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Moving to Verizon ditching iPhone 3GS

Consultant said:
LOL somehow I highly doubt your whole message, especially this part. At least you didn't say it's over 9000.

Sure go enjoy Droid, the phone that doesn't have multi-touch on browser by default.
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Sorry, typo. Meant 1000kpbs. I can always show you the Speedtest.net results if you'd like. Nice condescending attitude, by the way. Sorry to not drum up the iPhone as the end all, be all of smartphones like you'd obviously like me to do. But that attitude is pretty common on here. Yes, the iPhone is a great device, and, JAILBROKEN, is probably the best overall phone on the market, but until AT&T steps up it's game, the iPhone is going to continue to suffer due to the network it's on and it's popularity. The amount of iPhone users keeps growing faster than AT&T can grow it's network. Almost all of my problems with the iPhone (once jailbroken, mind you) are with AT&T and it's inability to deliver the bandwidth the iPhone needs to function as designed. And as far as no "multi-touch" in the browser, if you mean pinch to zoom...as long as I can double tap to zoom on the text, and it resizes it to fit the screen, and another double tap zooms back out, I'm good. Double tap to zoom is actually faster for one handed operation anyway. I've never had a reason to use pinch to zoom in the web browser on the iPhone either. I actually always used double tap to zoom on selected text on that too.
 
chris975d said:
Sorry, typo. Meant 1000kpbs. I can always show you the Speedtest.net results if you'd like. Nice condescending attitude, by the way. Sorry to not drum up the iPhone as the end all, be all of smartphones like you'd obviously like me to do. But that attitude is pretty common on here. Yes, the iPhone is a great device, and, JAILBROKEN, is probably the best overall phone on the market, but until AT&T steps up it's game, the iPhone is going to continue to suffer due to the network it's on and it's popularity. The amount of iPhone users keeps growing faster than AT&T can grow it's network. Almost all of my problems with the iPhone (once jailbroken, mind you) are with AT&T and it's inability to deliver the bandwidth the iPhone needs to function as designed. And as far as no "multi-touch" in the browser, if you mean pinch to zoom...as long as I can double tap to zoom on the text, and it resizes it to fit the screen, and another double tap zooms back out, I'm good. Double tap to zoom is actually faster for one handed operation anyway. I've never had a reason to use pinch to zoom in the web browser on the iPhone either. I actually always used double tap to zoom on selected text on that too.
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chris975d, I'm almost in the exact same boat as you. I'm in the San Diego area, and the particular places that I spend 90% of my time in (work, and the area I hang out at the coffee shop in) have very bad reception or NO reception at all with AT&T. I really liked your write up on your experiences with the Droid.

One question for you, I've read around and the only thing I want to know now is about the music player. I know that it doesn't have the type of syncing that iTunes offers, and that you have to manually add your music and videos yourself. How does the mp3 player itself actually fare? I'm sure it's no iPod player, but as an alternative for listening to hooked up to my car through an aux cable, does it have a reasonable interface for going through different albums, artists, etc?
 
Consultant said:
Sure go enjoy Droid, the phone that doesn't have multi-touch on browser by default.
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It's called Dolphin browser, and you're just shooting yourself in the foot by bringing that up because it demonstrates the fact that the Droid's limitations can easily be overcome with software updates and its superior customization options (plus a more open marketplace).

The Droid wins when it comes to hardware. Whether you like them or not there's no way for you to download a physical keyboard, user replaceable battery, camera flash, or a new screen with 3x the resolution you currently have.

Go enjoy iPhone, the phone with no widgets, multi-tasking, custom SMS tones, wallpapers, LED notification light, blah blah blah :rolleyes:
JLatte said:
One question for you, I've read around and the only thing I want to know now is about the music player. I know that it doesn't have the type of syncing that iTunes offers, and that you have to manually add your music and videos yourself. How does the mp3 player itself actually fare? I'm sure it's no iPod player, but as an alternative for listening to hooked up to my car through an aux cable, does it have a reasonable interface for going through different albums, artists, etc?
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Navigation is not a hassle at all, you just need to adapt to the different UI and learn the options / buttons. Having your music well-organized and tagged helps (as it would with any MP3 player) and playlists are still my preferred way of avoiding excessive time searching through my music library while driving... You can easily play an artist, album, playlist, etc. and the shuffle / repeat buttons are always right on screen.

