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My feeling is Apple can go one of two ways.

Direction 1: Mac Mini like "Air" - kill off some ports, make it super small. Use the same external SuperDrive the Air does and maybe kill the internal optical drive. Make it basically a too-expensive-for-switcher machine. :rolleyes:

Direction 2: Update the looks a bit, possibly thinner like the Apple TV. Upgrade some of the specs so it's a bit faster and more powerful. Lower the price and make everyone happy. :p :D

Of course they can always keep the price the same... but it would be nice if they could lower it. ;)


I like direction two;)
But i think we shoudld talk a little bit more on what people think will happen to the imac (If there is a big Mini update there needs to be a relatively big imac update)
 
WHy would you want Apple to "upgrade" to a lower power mac instead of trying to beaf it up

Because the Mini-lineup would be re-thought, and because there's more to computers than the CPU. Mini would basically be split in to two. On the low-end we would get a Mini (or maybe they should call it Mac Nano?), that would have slower CPU, but other features would be improved upon, and it would be significantly cheaper than the current Mini. On the hi-end we would get the Cube re-invented. It would ship with faster CPU's (dual and quad-core), integrated NVIDIA or Ati-graphics + a free PCI-e slot for upgrades.

i agree with a lot of the people that posted on this thread that i would rather see a slightly bigger, but much more powerful mac mini than a slimmer weaker one! :)

Would it be "weaker" if it was considerably cheaper? And even if we compared similar prices, we could get something like this: RIght now you could buy a Mac Mini for $599 that has 1.83GHz C2D, combo-drive, 1GB of RAM, 80GB HD, Wireless-G and GMA950. Instead of that, you would pay $549 and get a 1.8GHz fanless Intel Atom, Superdrive, 2GB of RAM, 120GB of HD, Wireless-N and GMA3100.
 
The iMac will get Penryn processors, more RAM, and probably a GPU update.

If I was in charge they'd get black keys and mice too--but I fear I'm not.
 
one of two things i think:

2. appletv-like enclosure with a bluray/superdrive built in....

Thoughts?

Hummm.... maybe a twist here???? What if they had a version of AppleTV with a Mini inside? Wireless keyboard and mouse... sit back and compute on your HiDef TV and have AppleTV to boot!

I agree with most comments... unless they are going to make it the size of a coffee cup and drop the DVD drive, size is not an issue with the Mini. More speed and better price. The current configuration is just too costly by the time you add everything you need if you start from scratch... heck, you might as well splurge the extra $200-$300 buck and get a kick butt iMac!
 
Because the Mini-lineup would be re-thought, and because there's more to computers than the CPU. Mini would basically be split in to two. On the low-end we would get a Mini (or maybe they should call it Mac Nano?), that would have slower CPU, but other features would be improved upon, and it would be significantly cheaper than the current Mini. On the hi-end we would get the Cube re-invented. It would ship with faster CPU's (dual and quad-core), integrated NVIDIA or Ati-graphics + a free PCI-e slot for upgrades.



Would it be "weaker" if it was considerably cheaper? And even if we compared similar prices, we could get something like this: RIght now you could buy a Mac Mini for $599 that has 1.83GHz C2D, combo-drive, 1GB of RAM, 80GB HD, Wireless-G and GMA950. Instead of that, you would pay $549 and get a 1.8GHz fanless Intel Atom, Superdrive, 2GB of RAM, 120GB of HD, Wireless-N and GMA3100.


I see what you mean.
so basicly Apple will probably take the macbook air aproach on the mac mini!!

oh and nagromme your probably right and i also wish they would try and make their keyboards backlit..would be cool, but prob not gonna happen

I hope they switch to nividia i don't think ATI is as good and i would like to see a high grade GPU on some other mac computers besides the macbook pros and the mac pros!!
 
Like all rumors, I'll "believe it when I see it" but this would be perfect for me. I've got an LCD TV mounted on the wall in my kitchen, and there is just enough space between the back of the TV and the wall to squeeze an Apple TV so it's tucked nicely away. I haven't bought the Apple TV yet, because I like the idea that if I bought a Mac mini instead, I could have it do so much more. But there's no place to put the mini...

