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The firefox app for ios is a+++ as-is so i hope they have a good reason for using their own engine.
 
Finally. What was sense did it have to use another browser if something didn't work with safari, when they all used the same webkit anyways. Now allow emulation (they sometimes somewhat do already anyway) and I'll be a happy iPad user.
 
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Great news! I never knew how forcing people to use Safari regardless of what you call the application was ever legal.
 
This might make sense if the desktop/laptop browser market was actually competitive. It's not. Chrome controls 65% and the closest competitor (Safari) is around 18%.

It just goes to show how foolish it is to think forcing iOS to become the same as Windows/macOS will be more "competitive". Desktop/laptop software is totally dominated by legacy developers. It won't increase competition. It will crush it.
 
I can't see any iOS browser making a dent in the use of Safari unless they are enthusiasts because of the integration of Safari with the the Apple eco system and all the conveniences like key chain etc and extensions etc. I have no complaints with Safari on iOS. On the Mac it can be a different story. On Android the user defaults to Chrome for Android so using other browsers make more sense. Acturally my biggest complaint about Chrome of iOS is the lack of ad blocking and of course data collection but not being able to block ads is a deal killer.
 
You can create an alternative browser, but you're forced to use WebKit as the renderer, essentially just Safari with a different skin. The current Google browser on iOS uses WebKit and not Chromium, so it can't take advantage of many of the features that its desktop browser can.
Yeah, like double the RAM requirements...

With that said, I guess this will create some better competition and force apple to adopt web standards quicker for iOS. Ideally Safari for iOS gets "untethered" to the OS version and can be updated more often.
 
That’s actually not what you said. “Barely use” =/= “haven’t used recently”
Well I, for one, am delighted you've decided to pursue this line of pedantry.


And if you really want to do this, saying "last time I used it, it didn't have a feature which it now has" would suggest to any normal person that I hadn't used it in a while.
 
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As much as I hate how resource intensive both Chrome and Firefox is competition is a good thing. Allowing users the freedom to choose what they do with things they've purchased is a good thing.
 
Well I, for one, am delighted you've decided to pursue this line of pedantry.


And if you really want to do this, saying "last time I used it, it didn't have a feature which it now has" would suggest to any normal person that I hadn't used it in a while.
I somehow missed the “Last time I opened it” part which does nullify what I said. However, I can still pick out your assertion that Firefox can’t block ads which is untrue—the tracker protection option set to “strict” does just that. The address bar is on the bottom by default now. So maybe don’t be so matter-of-fact and dismissive about things you barely use and haven’t used lately. Take care.
 
So maybe don’t be so matter-of-fact and dismissive about things you barely use and haven’t used lately. Take care.
wtf? I wasn't being matter of fact? My whole point was that I don't use Firefox on iOS because it's just a WebKit skin, so I don't know about those features.

Don't know what I've done to get your back up but this has been one of the more peculiar exchanges I've had on here in a while.
 
Any browser vendor that hasn't been keeping a secret IOS build with their own rendering engine would be crazy. These projects have been around for a long time, they're just getting leaked now, possibly to apply pressure.
 
wtf? I wasn't being matter of fact? My whole point was that I don't use Firefox on iOS because it's just a WebKit skin, so I don't know about those features.

Don't know what I've done to get your back up but this has been one of the more peculiar exchanges I've had on here in a while.
Alright, forget it.

I don’t regularly use anything besides Safari either.
 
A good change!

I love the Mozilla Firefox browser. It has never disappointed or failed me. 🦊

SAME - still a fan after so many years! Firefox is my #1

Further: I am fine if Apple continued to require all iOS browsers use Safari WebKit engine; it would keep WebKit strong and not splinter the browser market. More choices for the smaller engines means that Chromium may ultimately win domination of the browser market = BAD.
 
This will be great as it means iOS users may finally get a proper PWA (Progressive Web App) experience. Safari has been missing features like web push notifications and background sync for years, as Apple were intentionally restricting app-like features in Safari to push people to use the App Store instead.

I hope regulators come down on Apple harder than the DoJ did when Microsoft started bundling Internet Explorer with Windows. Apple are essentially doing the same thing Microsoft did, except they're able to get away with it since they have low market share. It's actually worse... At least you could still install a different browser on Windows.
 
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