Since I got my Droid I haven't listened to a single CD or radio station in my car. Tap the Bluetooth widget to enable it before I get in the car, fire up the Music player and my head unit picks it up and starts playing over the car speakers within seconds once the car is started.
 
JLatte said:
chris975d, I'm almost in the exact same boat as you. I'm in the San Diego area, and the particular places that I spend 90% of my time in (work, and the area I hang out at the coffee shop in) have very bad reception or NO reception at all with AT&T. I really liked your write up on your experiences with the Droid.

One question for you, I've read around and the only thing I want to know now is about the music player. I know that it doesn't have the type of syncing that iTunes offers, and that you have to manually add your music and videos yourself. How does the mp3 player itself actually fare? I'm sure it's no iPod player, but as an alternative for listening to hooked up to my car through an aux cable, does it have a reasonable interface for going through different albums, artists, etc?
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The mp3 player isn't bad at all. Like Konz says below, it's just getting used to a different interface. It has all of the basic functionality of the iPod app on the iPhone. To be honest, as I stated earlier, even when I used an iPhone every day, I kept an iPod Nano or shuffle with me for music, and didn't use the iPod app on the iPhone that much. I listen to too much music a day for the pitiful iPhone battery to withstand any increased usage.

Konz said:
It's called Dolphin browser, and you're just shooting yourself in the foot by bringing that up because it demonstrates the fact that the Droid's limitations can easily be overcome with software updates and its superior customization options (plus a more open marketplace).

The Droid wins when it comes to hardware. Whether you like them or not there's no way for you to download a physical keyboard, user replaceable battery, camera flash, or a new screen with 3x the resolution you currently have.
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I was going to mention the Dolphin browser, but forgot to. If you actually have to have the over-touted "pinch to zoom" feature in a browser, this is a great browser to use. I've never actually seen that much benefit in pinch to zoom like I stated above, when the browser has double-tap to zoom. Double-tap is a far more one-handed use feature, and the default browser has this. Now, as far as the Dolphin browser, it has a totally customizable gesture system that is extremely useful. You can create any gesture and link it to commonly used commands (back, forward, "go to web page", "go home", etc) and perform these with a gesture right in the browser. This is something that I doubt you'll ever see in Safari from Apple, unless the jailbreak community supplies it. It really is something that I can't believe Apple didn't think of first, with as much as they tout "multi-touch". And yes, Dolphin has the "holy grail" of multi-touch features, the all important "pinch to zoom" (/sarcasm). It also has a very nice implementation of multi-tabbed browsing.

And again, to reiterate what Konz said of the "3x resolution" of the iPhone, this is one thing that really stands out in day to day use. The screen is absolutely gorgeous. Colors are brighter, not as washed out looking compared to the iPhone, and everything is crystal clear and sharp. No matter how close you look, you can't see any blocky pixels at the edges of letters/words in webpages and in icons...or anywhere for that matter. Use the Droid for a half hour or so and then pick up an iPhone or Touch and just watch at how you see how pixelated everything looks on it that you never noticed before, especially in text and at the edge of icons. Those are two areas it's hard not to notice it in.
 
I switched from an iPhone 3GS to Verizon's Blackberry Tour. I have had every iPhone since first generation and I don't regret my change, but of course i still have an iPod touch that I use. And i love love love Verizon's coverage. No dropped calls at all, compared to at the minimum 15 a day on AT&T. It was soo worth paying the early termination fee too. :)
 
chrismac00 said:
I switched from an iPhone 3GS to Verizon's Blackberry Tour. I have had every iPhone since first generation and I don't regret my change, but of course i still have an iPod touch that I use. And i love love love Verizon's coverage. No dropped calls at all, compared to at the minimum 15 a day on AT&T. It was soo worth paying the early termination fee too. :)
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I have the Blackberry Tour and like it and love verizon coverage but i've always been obsessed with technology. I'm 19 and have spent over 4000 on electronics in my life. I want the iphone, it has everything I need just waiting for June for the new announcement.
 