So a mini the size of an Apple TV would solve all my problems!
 
no no no! Stop it, apple! The mini is a *desktop,* get it? Miniaturizing the Air is one thing because there's a real need for the smallest possible laptop. But there's absolutely no reason to make a desktop any smaller than the mini, especially when doing so is going to a) raise prices, or b) reduce power (even further).

The current form factor is great. All the mini needs is some penryn chips and a $100 price drop (and some low-end dedicated graphics, as long as I'm hallucinating :rolleyes:).

ha... i love that you're yelling at apple over a rumor.
 
I see what you mean.
so basicly Apple will probably take the macbook air aproach on the mac mini!!

That's more or less the exact wording I used in my original comment few weeks ago :). Will Apple do it? I don't know. But that's what I would like them to do.
 
Perhaps it will become 'Apple TV +"

Have all the ability of the AppleTV (including ability to download HD rentals) but ALSO is a full fledged Mac.

A nice home theater PC option.
 
hope not

I hope the new models come soon.

But I hope the MINI does not get smaller. A lot of people here would like to have a full size disk drive which would make it wider and deeper, around the size of the :apple:TV. If the height is reduced, then you have less space for cooling. The use of laptop parts is probably one of the main reasons the price of the MINI is too high.

Lets use high quality desktop components, let it have a full disk and lets drop the price. If the mini was cheaper (100 to 200 less) it would fly off the shelf.
 
I highly doubt they will put quad-core in the minis - as a matter of fact i dont think they will even put quad-core on the imac..i hope they will but im sure they wont

THose CPU's would not be going to the Mini, it would be going to the new expandable Mac that is placed above Mini. Like I said, the Mini as we know would die, and it would be replaced by two lineups: one would have Intel Atom-CPU's and be very cheap, while the more expensive ones would have Core 2-CPU's, expansion-slot and the like. It would be different from the iMac, since iMac is an all-in-one, and this would be a headless Mac. Yes, it would be the much wished xMac :).
 
I predict we'll see a mac mini with the same footprint, but thinner than the current model. Slightly improved specs, and no Flash HD (too expensive).

Retaining the current footprint would make it work with most current accessories.
 
Why?!?

Oh. Right. Because the Mac mini has been criticized in almost all the reviews for taking up way too much space.

You reach a certain point where there there really is no need to continue to minimize form factors. Maybe that's all you can do once you've perfected a design.

Jobs: We need to update the mini's look.
Ive: I can't. I've distilled the mini down to the epitome of minimalist perfection.
Jobs: Think about sunflowers.
Ive: Done that.
Jobs: Drink coasters?
Ive: (points to mini)
Jobs: Okay then, make it smaller.
Ive: I'm kinda "smaller'd out" (points at MacBook Air)
Jobs: We need to update the mini's look.
Ive: (sighs) Alright. I'll make it smaller. (shuffles off)

hilarious, love it!!

in all seriousness though, i just don't see why the mini needs to be smaller. just update the crap out of it (processor, HDD, RAM, graphics card) and keep it the same price . . . and you've got something you can't beat!! it doesn't need to be any smaller.
 
THose CPU's would not be going to the Mini, it would be going to the new expandable Mac that is placed above Mini. Like I said, the Mini as we know would die, and it would be replaced by two lineups: one would have Intel Atom-CPU's and be very cheap, while the more expensive ones would have Core 2-CPU's, expansion-slot and the like. It would be different from the iMac, since iMac is an all-in-one, and this would be a headless Mac. Yes, it would be the much wished xMac :).

oh im sorry i misunderstood!

i would love for that to happen!!
it would be so awesome!:)
 
Why a "MacAir" doesn't make any sense:

A "MacAir" simply does not make any sense. Why? Because a smaller MacMini (MM) implies losing the optical drive. This change would introduce prerequisites to owning a MM: 1) owning a owning a host PC for software installs, -OR- 2) purchasing an external Optical Drive.

At present, the MM has the wonderful selling point of being a self-standing PC. If, suddenly, it were to require having another computer or external drive around just to install software, the MM goes from being an "all-you-need" petite PC to being a "not-much-smaller" incomplete PC, which needs another piece of hardware to function fully. Let's explore these options a little more closely:

1) Having a host PC is a burden, especially when it isn't in the same room as the MM. If you wanted to install software, you have to go into another room to do so. If you want to rip a CD, you have to go into another room to do so. If you want to watch a DVD, you have to go to another room to do so. Every time you want to do something with a disk, you have to go into another room.

Or perhaps a family only has space for one family computer. What would they do then? They would have to go into the attic/basement/garage, dig out their old PC, and reassemble it... simply to do one of the aforementioned simple activies on their MM. Their only other option would be #2,

2) buying an external drive. Why would you buy a PC without a disk drive if you had to keep an external drive attached at all times anyway? Or I suppose you could only attach it when you needed it, but then what? Put it in a drawer, inactive? Why add another step to what should be a simple process? Why remove a piece of hardware that's just going to be added back again. The purpose of shrinking the MM would be to make it more visually appealing, no? (Certainly desk space is not an issue with today's MM.) Well, it's not very visually appealing to attach an optical drive via donlgle.

Also, this method would be the ONLY way to burn a disc, be it an MP3 CD for one's car, or a DVD slideshow made via iPhoto. Of the entire iLife Suite, in fact, 4 of the 6 programs utilize the optical bay in a significant capacity. For iMovie it's just about almost mandatory, and iDVD... well, duh.

The omission of an optical drive from a desktop computer makes nary any sense at all, at least at this point in time. Are online software downloads becomming more popular? Yes. Are other forms of media distribution (i.e. USB flash drive) gaining traction? Yes. However, there are still people that don't have high-speed internet connections, and even some who don't have ANY internet connection. And there exist some software offerings that are simply too large to cost-effectively fit onto USB flash or other media. Optical media is still too vital to be ripped from our desktops. Plus, introduction of BluRay - yet another form of optical media - will extend the lifespan of spinning reflective discs for another ten years. Despite how frequently or infrequently you may use it, it will continue to be the most wide-spread and cost-effective way to store data for many years to come.

The omission of an optical drive in a future MM would not better the unit in any way, and, in my opinion, would be a grave error.

Despite all the criticism to the contrary, I personally have two reasons to think a smaller Mac Mini is actually a good idea.

[parapharsed:]
1) cheaper-than-laptop portability
2) Custom installs

Niche and more niche. The MM is not meant to be a portable. It's meant to be a fully-featured, petite desktop. While I honestly do commend your unique use of the computer, Apple should not use your rare example as a model for a future computer. Secondly, custom installs, "carputers," etc. are extremely niche markets. As someone who is interesting in performing such an install myself, I still would not condone Apple's transformation of the Mini to fit such a market. Again, it would help few at the inconvenience of many.

-Clive
 
I'm not so familiar with all of the insides, but...

if Apple were to create a mini with the same dimensions as the Apple TV, then wouldn't that cannibalize ATV sales, since you could download shows and rent movies from iTunes in the mini? I think that a reasonable idea would be a redesign of the mini to be slightly thinner and contain a blu-ray drive. If it had the same footprint as the ATV and TC you could have a nice little Apple media center, complete with all the functionality of the ATV, a Blu-ray drive with full OSX, and Time Capsule to back everything up. They could all fit in a stack formation, like components in a home theater system. Just a thought.
 
one of two things i think:

1. No optical drive so a dedicated graphics card can be added with additional external superdrive as an option....

or

2. appletv-like enclosure with a bluray/superdrive built in....

Thoughts?

Good luck with the BluRay. If BluRay is nonexistent with the Mac Pro, there is no reason why it would be placed in the consumer Mac Mini. The whole point of the Mini is to convert those "PC users" with their own keyboard, monitor and mouse. Now, without an optical drive the switchers will have to BYODKMOD (OD for optical drive)? I don't think so.
 
Typical Jobs and Ive. They had a chance to put a desktop hard drive in the Mini and make it useful again. Instead, they're doing another experiment in how small they can make a computer.
 
Typical Jobs and Ive. They had a chance to put a desktop hard drive in the Mini and make it useful again. Instead, they're doing another experiment in how small they can make a computer.

We don't know what they're doing. This is just a rumour...
 
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