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Originally posted by ethernet76
Also, from what I've heard, Long horn is meant to run on 2006 technology they expect to have. That's assume Moore's law holds up and intel can deliever.

Nope. They have a sliding scale requirement. So to run the basics of Longhorn you will need X Specs. To get a fair amount of eye candy you need Y Specs. To get the full blown meal you will need Z specs. Upon install of the OS it will set the what features are disabled and enabled by detecting your hardware config.

Its the Z specs that are expected to be through the roof with such things as subpixle displays and such. I don't really know all the tech going behind Longhorn but there are specs for Z that aren't going to be on the market until late 2004 if even then. As I’ve said before Apple has to focus on really making an even more impressive OS in the next 2 years. Apple is in a very nice position right now. MS isn’t going to be rolling out a new version of windows for another 2 years. This leave Apple to pick up a substantial market share if they play it right. I expect more security holes/viruses to creep up in the next 2 years and each time it makes headlines Apple will see more and more people look at Apple. But as of Fall of 2005 all bets are off. Longhorn is an unknown right now. Could be either a massive hit or a colossal flop. Some of the tech that I’ve heard rumored could make longhorn the most impressive OS Microsoft has released to date.
Apple CAN NOT sit around and gloat. I personally hope that Apple doesn’t release a new version of OS X next year. I would prefer to see a massive revamp to OS X or OS 11 to go head to head with Longhorn released 3-6 months prior to Longhorn. Take a nice bite out of that damn overgrown cow. :p :cool:
 
Re: Where is the airbag option?

Originally posted by ITR 81
Because you'll need one when it crashes.


ENOUGH!!! 2K and XP have successfully taken care of the problem of crashing and for those instances where it still does crash go to google.com and search on
OS X Kernel Panic
See how many hits you get.

No OS is perfect be it Windows or Mac OS. If you were talking windows 9x then yes. Crashes abound. The NT kernel is a whole different matter.

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looks fine.. not much different then my XP...

I'm sure they'll do better before they'll release it.. needs improvement though...

I'm not going to make any comparison between longhorn and OSX, I like both, but everyone knows which is better.. ;)
 
Re: Re: Where is the airbag option?

Originally posted by SiliconAddict
ENOUGH!!! 2K and XP have successfully taken care of the problem of crashing and for those instances where it still does crash go to google.com and search on
OS X Kernel Panic
See how many hits you get.

Enough yourself!

XP has crashed on me many times - maybe weekly. Hell, it even locked up. You can sit there and preach on the benefits of the NT kernel all you want, but it ain't crash proof.
 
I'll pitch in with the same--either you're just lucky, or you've never used XP day to day. It still crashes, hangs, freezes and gives incomprehensible error messages... just less of them now.

XP is FAR from the revolution it was hyped up to be. It's Win2000, with all of Win2000's problems, and a new name. Little, if anything, else.

Longhorn may look like it's got some good features, but almost all of them are already in the Mac OS. Video cards for 2D acceleration? Check. A dynamic compositing engine? Check. An SQL filesystem that allows... get this... fast searches? Check (only three years early).

And by the time Longhorn actually DOES come out, we'll be even further ahead. We got nothing to worry about. Move along.
 
It was frequent XP crashes that brought me back to the Mac in the first place. No operating system is ever going to be near perfect, but XP - at least on that HP laptop - was a constant problem.

Unfortunately for Apple, they've always had the best operating system at any given time and they never seem to be able to capitalize on it. When I had my last Macs, their market share was near 20% and now look at it.

Still love these things though, and that's something you never hear anyone on a PC say.

And if history is any guide at all, Longhorn is probably going to be a second half 2006 event anyhow. The only thing new here for Microsoft, I think, is the terrible press they're getting on virus/worm problems, but it seems that Linux, not Mac OS, is more and more the beneficiary of those stories, at least in the corporate world.
 
As the previous posters have stated, tho, 2006 gives MS a chance to do something truly innovative or revolutionary. They've got more resources than any computer company in the world, and what they come up with after 3 years and starting from scratch could very well be as much a milestone as the '84 Mac was.

Of course, if it's going to be Windows with a composite interface and a 'Sidebar', then it won't be world changing hardly at all, or as much as XP was. "Look how pretty..."
 
And do we believe that Microsoft will sieze this opportunity for change and dramatic overhauling of their core product? Do we think that they'll take this upgrade to heart and produce a truly innovative OS?

Have they ever?

What's different now?

(Interested to hear your thoughts)...

Do we think Microsoft is going to change, generally, or is the general consensus here that this is "more of the same"? I stand with the latter, personally, but I'd be interested to hear other opinions...
 
Their track record indicated "more of the same", but I simply cannot believe that a company of that size of Microsoft has no passionate people, or people who are not in a position to really think of something truly great. Large organizations are often pretty beaurocratic, so maybe not...
 
I know how easy it is to bash Microsoft and I also know it's a waste of time, but it appears true that they've never innovated anything. Embrace and extend, yes... work a problem as long as it takes to make it right, amazingly so, also yes, but I'd like anyone to point out any actual innovation that's come out of there that wasn't bought from another company.

It just gets so tiring listening to MS in the person of Bill Gates, Steve Ballmer, or others talking about "building great software" and "innovating", especially when they're under the gun of the Justice Dept or some other critical agency. It strikes me as a lot like Bill Clinton "getting back to the work of the people".

Sorry for the rant. I'd love to see MS come out with something stunning. They certainly do have the people and resources for it; I genuinely wonder why they never have broken any real new ground. You'd think Gates would love to do it.
 
bill gates is a loser. Really, he buys, crushes, or steals - gives it a new name - and calls it his idea and innovation.

apple and jobs are losers too. really, they make underpowered hardware with prices that make them prohibative for people to buy. They also dont offer upgrade pricing on their like their main competitor does.

no-one is perfect. If you ask me apple is worse. Yet i still own a mac.
 
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