Get rid of the iPhone. It's a piece of crap. The sooner, the better.

Good luck!
 
I used to be in the same spot. I figured the only way to save money with iPhone plan would be to scrap it altogether.

I signed in to my at&t account and looked at what I could trim out... Text messages... I had 1000 I could use every month, but only used about 100 on average, thanks to MobileMe push email (practically text messaging for my fellow iPhone-owning girlfriend and me), so I completely dropped text messaging.

My bill dropped from $110 per month to $80.

If you do research, take a look at your habits and how you can trim them, as well as look at alternatives to paid services from at&t (free "texting" apps, im, etc), you could easily save money on your bill every month.
 
elitesouth said:
I used to be in the same spot. I figured the only way to save money with iPhone plan would be to scrap it altogether.

I signed in to my at&t account and looked at what I could trim out... Text messages... I had 1000 I could use every month, but only used about 100 on average, thanks to MobileMe push email (practically text messaging for my fellow iPhone-owning girlfriend and me), so I completely dropped text messaging.

My bill dropped from $110 per month to $80.

If you do research, take a look at your habits and how you can trim them, as well as look at alternatives to paid services from at&t (free "texting" apps, im, etc), you could easily save money on your bill every month.
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I took my iPhone completely offline. I dumped my contract... picked up a go-phone, had AT&T block data, put the sim in my iPhone... and now I have a go-iPhone.
 
Unless the Droid phones get better, if I have to move from the iPhone it will be to a Storm on VZ network. I am in the IT field and I need the ability to access email from work and home, but to me most important is the fact I communicate with my two sons and wife on VZ network without spending extra money on a seperate plan. I love love love the iPhone, I have 99.9999% Full Bars and Great 3G however if I kept it I would have to increase my data from the $30 -$45 per month to access work email, also I have to extend Txt to unlimited so add $5 then upgrade the minutes from $39.99 to $99.99 so it is not worth all that money just for me to have an iPhone, bc my phone alone would be $165 per month, not including the $200+ for my family to have a VZ family plan, just cant do it. i am just going to buckle down, pay the ETF and sell my 3GS 32GB White on eBay and get what I can get, or keep it just as an ipod
 
Wicked1 said:
Has anyone moved to Verizon and purchased a BB or some sort?

I am reluctant to do this, but I am currently paying $100 per month just for my iPhone while the rest of the family is on Verizon, so we spend a ton of $ for 5 Phones on VZ and 1 iPhone on AT&T.

Curious though if I goto the Blackberry Storm, will the new RIM Mac Desktop allow me to sync my Macbook with my Storm and keep my Calendar and Addressbook in Sync.

It is a Sad Day for me in NJ, I have 13 days left with my iPhone 3GS :eek:
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well Blackberry storm is a nice phone and I use it daily it will sync with your Macbook as far as I know however it is just as expensive lol... 30$ usd just for BIS(blackberry internet service) plus your bill so it is just as expensive ;(
 
Update: I returned my Tour because I didn't like it that much. I have the Droid now and I am so amazed. And I'm definitely never going to be back :) Well, unless the iPhone comes to Verizon. Haha. I despise AT&T.:mad:
 
For those waiting for iPhone on Verizon

Assuming (ass-u-me) that Apple is waiting for Verizon to transition to LTE before putting an iPhone there, does anyone really expect their 4G LTE network coverage to be better than AT&T's HSDPA coverage on Day 1?
 
PhightinPhils26 said:
I jumped ship too... 3GS just wasn't doing it for me anymore. The way that I use my phone the Droid suits me so much better!
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What do you like better about the Droid. Examples? I'm kinda interested in the Droid. It actually looks and feels like an awesome phone. I got to play with one the other day and I was rather impressed.
 
