mSATA PCIe SSD controller

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  1. warimono macrumors newbie

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    Been looking for a PCIe + SATA setup for my 3,1 and found these:

    http://www.addonics.com/category/msata_adapter.php

    Anyone ever use 'em?
    Price is right and this:

    "
    Supported OS: any OS with built-in AHCI driver, Windows XP (driver required)
    All modern OSs such as Windows 7, 8, Mac OS 10.6 and later and the latest Linux kernel comes with AHCI support
    "

    Joe O
     
  2. phrehdd macrumors 68040

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    I haven't used this particular card but I know Addonics pretty well and they do decent by their products.

    Is there any reason to get mSATA as opposed to a card that holds a couple of 2.5" SSD/laptop drives?
     
  3. 666sheep macrumors 68040

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    Price of mSATA adapter. Sonnet Tempo Pro is $300 and offers +/- the same speed as Addonics one. Addonics 2x mSATA SSD adapter is also known as Lycom PE-126.
     
  4. m4v3r1ck, May 19, 2014
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    Interesting thread! Quad mSATA PCIe SSD But, can it boot OS X and Windows 8 on both 2 SSD's in RAID0?
     
  5. shindom macrumors member

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    very interesting as I am looking to add to my mac Pro a PCIE SSD solution.
    I was leaning towards the usual Apricorn Velocity X2 with regular size SSD, but this Quad mSATA solution seems a better deal as mSATA drives are not that much expensive than the regular 2.5" SSD and possible future expansion (4 sockets).

    today's price comparison from Amazon:

    • Velocity X2: $89 + 2.5" EVO 500GB: $249 = $338

    • Addonics AD4MSPX2: $60 + mSata EVO 500GB: $289 = $349

    so the price is similar but the addonics has 3 extra easy space for extra mSATA with RAID0 in the future. I also read in other threads that both cards boot OSX with no issues.

    I am leaning towards the addonics solution unless it is slower than the velocity ..
    Does anybody know if that card is slower than the Velocity X2 in a 1 disk situation ?

    Thanks !
     
  6. handheldgames macrumors 6502a

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    Looks like Lycom is sending more goodies our way via Addonics.
     
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  10. 666sheep macrumors 68040

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    LyCom mSATA controllers seem to be a good alternative for Sonnet and other cards. You can built 2TB RAID 0 array capable up to 1.6GB/s under $1600, where with 2 Sonnet Tempo Pros it's about $2200.
     
  11. ShawnF macrumors regular

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    I bought the Quad mSata adapter from Addonics. Happy to report you can both BOTH OSX and bootcamp (I have Windows 7 and 8) drives without any issues. Posted earlier in another thread:

    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1721573&page=3

    I am currently using 2 mSatas in JBOD mode - 1 running Windows 8 boot drive and another one as a video scratch disk for Final Cut. Planning to get another mSata and run the pair in RAID0. From what I have been told, the max speed you can get is close to 700MBs due the card being only a PCI-E 2X.
     
  12. m4v3r1ck macrumors 68020

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    Congrats! Thanks for your feedback and yet another PCIe add-on for my list. Please report back as soon as you have the additional 2 mSATA's. Wonder what the results are for 2 RAID's 0 for both OS X and Windows and if they're both bootable.

    ~ Cheers
     
  13. 666sheep macrumors 68040

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    Today my mSATA EVO SSD finally arrived and I'm impressed with Lycom mSATA Quad SSD card. TRIM supported OOTB (I had it enabled for Plextor), speed is pretty decent. I put 2x 128GB ones in RAID 0 and here is what I got.
    I'll update later with scores from MP 2,1.
     

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  14. m4v3r1ck macrumors 68020

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    Thanks for sharing and looking forward to your scores!

    ~ Cheers
     
  15. supercooled macrumors 6502a

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    How much faster would you say mSata is compared to traditional SSD?
     
  16. mikeboss macrumors 65816

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    same interface = same speed

    mSATA is just a different connector for traditional SATA interface.
     
  17. brand macrumors 601

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    I edited your question to what you were really asking.

    As mikeboss already pointed out, those interfaces are technically the same just with a different physical design.

    SATA 3 mSATA port = SATA 3 SATA port
     
  18. ShawnF macrumors regular

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    Did you use software or hardware RAID 0 when running the scores?
     
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  20. ShawnF macrumors regular

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    Thanks. The reason I asked is because I used the HW RAID option via Windows. And then formatted it as HFS+ in OSX. My scores are showing to be a good 100MBs slower for read and writes compared to yours. Not sure if it is because of my Msata speed (I use Crucial M550 256GB pair in RAID 0) or if it is because I am using the HW RAID mode. I am running the card is slot 3 of my Mac Pro 4.1 (flashed to 5.1). My Mac Pro is a 2.93GHz hexacore with 24GB RAM.
     
  21. LiamKelly macrumors newbie

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    Works fine until you try and boot to your bootcamp partition.
    --- Post Merged, Aug 5, 2016 ---
    The lycom (addonics) msata raid cards are pci-e x2 electrically (as are all the others I have seen), they are limited to about 800MB/s after taking overhead into account.
     

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