Too bad it's not on Verizon...VZW ownes everyone in service, but their phones are low-tech. I wish GSM was as solid as CDMA service...
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Motorola SLVR L7 from Cingular (iTunes)
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dr_lha said:
They are now.
http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product_Code=ERC+K750I&JRSource=zdnet.datafeed.ERC+K750I
new name, new phone... 100 songs is still LAME! 
Why even release a new product until they could fix that?
Why even release a new product until they could fix that? 
Verizon just launched their own music store based on Windows Media, so don't hold your breath for iTunes on Verizon phones. Unless or until the store in its present form tanks big time, of course.mongoos150 said:
Let's look at the options:electronboy said:new name, new phone... 100 songs is still LAME!
- Delay releasing the phone until Apple drops the 100 song limit.
What? When iPod Nanos are literally selling as fast as Apple can make them? It'll be a looooooong wait. Especially if that rumored 1GB Nano makes an appearance... - Release phone without iTunes.
After all the money Motorola has already sunk into licensing fees to Apple and porting the iTunes client to its GSM phones, seems kind of silly not to try and recoup something before the iRadio system is ready to roll out. - Release phone with 100 song limit iTunes.
Take advantage of the iTunes/iPod halo effect. Profit!
FWIW, I had been waiting for a long time for the ROKR, even with it's limitations. I didn't like carrying around my 40gig ipod plus a cell phone. I've found the limitations pretty easy to live with(same goes for the SLVR presumably):
usb 1.1 is slow: plug it in when i get home from work or overnight and auto-update
100 song limit: even with the short(average <2min) songs I listen to, this is still between 3 and 4 hours, which is fine for most car trips. Though, I do bring my ipod shuffle along for plane rides and road trips now.
I would say it's worth about $100 though, my sister works for cingular and I got it on one of the family and friend deals for $50AR and am very satisfied for that price, anything over $100 is probably not worth it, given the limitations.
One limitation that I haven't seen mentioned is when using the headphone adapter with standard headphones or car aux-input: When you get a call, the sound comes out over the headphones or car speakers, but if you answer the call, you can't talk since the ROKR refuses to use the handset input when something is plugged into the handsfree 3/32" jack. It would be great if it would use the speakerphone and I didn't have to unplug it from my car to answer a call and then plug it back in when i hang up.
usb 1.1 is slow: plug it in when i get home from work or overnight and auto-update
100 song limit: even with the short(average <2min) songs I listen to, this is still between 3 and 4 hours, which is fine for most car trips. Though, I do bring my ipod shuffle along for plane rides and road trips now.
I would say it's worth about $100 though, my sister works for cingular and I got it on one of the family and friend deals for $50AR and am very satisfied for that price, anything over $100 is probably not worth it, given the limitations.
One limitation that I haven't seen mentioned is when using the headphone adapter with standard headphones or car aux-input: When you get a call, the sound comes out over the headphones or car speakers, but if you answer the call, you can't talk since the ROKR refuses to use the handset input when something is plugged into the handsfree 3/32" jack. It would be great if it would use the speakerphone and I didn't have to unplug it from my car to answer a call and then plug it back in when i hang up.
a little harsh?
everybody's definetly being way 2 harsh on this fone.. sur it only has 100 songs but its a phone with music not an ipod with a fone .. its definetly a dramatic step up from the ROKR, which was one of the ugliest phones id seen in a while. superslick Ill buy one
everybody's definetly being way 2 harsh on this fone.. sur it only has 100 songs but its a phone with music not an ipod with a fone .. its definetly a dramatic step up from the ROKR, which was one of the ugliest phones id seen in a while. superslick Ill buy one
Dunepilot said:
Except it [SE K750i] costs about as much as an iPod. I'd love a solid sub-$200 phone that acts like a shuffle, with something more than a VGA camera. I've considered the W600i, but with only 256 mb of memory, I don't know.
One please...
Complain all you want, but when you buy as much music off the iTunes Music Store as I do, and you need (really want) a phone as your MP3 (less obvious at work)... the Motorola ROKR E1 and now SLVR S7 are our only options. The phones really aren't that bad, I traded my bulky Treo 650 for my ROKR. I am now ditching my ROKR for a SLVR.
If there were other phones that supported protected-AAC playback, I would be buying them. But for now, at least I have a cool looking, and for me, highly usable music playback device/cellphone.
Now for a better camera! lol
Anyone else order one?
