Telomar said:
Interesting, my Sys Prefs had somehow become screwed up. The "summary" showed it was dd/mm/yy, but clicking the Customise button showed mm/dd/yy.
Needless to say, it's correct now.
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Interesting, my Sys Prefs had somehow become screwed up. The "summary" showed it was dd/mm/yy, but clicking the Customise button showed mm/dd/yy.
Needless to say, it's correct now.
iomar said:
Even if the reason for the change is to break third-party chat apps from using your protocol? I don't think the 'update' was to really update anything at all, rather it was to put out a chat client that used a protocol so Microsoft could keep out other people using other clients to hook onto their network.
sibelius
MSN Messenger looks much nicer than the Windows version, but alas no functionality improvement. I'll use it though.
yawn....
are there really so many people using MSN messenger in the USA ?
i tried it out 3 times already in the last years... but never got past 2-3 contacts and then i end up uninstalling it and forgetting usernames untill somebody asks me to isntall it
i'm using icq since 98 (or was it 99 ?) and the only thing MSN offers for are those avatar but after a few days i turned them off nonetheless....
does MSN have server saved lists ? i can't live without that feature ...(using icq on mutliple computers)
are there really so many people using MSN messenger in the USA ?
i tried it out 3 times already in the last years... but never got past 2-3 contacts and then i end up uninstalling it and forgetting usernames untill somebody asks me to isntall it
i'm using icq since 98 (or was it 99 ?) and the only thing MSN offers for are those avatar but after a few days i turned them off nonetheless....
does MSN have server saved lists ? i can't live without that feature ...(using icq on mutliple computers)
Chealion said:
That would be a 'fuglification' , whatever the hell a 'fuglification'is.
Here in the UK we call it a fudge!!!!
iChat users need to SHUTUP!
It's official. I hate iChat users!
Attention all iChat users that keep saying iChat is better than MSN:
1)iChat isn't compatible with my life! My contacts use MSN!
2)iChat doesn't support video on my 500Mhz G3!
3)I don't know ANYONE that uses iChat or AIM.
So, for gawd's sake, please SHUTUP about iChat. Go ahead and use it yourselves. Be happy in your iChat world.
Let the rest of us complain about lack of features compared to PC MSN.
It's official. I hate iChat users!
Attention all iChat users that keep saying iChat is better than MSN:
1)iChat isn't compatible with my life! My contacts use MSN!
2)iChat doesn't support video on my 500Mhz G3!
3)I don't know ANYONE that uses iChat or AIM.
So, for gawd's sake, please SHUTUP about iChat. Go ahead and use it yourselves. Be happy in your iChat world.
Let the rest of us complain about lack of features compared to PC MSN.
guytoronto said:
i got the same problems oh well eh? am just going to get my famliy frist on i-chat then i will get my friends too. i will them a nice i sight. but the hard part is showing them how great my poowerbook is
captain kirk said:
fuglification - The process of making something fugly.
fugly - A slang word joined between the famous f-word and ugly to describe something unbearably ugly.
The icon is fugly.
That is nice... just because I don't use an application - that gives me no right to air my views?! lol.
Sorry, MSN 4 does not merit such a revision in version number. MS have been lazy.
Sorry, MSN 4 does not merit such a revision in version number. MS have been lazy.
uv23 said:How do you know what it includes? Have you seen the source code? The previous version of messenger for the mac would spontaneously disconnect on me every once in a while. The new one has not, thus far. That alone makes this a worthwhile upgrade. And as mentioned by another user, it does seem more responsive in general. Would you rather you didn't get any upgrades at all?
Pretty weak, but...
I agree that the boys down at MacBU didn't crank out the features (i.e. contact photos, audioconferening, etc.) but they did finally get one thing right: when I wake my iBook from sleep, MSN actually reconnects on its own... I can't tell you how annoying it was to reconnect after every sleep (well, I guess I just told you )
All in all, pretty weak update, but at least it makes it somewhat usable on a laptop that goes to sleep often. Plus, if anyone noticed, you can get rid of the ad bar now (I'm pretty sure you couldn't do that before).
I agree that the boys down at MacBU didn't crank out the features (i.e. contact photos, audioconferening, etc.) but they did finally get one thing right: when I wake my iBook from sleep, MSN actually reconnects on its own... I can't tell you how annoying it was to reconnect after every sleep (well, I guess I just told you
)All in all, pretty weak update, but at least it makes it somewhat usable on a laptop that goes to sleep often. Plus, if anyone noticed, you can get rid of the ad bar now (I'm pretty sure you couldn't do that before).
This is all that I need. I'm perfectly satisfied with MSN Messenger 4.0. I don't need the teenybopper bloat - eg. display pictures.
Voice/video would be cool, but honestly on my PC I never used it anyways.
I used to use ICQ for years - (had a 7 digit #) and wished I had something exactly like this. Attractive, simple, quick.
I don't know what you all are complaining about. Nobody owes you anything. Go ahead, keep whining, make yourselves look like idiots.
Voice/video would be cool, but honestly on my PC I never used it anyways.
I used to use ICQ for years - (had a 7 digit #) and wished I had something exactly like this. Attractive, simple, quick.
I don't know what you all are complaining about. Nobody owes you anything. Go ahead, keep whining, make yourselves look like idiots.
g.money said:
Yeah I noticed that too, very useful
You've been able to do that since at least 3.5.
Loaded it, played with it, loaded aMSN back up. Its a good update for the simple fact that it doesnt just disconect all the time, but the fact that i can use emoticons that are quite childish is kinda crappy. The only thing I wish were included was the avitars and for me that would have made this update awesome for me.
This update serves a purpose, but for me aMSN serves it better.
This update serves a purpose, but for me aMSN serves it better.
jet3004 said:
You must not know any Windows users. Windows comes with Windows Messenger that works with MSN. MSN Messenger 6.1 is the best chat program on Windows. It supports Voice and Video chats. It's great. If the MSN 4.0 for the Mac supported Voice and Video I couldn't be happier but it does not.
I cant seriously believe that people actually have anything good to say about this pile of crap. I would love to use iChat, but no one i know uses AIM (im from the UK). All of my friends use MSN so i have to use MSN messenger. I thought 3.5 was quite good, first MSN i had, it lacked some of the stuff that the Windows equivalent at that time had, but it was OK. Looked better than windows. But this is hardly an update let alone a new version.
It has no new features that are actually useful to me. I wanna mess around and personalise MSN, even if i only use the webcam/voice chat once i want the option. Im pissed because it took lazy MS d'vers this long to do basically **** all. I d/led 4, but ive chosen to go back to 3.5, because the new icon is horrible. It looks horrible and doesnt go with anything else on my dock. See now if im basing my decision to use 3.5 on an icon then its clear that 4 is a lame update.
Let me mkae it clear i dont hate Microsoft and i think Office X is quite impressive. But this is the poorest update, especially compared to messenger 6 on windows.
It has no new features that are actually useful to me. I wanna mess around and personalise MSN, even if i only use the webcam/voice chat once i want the option. Im pissed because it took lazy MS d'vers this long to do basically **** all. I d/led 4, but ive chosen to go back to 3.5, because the new icon is horrible. It looks horrible and doesnt go with anything else on my dock. See now if im basing my decision to use 3.5 on an icon then its clear that 4 is a lame update.
Let me mkae it clear i dont hate Microsoft and i think Office X is quite impressive. But this is the poorest update, especially compared to messenger 6 on windows.
Skiniftz said:
So a sample size of 2 gives you enough confidence to say it's "all lies" and "doesn't work"?