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Crap, my rev a Powerbook 17 won't run it. I've been waiting for Motion since its announcement, and now I notice that my video card isn't on the list.
4.5 gigs? just curious what reseller did you buy from? They running a promo for it?
Ge4-ce said:Hiaaaaa! I think my new 2.5 dual G5 with 4.5 Gigs of ram and the nVidia 6800 card will run motion awesome!
now, if it would only arrive soon
No Shake or Logic included in the Production Suite? That would cover all the bases! That would be a bit much though, and then Apple would run into the problem of people only wanting certain pro apps (not all 5) and not being willing to pay for all 5 together. I think this combination of FCP, DVDSP and Motion makes sense...
Quite the system requirements for Motion as well!
That would be a bit much though, and then Apple would run into the problem of people only wanting certain pro apps (not all 5) and not being willing to pay for all 5 together. I think this combination of FCP, DVDSP and Motion makes sense...Quite the system requirements for Motion as well!
GrannySmith_G5 said:
Why would you expect a year old low end notebook meant for web browsing and looking at pictures to be able to a run a new cutting-edge professional video graphics application? That's what the PowerMacs are for and a new PowerBook if you must have it portable.
njmac said:
No you cannot use Academic software for commericial purposes. That violates the user agreement. You can upgrade to the full commericial license though.
is production suite too much...?
The production suite seems powerful, but pricey. Can anyone provide some pros and cons to purchasing it given that I'm a HOBBYIST when it comes to photos/videos. Much appreciated.
The production suite seems powerful, but pricey. Can anyone provide some pros and cons to purchasing it given that I'm a HOBBYIST when it comes to photos/videos. Much appreciated.
Ge4-ce said:Hiaaaaa! I think my new 2.5 dual G5 with 4.5 Gigs of ram and the nVidia 6800 card will run motion awesome!
now, if it would only arrive soon
I know your excited, but if you don't calm down, you might explode.
I was going to buy DVD Studio Pro 3, academic, but it is no longer available by itself academic. SOooo... I guess I HAVE, hehe, to buy the production bundle BUT, will motion work at all on my iMac, 20" 1.25G4 768MB RAM? I know that DVD Studio Pro works, I have been using my friends at his house I know that FCP will work on it, because again, he has it running on the same computer... but would Motion? I would expect for it to be slower but it should still at least run pretty well seeing how I am above the min requirements, right?
Thanks
BUT, will motion work at all on my iMac, 20" 1.25G4 768MB RAM? I know that DVD Studio Pro works, I have been using my friends at his house I know that FCP will work on it, because again, he has it running on the same computer... but would Motion? I would expect for it to be slower but it should still at least run pretty well seeing how I am above the min requirements, right?Thanks
iMac, Yes; iBook, No.
Good news for the upcoming iMac,Though!
Looks like the last generation iMacs can meet min. specs, but iBooks can't (graphics card insufficiency).the silver fox said:
Good news for the upcoming iMac,Though!
Yes!
Yeszim said:I was going to buy DVD Studio Pro 3, academic, but it is no longer available by itself academic. SOooo... I guess I HAVE, hehe, to buy the production bundle
Thanks
Bendit said:
Damn me and my archaic year old laptop. I do a lot more then browse the web and look at pictures on my low end, year old ibook. I suspect a lot of other people do as well. You are right though. I'll be stopping by my local apple store after I leave the water bar tonight to pick up a g5 powermac so I can run this "cutting edge professional" $300 application. After all, clearly only a POWER user would ever use motion. Now that I know that I've been misusing my ibook, I can delete all the programs I have except for safari and preview and free up a buttload of disc space to store awesome pictures I download off of geocities and tripod sites! Sweet.
My 17inch imac won't run it either. I've got to stop buying these expensive web browsers and get a real man's computer.
GrannySmith_G5 said:
Despite what the model numer suggests, the 9200 and the 9600 are two different generations of hardware (ie: The 9200 is a DX8 card, while the 9600 is a DX9). The 9200 is more or less a 8500... It could be that Motion require features not present in the previous generation of cards. (I see that the GeForce 5200 is supported... In terms of speed it's fairly equal to the 9200, but the 5200 is a DX9-card and support more advanced technologies).
GrannySmith_G5 said:
When you see motion running in real life you will see why the system requirements are so high, and why your computers can't run it.