Complain all you want, but when you buy as much music off the iTunes Music Store as I do, and you need (really want) a phone as your MP3 (less obvious at work)... the Motorola ROKR E1 and now SLVR S7 are our only options. The phones really aren't that bad, I traded my bulky Treo 650 for my ROKR. I am now ditching my ROKR for a SLVR.
If there were other phones that supported protected-AAC playback, I would be buying them. But for now, at least I have a cool looking, and for me, highly usable music playback device/cellphone.
Now for a better camera! lol
Anyone else order one?
Which had its music store on the air before Verizon's. I firmly believe we'll see Apple as a MVNO before we see iTunes on any Verizon or Sprint labeled phone.MaCaDDiCT21 said:
d.perel said:
the razr v3c is almost the worst one in my opinion. it has the verizon ui (which is almost standard on all the verizon phones) masking the motorola ui making the phone extremely slow. thats something that any consumer would notice right away with this phone. another thing wrogn with it is all the constraints it has on bluetooth and the only thing it really has going for it is 1.3 mp camera and obeymoto (voice recognition).
I bought the SLVR on Feb 1 and absolutely love it. Previously had the RAZR, which was way cool but I'm enjoying the non-flip phone. I used auto-fill to load songs from iTunes and it took about 30 mins to load 100 songs.
The iTunes feature on the phone is great--convenient, simple to use, LOVE that it pauses when a call comes in and allows you to accept the call or ignore. If you accept, you hear the caller through the earbuds and they hear you through the built-in speaker, thus no need to disconnect from iTunes to talk.
The SLVR weighs a little more than the RAZR which makes it feel sturdier. The airplane mode is also useful--tested it out on a plane already. Shows that you are on airplane mode on the homescreen so the flight attendants can see that you aren't violating the "no cell phones inflight" rule.
The iTunes feature on the phone is great--convenient, simple to use, LOVE that it pauses when a call comes in and allows you to accept the call or ignore. If you accept, you hear the caller through the earbuds and they hear you through the built-in speaker, thus no need to disconnect from iTunes to talk.
The SLVR weighs a little more than the RAZR which makes it feel sturdier. The airplane mode is also useful--tested it out on a plane already. Shows that you are on airplane mode on the homescreen so the flight attendants can see that you aren't violating the "no cell phones inflight" rule.
Misplaced Mage said:Verizon just launched their own music store based on Windows Media, so don't hold your breath for iTunes on Verizon phones. Unless or until the store in its present form tanks big time, of course.
iTunes will NEVER make it onto a VZW phone - until they drop their GIN BREW partners (which will read:NEVER happen). Their profitability with BREW partners is too great; it's the same reason they cripple their bluetooth so you have to use GIN, $5/mo. to get your pics from your phone onto your computer. Every other carrier allows its customers to do what they WANT with the equipment they OWN...urgh if it weren't for VZW's awesome coverage I'd be out the door...
luke.111 said:FYI - David Pogue also just had an article on NYtimes.com comparing Samsung's RAZR-wannabe to the RAZR. Needless to say, he took the RAZR UI to task. It made me feel justified in my ill-will toward Motorola
Can anyone post a link?
Many thanks!
I am not going to purchase any type of iTunes enabled phones until I see 250 songs on it at least, or an expandable version. What's the point? Although the critics and writers and the consumers complain about the limit, but Motorola and Apple* do not do anything about it! Now they may have some type of business plan they haven't revealed here, but from what it looks like, they are not doing squat about any complaints filing in.
* I am not aware of the situation between Apple and Motorola and this situation, and how Apple is included in the creation of the phones.
* I am not aware of the situation between Apple and Motorola and this situation, and how Apple is included in the creation of the phones.
You always get another transflash card and put another hundred songs on it. Not an elegant solution, but it works. Kinda.Judxapp said:
Like I said--unless or until the Verizon music store (in its present form) tanks, which is admittedly the $64*10^n question right now. If people stay away from the store in droves in favor of Apple's present solutions, Verizon may rethink their position. But there's also a question of how much of a financial incentive Microsoft is offering to subsidize these stores in an attempt to achieve critical mass for portable Windows Media players. Who knows? Due to financial incentives it may be more profitable for Verizon to run the store with few people actually using it on an ongoing basis. Retail makes for strange partnerships...mongoos150 said:
Given the way iPod hardware is selling, Apple has little incentive to do anything about it right now. Motorola is the sole licensee of the FairPlay DRM scheme (required for any phone with an iTunes client to play content downloaded from the iTMS), which puts Apple in the driver's seat. I'm sure Motorola would love to increase the song limit if it meant that it would sell more phones, but as long as Apple sees that as a threat to its iPod profit margins it's not happening.Judxapp said: