Loved" among others. Clearly, the Joshua Tree gets more than a 70 and War shouldn't get a 50... and Zoopra would never get a 20 and All that You Can't Leave Behind at least gets an 88. I hope your not a teacher because you'd be a hard grader, as these albums are artistic genius IMO.
I gotta agree with that. I've had four different conducting teachers, and all of them have had HUGE personalities. Their job is to convince 100 musicians that their artistic vision for a piece is the one the orchestra should be following. In other words, to impose their will on 100 people, all of whom have egos of their own.
There are a lot of overrated musicians listed in this thread (The Beatles and Radiohead not being among them). However, none of them, especially the recent ones, come anywhere near to ERIC CLAPTON. Sure, Coldplay is way overhyped, and Dave Mathews just sucks, but nobody ever called them "GOD" or the "Greatest Guitar Player Who Ever Lived"!
The best thing Clapton ever did was his solo on "While My Guitar Gently Weeps." His best officially credited work was with Creme, but that was decades ago, and he's renounced it as being commercial. Since then, he's put out record after record of milquetoast crap. He is not a good songwriter, and he is not an interesting singer, and while he may have good technique as a guitarist, he is rarely inspired, and never brilliant. He's certainly nowhere near as good as hugely underrated guitarists like Richard Thompson or Kristin Hersh. Hell, I'd rather see Elvis Costello play a guitar solo any day of the week than listen to Clapton wank.
The best thing Clapton ever did was his solo on "While My Guitar Gently Weeps." His best officially credited work was with Creme, but that was decades ago, and he's renounced it as being commercial. Since then, he's put out record after record of milquetoast crap. He is not a good songwriter, and he is not an interesting singer, and while he may have good technique as a guitarist, he is rarely inspired, and never brilliant. He's certainly nowhere near as good as hugely underrated guitarists like Richard Thompson or Kristin Hersh. Hell, I'd rather see Elvis Costello play a guitar solo any day of the week than listen to Clapton wank.
I agree with you completely. Creme stuff was rockin, guest guitar part on the Beatles' "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" is beautiful. Everything else he's done since then is very boring.
I second DMB, but the fact that they haven't been out really that long makes them less on the scale than, say, the Rolling Stones. The Stones were (are) just a bunch of drugged-up, twisted, self-centered guys who happened to become popular. A close second is the Beatles. The Beatles were original, granted, but had no song-writing talent whatsoever. George and Ringo could write some good stuff, while John and Paul could only write cheesy jingles that would be strung together to make a song.
I think a general rule is that any group, if they're reeaaall popular, is going to be over-rated to some degree.
I disagree about U2 - I think their lyrics and live concert energy make them quite remarkable - but again, with their high degree of popularity they have become over-rated to an extent - I say this acknowledging the fact they're one of my favourites..
m2c... now, Stones fans, beat me up! I'm ready...
ill put my vote in for soldier boy
well.. and most other rap artists.. really, if i wanted to put a few different beats on loop and talk fast about random pointless topics.. im sure i could do it
ill take you to the candy shop
ay bay bay
walk it out
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just realized it was for bands.
whoooopppsssss
well.. and most other rap artists.. really, if i wanted to put a few different beats on loop and talk fast about random pointless topics.. im sure i could do it
ill take you to the candy shop
ay bay bay
walk it out
-edit
just realized it was for bands.
whoooopppsssss
Well you asked for it
If the Stones never did hard drugs we wouldn't have had Exile on Main, perhaps the greatest album ever. If it weren't for LSD we'd never have Their Satanic Majesties Request. All we'd be left with is the bombast and self-congratulatory pomposity of U2, that photo-op that poses as a band.
This might piss a few people off..... but I have to nominate Tom Petty. He is just the poor man's Bob Dylan.
Any "alternative grunge" band from the 90's...
They wanted to be "different" - they all ended up being "the same"...
They wanted to be "different" - they all ended up being "the same"...
As always, saying "_______ is a poor man's _______" is a little simplistic, but I think you're on the right track. Tom Petty doesn't bother me and he's not talentless. He just doesn't have much going on. (Did anyone else think his Super Bowl halftime set was dull? I would argue that "Running Down a Dream" is his only famous song that raises anyone's pulse for such an event.) He's one of those guys who made the RnR HOF simply by hanging around a long time and selling albums.
In the same spirit, I'll call John Mellencamp a poor man's Springsteen.
I'll go with that, but I do like Tom Petty for what he is. Think of him as a top-notch MOTR rocker. The radio would have been a poorer place without him for the past 25 years. Credit where credit is due.
You have to give it up for Alice in Chains though..... They rocked pretty hard. One of the best live bands I have ever seen, and I have seen a lot.