I saw Motion at NAB this year, when it was announced, and needless to say, it is going to save me loads of time. Bye, bye After Effects and Livetype.
nuckinfutz said:
I have FCP4 and DVD SP 2 Academic versions. Can I purchase the upgrade to the Production Suite which includes FCP HD, DVD SP 3 and Motion and have it be "full commercial license", or do I have to pay full price to use commercial license? Can I just order it online? If so, that would be great.
alanbuilds said:
Thanks, just need someone to agree with me... hehe.
I do wish that they would do a second bundle with FCE, Motion and DVD Studio Pro. I think apple often forgets that they made DVD Studio Pro to appeal to two different audiences, the hobbits who need more then iDVD and the Pros who want the pro features.
I currently have FCE, this bundle will be an upgrade for me to pro... maybe I will wait a bit and see if anything happens in the express area.
worth every penny, IMHO.
It's both extremely powerful and extremely affordable. I moved from Discreet Edit and Discreet Combustion to the Apple lineup about a year ago. These products have become so much easier to use. The Discreet software alone cost us around $13,000 five years ago (and that was far from the high end!). Now you can do WAY more with FCP and Motion and author DVD's for just over a grand? Nice work Apple. Although I still use Combustion for some compositing, they too have had to lower their prices to keep up with apple type products.
BUT... to answer your question, iMovie and iDvd do a fairly impressive job at putting together some simple cut dvd's, especially for free programs. If you are willing to put in the time to learn the higher end products, and want the added power and functionality, these products take a huge leap for a minimal price. Check out the apple product sites and take the tours, etc. And decide if you want to use/learn the features of these higher end products. Remember the programs in the production suite were designed to meet the needs of broadcast professionals, filmmakers, and production companies. You are getting a toolkit of what used to cost thousands of dollars.
They know what they are doing, they're practically giving away highly developed and respected software because even the dual proc you bought last year is too slow to run it! How about another round of dual 2.5 G5's?! (I'm, still impatiently waiting for mine by the way...)
myapplseedshurt said:The production suite seems powerful, but pricey. Can anyone provide some pros and cons to purchasing it given that I'm a HOBBYIST when it comes to photos/videos. Much appreciated.
It's both extremely powerful and extremely affordable. I moved from Discreet Edit and Discreet Combustion to the Apple lineup about a year ago. These products have become so much easier to use. The Discreet software alone cost us around $13,000 five years ago (and that was far from the high end!). Now you can do WAY more with FCP and Motion and author DVD's for just over a grand? Nice work Apple. Although I still use Combustion for some compositing, they too have had to lower their prices to keep up with apple type products.
BUT... to answer your question, iMovie and iDvd do a fairly impressive job at putting together some simple cut dvd's, especially for free programs. If you are willing to put in the time to learn the higher end products, and want the added power and functionality, these products take a huge leap for a minimal price. Check out the apple product sites and take the tours, etc. And decide if you want to use/learn the features of these higher end products. Remember the programs in the production suite were designed to meet the needs of broadcast professionals, filmmakers, and production companies. You are getting a toolkit of what used to cost thousands of dollars.
They know what they are doing, they're practically giving away highly developed and respected software because even the dual proc you bought last year is too slow to run it! How about another round of dual 2.5 G5's?! (I'm, still impatiently waiting for mine by the way...)
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jrv3034 said:
That's a good question. Apple is going to need to offer a special upgrade for those that want to do just that...move from Edu to Commercial. Right now I'm not sure we have the answer we need available.
The PSuite would be overkill for you. As a hobbyist you're likely going to be fine with Final Cut Express and iLife. The PSuite really gives you a lot.
Final Cut Pro- scales from Standard Definition(SD) to High Definition(HD). Robust Nonlinear Editor with many realtime effects.
Comes with
LiveType- A titler that gives you animated fonts and volumetric lighting(think rays of light shining through fonts).
Cinema Tools- Used to be a seperate $1k package. It handles the importing of Film and other 24 frame formats.
Soundtrack- Like Garageband more more oriented towards video pros.
Then you add
Motion- Very fast motion graphics and Keying. It addresses the limited motion graphics in FCP. This program is very easy and fun to use but it still has depth.
DVD Studio Pro- Burn DVDs that look as professional as your skills allow. Motion and Final Cut Pro work hand in hand with this app.
Basically if you are a hobbyist you don't "need" the PSuite but if you had the PSuite your finished product could look and sound great.
After having attended last month's Motion certification course, I will say that it runs respectably on a 17" Powerbook. It was still in beta at that time, and I can't wait to see the finished version! You guys are going to love the real-time effects of this program... trust me.