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My biggest complaint with any non-Safari browser on Mac OS X: the browser window doesn't inherit some of the AppKit functionality I think it should. Especially Cmd+Ctrl+D, which opens a Dictionary tool defining whatever word your mouse is hovering over.

Things like that are OS-wide but lacking in Firefox, Chrome, etc.
 
you only need two browsers for your life:
chrome on win.
safari on mac.

period.
move on.

So, you decide for the whole world what browser suits their needs? ********.

meh its gay iron is where its at now

Well, supposing you are referring to the color of the "chrome", then so are Chrome and Safari.

Awesome :). Looks like i will be at least testing FF 4 to see if it's worth replacing Safari.

I will wait 'till 4.0 release, then see if it can entice me back from my Google fix :)
 
I just wish Mozilla switch Firefox engine to WebKit.

I do not think, that this is a good idea. WebKit is responsible for 90 percent of the security holes in Mac OS X, as you can see in the "Security Content"-Description of each Mac OS X Combo Update.

And i think, WebKit has serious performance problems, because it uses swappable memory, which can be in a slow virtual memory file on your startup disk, and which can slow down Safari and other WebKit based applications.
 
Downloaded the beta today and it seems to load a lot faster than 3.6.6 did on my iBook. Looks a little bit smarter by combining the stop and reload buttons meaning I need one less addon in future. Flash playback seems slightly smoother than in Safari. The tabs still have their close button on the right which is slightly vexxing. I always get a different theme but it would be nice if the default Mac theme followed the Mac tradition.
 
This is a blow to H.264 for the HTML 5 spec.

I don't think this is a blow per se, versus youtube converting all the HD (and 480p) clips to WebM. That is worse. Especially since there is no (currently at least) hardware acceleration.


Besides the HTML5 spec doesn't actually specify a particular codec for use...
 
Chrome already supports H264, they won't remove it in favour of WebM. Firefox needs to suck it up and support H264 too. Cheap bastards.

It's not about being cheap, it's about not having web standards owned by companies whose main motivation is profit.
 
Tried using Firefox...no real advantage for me over Safari 5, which I love.
vibe...

Are you kidding me? The fact that you can't even open recently closed tabs for one is a huge reason. (cmd+z can only open one in Safari 5) Having to go through the history isn't convienent.

No real advantage? What about the thousands of addons?? Try having safari crash on you or your pc shuttting off on you and losing every tab open. You can only go back one session. Addons like session saver are a life saver.

Try having 100+ tabs open and running under 500MB of memory. Definitely won't happen in safari. Try playing a 720p flash video in safari/chrome. Watch it eat 95% of your cpu. Open the same video in firefox and it stays around 50%.
Try adding themes to customize the UI. Can't do that in safari.
Even chrome's flashblock just hides the elements, it doesn't block it. It makes the browser slow down tremendously.
And what would I do without noscript? Why would I want to let a bunch of tracking/malware/advertising sites run their javascript on my browser?

I guess most people aren't power users and just using the same plain safari options is good enough for most people. But, I can't live without my 50+ custom addons in firefox. If I could port them to chrome/safari/opera I wouldn't mind switching if I had to.
 
When you press cmd + tab on Firefox, is anyone else seeing two instances of Firefox running? I tried to take a screen of it but I'm having issues :p
 
Half the performance in Peacekeeper benchmark and crap performance in IE9 tests. I'll pass.

You people seem to not understand what beta software is for. It's not meant to be your daily browser, you're only supposed to use it if you don't mind looking for bugs and filing reports.
 
You people seem to not understand what beta software is for. It's not meant to be your daily browser, you're only supposed to use it if you don't mind looking for bugs and filing reports.
I totally agree with your comment - I use Firefox 4 beta 1 mostly to look for browser bugs, and evaluate it on the sites I actually use.
 
That's funny because I've found Firefox to be faster than Safari (even Safari 5). However, I stick with Safari because I can view PDFs in the browser -- I don't like that Firefox automatically downloads it to my machine.

Unless of course, I can't find the option to turn that off in Firefox...?

You do realize that basically any feature Safari has over Firefox can be installed in Firefox with some plugin, right?
 
Does anyone know if the bug that opens two windows on mac is fixed? This one: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=531552
It's the out of band process (or crash protection as it's called in the release notes) that is causing this. Apparently they haven't got around to a proper implementation. Since this also seems to continually crash my Flash player and stuff I've disabled the crash protection completely. This also get's rid of the extra icon in the dock :) I found a post on SMO that explains how to do that (yes it's for Windows but it's nearly the same for OS X, the names are a bit different since OS X doesn't have dll files).

That's funny because I've found Firefox to be faster than Safari (even Safari 5). However, I stick with Safari because I can view PDFs in the browser -- I don't like that Firefox automatically downloads it to my machine.

Unless of course, I can't find the option to turn that off in Firefox...?
Or install the pdf extension that brings you the same functionality you get in Safari. The extension only supports the 3.6.x releases, no 4.0 yet. I hope they'll update the plugin when 4.0 is out but the lack of new versions in the last couple of month are a bit worrying.
 
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