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Mozilla Releases First Beta of Firefox 4

There hasn't been an interesting browser enhancement since tabs. I'm bored.

I guess I care about faster javascript engines, webkits, codecs, etc to some degree but I want new real features.
 
When was the last time something truly new and useful was done for a web browser?

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Safari Reader in Safari 5 is the single greatest feature of any browser. And it's new.
 
I'll give it a try when it's out of beta I think.

I dropped FF I think at around 3.3. It was getting so bloated and slow, no matter which of my three machines I was using.

I use chrome mostly now, it seems the fastest and lightest on it's feet. Safari is a very close second.
 
For some reason whenever I go to another Website, it creates a second Firefox icon in my dock that doesn't do anything. Other than fixing that and getting it to run faster, I really like version 4.

Oh, and when is Mozilla going to get on the ball and create a speed dial for Firefox? I know there are third-party add-ons but none of them are very good. Nowhere near Safari's.
 
Xero910 said:
Chrome already supports H264, they won't remove it in favour of WebM. Firefox needs to suck it up and support H264 too. Cheap bastards.
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Actually, I get the vibe that Google may cease supporting H.264 in Chrome.

Read this:
http://www.youtube.com/html5

"Google Chrome (h.264 supported now, WebM enabled version available via Early Release Channel)"

They wouldn't have put now there if they didn't have intentions of removing the support later.
 
To me, Firefox will never be an option for my primary browser as long as it still makes use of the ugly, slow, and clunkish XUL for its UI. It's the reason Firefox has terrible startup times, does that funny relaunch thing upon first launch, and generally doesn't feel "100% Mac".
 
Nebulance said:
That's funny because I've found Firefox to be faster than Safari (even Safari 5). However, I stick with Safari because I can view PDFs in the browser -- I don't like that Firefox automatically downloads it to my machine.

Unless of course, I can't find the option to turn that off in Firefox...?
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Firefox PDF plugin for Mac OS X
 
TuffLuffJimmy said:
Or perhaps it's because it's an emerging standard that is now supported.
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It doesn't say now supported. It says supported now. If you've been paying attention to that HTML5 page they've been changing the wording quite often and it didn't say that before. It said the same thing Safari and IE9 are currently listed as.
 
And it will undoubtedly suck on Mac, just like it has for the last 5 years.

Mozilla has 1 Mac developer for ever 50 PC developers.
Mozilla puts little to 0 effort into making a stable Mac release.
They don't even have a Mac Forum on MozillaZine. <-- That should tell you how much they care.
 
dyn said:
It's the out of band process (or crash protection as it's called in the release notes) that is causing this. Apparently they haven't got around to a proper implementation. Since this also seems to continually crash my Flash player and stuff I've disabled the crash protection completely. This also get's rid of the extra icon in the dock :) I found a post on SMO that explains how to do that (yes it's for Windows but it's nearly the same for OS X, the names are a bit different since OS X doesn't have dll files).
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I don't mean the issue with two instances of Firefox in the dock, I mean the bug that has been around since Fx 3.6 that appears when you open an external link and it opens the link you clicked in one window and the home page in another. This only happens when Firefox is not running already. Or is it the same as the issue with two instances of Firefox? Thanks!
 
Tried for a few minutes, nice,

but w/o 1password & firebug I'll wait for a later beta.
I can't do any work without 1pwd and either webkit inspector or firebug (preferred).
 
ArtOfWarfare said:
I think a browser that really needs an update is the one in iOS... it seriously needs the ability to Find text on a page, plus the tab system is slow and retarded
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iOS can only go so far until they have to add an  button to the iPhone hardware.
 
No way in hell. Firefox blows. I used Firefox for a couple of weeks a few months ago, and the browser crashed over and over and over. Besides, I don't think I'm ready for a new browser, it's like going to a different Internet.
 
TuffLuffJimmy said:
You're joking, right?
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I don't think it's a joke.
I find the Cover Flow history in Safari to be a really good feature.
If there's a page I remember I visited but don't remember the address I can just search for a word that has something to do with that page and it filters away every thing else. That the pages are shown as thumbnails helps it easy to locate.
 
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