Mozilla Releases Firefox 3.5

[aleksandra.]

Finally drag and drop of tabs between windows :>. Now I only need to figure out how to get rid of this huge, ugly, awful, IE-like "+" button...

 

[Civic Minded]

I LOVE Safari but it cannot handle a lot of GIF's that people post on boards that I frequent. They often crash the browser and if they do load, they're not at full speed. FireFox can support them no problem, and load them fast and display them at the correct speed.

Exactly. I have the same issue with Safari, and I hate it because of how much I love using Safari. Hopefully they'll get that straightened out sometime soon. I'm not holding my breath though.

 

[elppa]

Firefox just doesn't interest me. Being a UI designer, Firefox's Java roots make it hideous to my eyes. The improper menus, wrong font sizes on buttons, stupid halos around every control despite having that turned off in my preferences.

I don't think Netscape/Firefox were ever written in Java. They do use a cross-platform framework though.

For most of your other sentiments, I agree, Firefox doesn't feel right. Some people will think I am being silly and not arguing with rational points, but that's just the way it is. I want the browser to do well, but it's just not my first choice. And yes, I've used it when it was called Firebird, I've used 1.0, 2.0, 3.0, 3.5.

I feel like I can't use FireFox anymore because I love the features of my MBP trackpad. Am I missing something?

The fact that three finger swipes for back/forwards work natively out the box without plugins?

 

[okrelayer]

why are fonts so large on firefox??

 

[Sehnsucht]

Yay...love it. Always been a big fan of "der Feuerfuchs."

 

[raybo]

Favicons in Safari?

I'll switch to Safari - which I think may be the best browser - when I can get a Favicons toolbar add-on (as I have in FF). I wonder if the Favicons will work with 3.5.

Ray

 

[iPhoneNYC]

I'm quite happy with Safari 4.0 and don't see a reason to switch.

 

[scottuf]

i've been using ff for so long, anytime i try using safari i just can't get used to it. take the search box for example, why just google or yahoo. what about imdb? wikipedia? amazon? ebay? i can go on and on. probably a plug-in out there to fix that, but i haven't found it yet.

 

[daneoni]

Have to admit...its blazing fast. On par with Safari 4. I still prefer safari's font/integration with the OS and the fact that FF doesn't auto-update for me is a real turnoff...that and the lack of RSS support. Live bookmarks does nothing for me.

 

[CPD_1]

I'm not a big fan of the way firefox loads pages, but it does seem to be quicker then it was.

 

[bbyrdhouse]

Here We Go Again

I try really hard to like Firefox but always end up going back to Safari or WKN.

I will however give FF 3.5 a fair shake and see if they can woo me.

 

[RebootD]

Amdahl is right - Firefox was late to the party (well, every browser except Safari was late, and IE has still not shown up) when it comes to color management. Using a site that almost certainly is designed to display correctly on a non-color-managed browser as your "proof" of Firefox's better color management is not really thinking things through.

I'm primarily a Firefox user because the add-ons are indispensable to me. And I was glad when Firefox added color management as an option (having been one of the bug filers on bugzilla regarding this) - but its color management is still occasionally wonky.

I did say he was correct in that Safari has had color management but it is pretty poor. 9/10 sites don't use tagged images so Safari ignores your profile and just throws up the defaults. Right now FF is the only browser to accurately display color managed pages despite the page actually using tagged images.

 

[sukanas]

yay! multi touch works!

 

[matthemercyless]

The icon has seen some updates too. Looks pretty sweet!

 

[Bad Paper]

huh.

So why is this page 1 news?

 

[macshill]

Still no Google Toolbar compatibility for me. Also, I was alerted that Real Player download any video won't work, either. That's a shame.

 

[Amdahl]

No Safari has support for tagged images but anything without one it barfs up the usual colors without using your profile. FF defaults everything, even untagged, to use your profile. I opened up pages, as I've stated, ESPN and FF looks correct and Safari 4 is neon.

Can you post a link to a specific image that I can use to compare? I don't notice anything on my MBP, but I've got an HP 3065 that I can test on.

 

[macshill]

So why is this page 1 news?

Yeah! More iPod Touch G3 rumors/news!!!!

 

[aleksandra.]

I try really hard to like Firefox but always end up going back to Safari or WKN.

I will however give FF 3.5 a fair shake and see if they can woo me.

Exactly the opposite for me... I try really hard to like another browser, but always go back to Firefox within a week.

 

[Krafty]

Firefox crashes a lot for me.

 

[lhotka]

Hey, how about disabling that feature, the one that saves pages in memory first?

p.s. If you really think to have found such a big memory leak in 3.5 (for a single tab) then please... be my guest and file a bug report here. And don't forget to add clear steps to reproduce the bug

Sure,

Open several sites in tabs, read and close them. Open some more. Read and close them. Have one tab left after visiting 12-15 sites and reading 2-4 stories per site (my normal morning routine), some with flash, some not. Bingo - 450MB of RAM (and yes, looking at that one, not Safari).

If that's not a memory leak, then what is? FF should release memory when the tab is closed, and it's clearly not. Then again, 3.0 routinely ran up to 300+ MB too.

I'm already in contact with Mozilla

 

[SCMaverick]

So long Safari 4.0, you're fun but you don't switch tabs as easily as Firefox. Safari just doesn't seem as solid as Firefox, I know that's a very scientific fact, but I just am not as comfortable with Safari.

Seriously, if Safari would switch tabs by Cmd-1, 2, 3... it would be tough for me to go back to Firefox (any tips are welcome).

Use glims. You can switch between tabs with the , and . buttons. Much easier than the Cmd 1,2,3 scenario.

It also has a lot of other pretty great features too.

 

[colmaclean]

Also, two finger twists, tabs left or right.

I can get the 3-finger swipes to work, but not the twists - is it the same action as is used to rotate an image?

 

[galactic732]

http://downloadstats.mozilla.com/

allows you to track the downloads

 

[RebootD]

Can you post a link to a specific image that I can use to compare? I don't notice anything on my MBP, but I've got an HP 3065 that I can test on.

Of course turn on FF color management in about:config
It depends on what you have gfx.color_management.mode set to.
0 = Color management is disabled for everything
1 = Color management is enabled for all rendered graphics including untagged images which will assume sRGB
2 = Color management is enabled for all rendered graphics except untagged images which are left unmanaged.

1 = what I have everything is treated as sRGB if untagged (which most are anyway)
2 = Safari mode: Only tagged images with color profiles will be managed.

visit sites with Red or Blue particularly:
espn.com
macrumors.com (look at the logo and compare)
this one is very noticable http://www.adobe.com/products/flash/?promoid=BPDEE
http://www.engadget.com/ the blue's are very off in Safari as well

Plus I've noiced skin tones on any site under Safari 4 make them looked almost glowing orange. I'm using a NEC 2690wuxi2 and while it has an sRGB mode I dont' want to have to switch modes every time I go from a browser to photoshop which is why I've stuck with FF ever since they allowed you to manually turn on color management.