TheSpaz said:
What do you like better about the Droid. Examples? I'm kinda interested in the Droid. It actually looks and feels like an awesome phone. I got to play with one the other day and I was rather impressed.
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Well I know this reply was not directed toward me, but I thought I would throw out a few things that I really like about my Motorola Droid so far. The call quality and clarity is amazing. It is by far the best phone I have had for call quality. There were a few issues with echo when I first got the phone, but the 2.0.1 update really improved the call quality and got rid of any echo issues. The phone is fast and smooth. The notification panel was a little jumpy until the 2.0.1 update came and now everything is fast and smooth. The camera's auto-focus has also been fixed with the update and takes excellent quality shots. The user interface is top notch and the phone has plenty of horsepower to multi-task. I can listen to Pandora and use two or three apps at the same time and there is no lagging and app switching is instant. I love the fact it has a notification LED at the top so I know when I missed a call or have a new message. There is even an app that will let you customize the LED color for different alerts.

I have not had any problems with the phone crashing and so far I am at about 200 hours of up-time since my last restart. It seems to manage the memory well and it does not slow down even after several days of being up. I do recommend a restart every few days though since it seems to clear things out. The last thing that I love is that the touch screen is very responsive (think iPhone/Touch) and the resolution and color quality is impressive. It makes my Touch's screen look like crap next to it. Battery life is very good for a smart phone. Today I unplugged it at 7 AM and 14 hours later I am still at 40%. That is with about an hour of phone calls, gmail and exchange emails and sync, 2 hours of music listening and probably about 30 minutes of TV.com watching and 30 minutes of Internet and facebook. I think that is pretty respectable.

The biggest con for me is the fact it does not sync with iTunes. The way I loaded my music is by making a playlist that I wanted in iTunes and then dragging and dropping. I have about 1,900 MP3 and AAC music files on the Droid. I also put a few music videos on it. The music player is fine and works well, but it is missing the genre category. I really wish they would add that in future updates. Sound quality is good. I have used conventional headphones and I also purchased a Motorola S9 HD stereo Bluetooth headset to go with it and both work well.

I don't think there is anything wrong with the iPhone. It is a great phone and works well for many people. I am just posting this for people who might be considering switching to Verizon and the Droid. It is a great iPhone alternative and I think many people who are happy with the iPhone would be equally happy with the Droid.
 
TheSpaz said:
What do you like better about the Droid. Examples? I'm kinda interested in the Droid. It actually looks and feels like an awesome phone. I got to play with one the other day and I was rather impressed.
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It's like a jailbroken iPhone on serious good crack. I love the fact the applications are not sandboxed and they interact fully with the phone and other applications if they need to. For example I downloaded another SMS application from the marketplace that was free to replace the stock Android SMS application. The downloaded application does custom LED lights, vibrates different patterns, allows me to skin and set themes and a few other things. I also downloaded a new web browser from the market. Much like a real computer, the phone asked me which one I'd like to be my default web browser. Freedom, yay!

The notification system is light years ahead of iPhone. I can tell what I have unread (email, missed call, sms) without even touching the phone simply by setting the blinking color of the LED. Oh, it is really nice to be able to text and play my Pandora too. I'm going to cancel my Sirius subscription and just use Pandora/Slacker/Shoutcast or whatever else is out there for me to get music besides FM radio.
 
Good stuff guys! Thanks for the info!

I'm scared to switch to Verizon though. I've never had Verizon and no-sim seems kinda weird to me. I've always only knew AT&T and Cingular.
 
TheSpaz said:
Good stuff guys! Thanks for the info!

I'm scared to switch to Verizon though. I've never had Verizon and no-sim seems kinda weird to me. I've always only knew AT&T and Cingular.
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No reason to be afraid unless somehow AT&T provides better coverage where you live. Verizon does have a 30 day return policy for new customers so you would have some time to make sure it works for your needs.

Google just announced that Android has hit 20,000 applications. That number is still much smaller then what Apple has, but is still quite impressive.
 
I bought a Storm on Verizon as a 2nd phone and to try them/it out.

Here in South Florida, the service was spotty compared to ATT, and I really missed being able to use voice and data simultaneously.

The good stuff about a BB is the more tinkering you can do for alerts and a filing system for apps and such.

Hopefully the rumored 4.0 OS will bring similar things on top of one touch group texting.
 
That 20k figure is apparently not accurate. The real number is closer to 16k, according to Google.
 
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