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StlCards80

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Greetings!

I've decided to take the plunge and go Mac. I've had an iPhone for 7 years, but I've always used windows laptops. Now I take the plunge!

Question: I've always used 14" and bigger laptops, but I want to downsize to the 13" for portability. I hated lugging around a 15" laptop, but while I was in the store testing the 13" (beautiful machine by the way) I found my left hand moving over a key placing my index finger on the H rather than whatever key is next to it. Does the smaller keyboard take getting used to?

Outside of that, I couldn't be more pleased. The touch bar is awesome even if some aren't fans. The screen is brilliant. The trackpad is the best I've ever used.

Cheers!
 

StlCards80

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The keyboard on a Mac does take some time to get used to for many people (myself included).

I type on a desktop computer all day. I just wanted to be sure when I came home this was one I could get used to. I see some keyboard issues here so I figured I'd ask. I'll sacrifice changes for the portability.
 

StlCards80

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It took me about two weeks with my very first Mac, before I found my Mac typing groove, due to the form factor.

I really like the 13" tMBP.

Welcome to the club.

Thanks! Happy to be a member.

Are you having a disastrous problem with battery life? It's making me want to lean toward the base without tb.
 

thesaint024

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Nice move. I use my tb MBP and a desktop PC daily. I switch between the keyboards regularly. I don't find it very different as far as getting used to. They are different for sure, but not worlds apart to me. Some people have very strong keyboard preferences and they can't get used to any new keyboard, but I imagine most of us just end up adjusting to something new. Yes, I'm a fairly fast touch typist so feel is very important, but this is the best laptop keyboard I've ever used. I have a full chiclet keyboard, and I am starting to actually prefer the new MBP keyboard to it *gasp*. This is something I never would have expected. Of course this is very personal and everyone's tastes are different. BTW, I also get 7-9 hours on regular use, up to 10 or more when I'm trying to conserve battery.
 
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StlCards80

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Nice move. I use my tb MBP and a desktop PC daily. I switch between the keyboards regularly. I don't find it very different as far as getting used to. They are different for sure, but not worlds apart to me. Some people have very strong keyboard preferences and they can't get used to any new keyboard, but I imagine most of us just end up adjusting to something new. Yes, I'm a fairly fast touch typist so feel is very important, but this is the best laptop keyboard I've ever used. I have a full chiclet keyboard, and I am starting to actually prefer the new MBP keyboard to it *gasp*. This is something I never would have expected. Of course this is very personal and everyone's tastes are different. BTW, I also get 7-9 hours on regular use, up to 10 or more when I'm trying to conserve battery.

Thanks! The girl at BB was extremely helpful and flew through the touchbar like it was notning. The actual feel of the keyboard was awesome. I think once I get used to the placement I'll fall in love with it.
 

myscrnnm

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Greetings!

I've decided to take the plunge and go Mac. I've had an iPhone for 7 years, but I've always used windows laptops. Now I take the plunge!

Question: I've always used 14" and bigger laptops, but I want to downsize to the 13" for portability. I hated lugging around a 15" laptop, but while I was in the store testing the 13" (beautiful machine by the way) I found my left hand moving over a key placing my index finger on the H rather than whatever key is next to it. Does the smaller keyboard take getting used to?

Outside of that, I couldn't be more pleased. The touch bar is awesome even if some aren't fans. The screen is brilliant. The trackpad is the best I've ever used.

Cheers!
The keyboard on the 13" and 15" MacBook Pros are the same size, and shouldn't be significantly smaller than other keyboards on the market. I came from a VAIO PC with isolation keyboard, and the keys on the 2016 MBP are so much larger, and the surface is smoother as the keys are almost flush with the keyboard panel.

My VAIO Z was also a 13" computer, but with a 16:9 aspect ratio. So the MBPs are not as good for videos, but for web browsing the 13" has very good screen real estate, and when closed the proportions look more pleasant.
 

StlCards80

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The keyboard on the 13" and 15" MacBook Pros are the same size, and shouldn't be significantly smaller than other keyboards on the market. I came from a VAIO PC with isolation keyboard, and the keys on the 2016 MBP are so much larger, and the surface is smoother as the keys are almost flush with the keyboard panel.

My VAIO Z was also a 13" computer, but with a 16:9 aspect ratio. So the MBPs are not as good for videos, but for web browsing the 13" has very good screen real estate, and when closed the proportions look more pleasant.

Thanks for the insight. I'm coming from a Vaio Z as well, and it was by far my favorite windows laptop. I just fell in love with the tbmbp at the store. My mind is made up. I guess it will just take getting used to the keyboard.
 

wittyphrase

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I made the leap last week. Dropped down to a 15" from my 17" windows laptop as I couldn't really get comfortable with the 13" in the store. The mac keyboards are just...different. I don't think they really have an analogue anywhere, but I'm enjoying mine. The hardest thing for me w/r/t the keyboard is that I think as a fast typist used to more travel in the keys I was initially making quite a few errors the first day or two. Quite like it now though.

What I really need is for someone to link me to a good Windows to macOS transition guide so I don't feel like such a dummy using my own computer.
 

StlCards80

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I made the leap last week. Dropped down to a 15" from my 17" windows laptop as I couldn't really get comfortable with the 13" in the store. The mac keyboards are just...different. I don't think they really have an analogue anywhere, but I'm enjoying mine. The hardest thing for me w/r/t the keyboard is that I think as a fast typist used to more travel in the keys I was initially making quite a few errors the first day or two. Quite like it now though.

What I really need is for someone to link me to a good Windows to macOS transition guide so I don't feel like such a dummy using my own computer.

I'm wondering the same thing. The BB rep said if I buy Apple Care they will actually walk you through different functions on screen.
 

BigMcGuire

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Congrats! I did the same thing over a year ago. I'm a C# developer and have used Windows all my life. I got a Mac Mini to replace my desktop at home and a Macbook Air 11 for my mobile uses. Wife uses her Macbook Air 11 with a dual monitor setup at home and at college. I love the keyboard on my Mac, it's very nice - getting 12+ hours of battery life is nice as well.

Took me about 2 weeks to really get OS X down - but I spent a lot of time reading, learning, doing so I could become a "power user" quickly.

I often use my Windows keyboards with my Mac products just because I have a ton of them laying around. I don't seem to have any problem going back and forth, especially since I've been doing this for a year+.

Buy an extra charger for work if you take it to work - makes life a lot easier. It's expensive but it'll last.
 
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elf69

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I swapped to mac about 7-8 months ago.

not a new mac only a 2007 imac and 2010 macbook but sooooo much better than the windows units they replaced.

not as powerful no but more useable to me.

prefer osx over windows as my old units had windows 10 which I hate!

took a month or two to adjust fully but so happy now.
converted a few friends too
 
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StlCards80

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I swapped to mac about 7-8 months ago.

not a new mac only a 2007 imac and 2010 macbook but sooooo much better than the windows units they replaced.

not as powerful no but more useable to me.

prefer osx over windows as my old units had windows 10 which I hate!

took a month or two to adjust fully but so happy now.
converted a few friends too

Truth be told I want a good machine for perusing The Lad Bible :)
 

elf69

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lol.

my 2010 macbook is my everyday machine at work.

my imac is my home computer with a 2nd monitor connected.
the imac main use is itunes, facebook and world of tanks.
 

StlCards80

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lol.

my 2010 macbook is my everyday machine at work.

my imac is my home computer with a 2nd monitor connected.
the imac main use is itunes, facebook and world of tanks.

My biggest concern was the keyboard and battery life, but after reading enough reviews the good far outweigh the bad. Everyone here has been extremely helpful. Looking forward to years of Mac and loss of windows.

Do you find the touchbar useful? I don't use the function keys all that often and the touch lock is enough to sell me. I'm sure it will carry a lot of use. The girl at Best Buy did so much with it.
 
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StlCards80

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I've come to really like the keyboard on the MacBook 12.

Once I get used to the shorter travel I'm sure I will too.
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Yup, and you'll be used to it in no time.

Congrats on your new baby :)

I'm opting for an upgrade from the base Tb, and I'm wondering whether the 512 or the 16g would be more advantageous? They didn't have the space gray so I have to wait a week :/
 

MarcBou

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I've been using Windows computers my whole life, just changed to Mac last month, got the 15" tbMBP. I don't exactly know what do you mean by differences between keyboards, I switch every day between my PC desktop and the MBP and I adapt very easily.

About getting used to Mac system, it will be easy, before I used sometimes my girlfriend's mac so I knew a little bit how it worked, but it really isn't hard.
 

StlCards80

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I've been using Windows computers my whole life, just changed to Mac last month, got the 15" tbMBP. I don't exactly know what do you mean by differences between keyboards, I switch every day between my PC desktop and the MBP and I adapt very easily.

About getting used to Mac system, it will be easy, before I used sometimes my girlfriend's mac so I knew a little bit how it worked, but it really isn't hard.

I mean switching in general. I've never used a Mac keyboard, let alone a 13" keyboard.
 

thesaint024

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My biggest concern was the keyboard and battery life, but after reading enough reviews the good far outweigh the bad. Everyone here has been extremely helpful. Looking forward to years of Mac and loss of windows.

Do you find the touchbar useful? I don't use the function keys all that often and the touch lock is enough to sell me. I'm sure it will carry a lot of use. The girl at Best Buy did so much with it.
I'm in the same boat. I never used the function keys that much, especially on the Mac. On Office on PC I'd use them pretty regular, but it hasn't been the case on the Mac strangely. The touch lock and unlock are huge for me. I use them several times a day. You keep talking about this girl at Best Buy. You should get her on MR to show us all how to do crazy things on the touchbar. Haha.
 

StlCards80

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I'm in the same boat. I never used the function keys that much, especially on the Mac. On Office on PC I'd use them pretty regular, but it hasn't been the case on the Mac strangely. The touch lock and unlock are huge for me. I use them several times a day. You keep talking about this girl at Best Buy. You should get her on MR to show us all how to do crazy things on the touchbar. Haha.

literally threw strokes like Stevie wonder on a keyboard. Downright intimidating.
 
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