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Why?!?

Oh. Right. Because the Mac mini has been criticized in almost all the reviews for taking up way too much space.

You reach a certain point where there there really is no need to continue to minimize form factors. Maybe that's all you can do once you've perfected a design.

Jobs: We need to update the mini's look.
Ive: I can't. I've distilled the mini down to the epitome of minimalist perfection.
Jobs: Think about sunflowers.
Ive: Done that.
Jobs: Drink coasters?
Ive: (points to mini)
Jobs: Okay then, make it smaller.
Ive: I'm kinda "smaller'd out" (points at MacBook Air)
Jobs: We need to update the mini's look.
Ive: (sighs) Alright. I'll make it smaller. (shuffles off)

It's gonna be the cube all over again - new form factor - size of an iPhone- solid state - no optical drive - no graphics card - one firewire, one usb.
 
Lets use high quality desktop components, let it have a full disk and lets drop the price. If the mini was cheaper (100 to 200 less) it would fly off the shelf.

I hear it all the time .... If only Apple would have done this instead of that, the system would be so much better, it would sell better than sex and I would buy one.

If the mini in its current form does not meet your needs then it is the wrong Mac system for you, get a different one or go with a Dell.

Am I missing something, or did you just totally contradict yourself?

And I think that if we have issues about certain macs, we SHOULD voice them. It's pretty much a known fact that they have agents scouring the web, collecting feedback left by communities like these. How else would they know what their customers are looking for? I don't see them sending out surveys on current and potential Apple products, so they must rely on the feedback gathered by forum posts and web articles in addition to analyzing purchasing patterns and whatnot. In fact, I've been so outspoken about an xMac, I'm certain I'm on their "ignore" list by now.

What we need is volumes of people standing up and telling Apple what they want. It's clear that some people want a smaller MM, and some people want a larger MM. What I haven't seen is a request to leave the MM alone. Apple, I think, is getting the hint that SOMEHOW the MM has to change... now it's a matter of how.

Let's give them some feedback.

-Clive

yes, but the Macbook Airs seem to be flying off the shelves, so clearly :apple: is doing something right

There's a difference. There actually exists logical sense in shrinking a laptop. I personally wouldn't buy one when the 0.5" thicker, 2-lbs heavier MacBook is more powerful and $700 less, but for those who aren't on a budget or REALLY REALLY care about portability, the MBA *could* make sense.

Shrinking a desktop below its current size makes no sense whatsoever. I haven't heard a single person complaining that the Mini is too big...

My predictions are:

-That the Mac Mini will be renamed Mac Nano, will shrink (similar to how the iPod Mini became iPod Nano).

[yadda yadda yadda]

Remember, you heard it here first. :)

I've heard this all before and, no, the Mini won't shrink unless it loses the optical drive. Plus if you're going to try to fit a larger hard drive in there... good luck.

I really don't think Apple will cut the optical drive. *knocks on wood* I pray they're not that stupid.

It's gonna be the cube all over again - new form factor - size of an iPhone- solid state - no optical drive - no graphics card - one firewire, one usb.

You're joking, right? First, it's impossibly small. Secondly, what is the average user going to do with only 16GB of soldered-on flash memory when the OS takes up 8GB? They download two movies off iTunes and their device is full.

Oh and "no optical drive, no graphics card." Thanks for making those clarifications, because I was wondering where you'd put CDs in, and how a graphics card would fit inside a shell smaller than the card itself.

Do people honestly not know the impossible things they ask for?

Why do I even comment on posts like these?

-Clive
 
Suddenly I'm picturing Steve Jobs as Nigel Tufnel: "It's like, how much smaller could this be? And the answer is none. None more small."

I truly hope this rumor is only one part of something bigger or, even better, flat-out wrong. If Apple really is wasting their time making the Mac Mini even smaller, then they are officially clueless about desktop machines.

Right now, the sizes of the iMac and Mac Mini are the least of people's concerns. Top of Apple's list should be making the Mini worth its exorbitant price tag and fixing the iMac's display issues.
 
I can't believe that people are discussing seriously the idea of a mini without an optical drive. This must be a joke, right?
 
It's here! (I was inspired)

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I hear ya! What with this obsession with size? Especially for a desktop like the mini! It's crazy I tell Ya!--)))

I'd rather have functionality over a smaller mini! But, eh, that's just me! :)

You're not the only one.

yes, but the Macbook Airs seem to be flying off the shelves, so clearly :apple: is doing something right

The ultraportable laptop and entry level desktop markets have nothing in common. The thin and light design of the MBA makes it more portable for business travelers. The small design of the Mini makes it unable to compete with other entry level machines with 3-4 times the hard drive space. The only purpose it currently serves is to heard buyers turned off by it up to the 2.0ghz iMac.

It's here! (I was inspired)

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It randomly picks a program and boots it up.

I can't believe that people are discussing seriously the idea of a mini without an optical drive. This must be a joke, right?

Some have the Jobs traits where they like to think a few years ahead of where technology is and try to apply that to now.
 
...I truly hope this rumor is only one part of something bigger or, even better, flat-out wrong...
There remains the possibility that the rumor is based on some fact, but that the product isn't intended to be a direct replacement for the Mini. It might be positioned as a different product category, much like the MacBook Air was not a direct replacement for existing models.

Even if that were true, it doesn't mean the Mini's future would be assured. Hard to know how satisfied Apple is with the Mini's sales, but, much as I love mine, it wouldn't shock me to see them go the way of the cube. :(
 
Blu-Ray and HDMI

See, I think that they should have the option for a Blu-Ray in all of the new mac's starting June/July. They should also have an HDMI port for those that don't use a regular Monitor, but their HDTV as their monitor. Yes the Blu-Ray would cost more, and if it's an option, then the entry level price can stay the same. I really see this as a flaw of apple right now. They are not offering Blu-Ray on anything. On a PC you can get a Blu-Ray drive for $150 for your desktop. I saw someone had posted that it was $600. Yes, that may be, for the burner, but I only need a Blu-Ray reader and a DVD-RW.

The Mini is definately small enough as it is. I could stand if they took the Super Drive out and made it an accessory, but I would like it to stick with the machine.

Can't we all just get along. We need to unite against Apple, and tell them what we want, not fight against each other to see who thinks they have a better idea. If we all press the ideas to apple, it's more likely to become reality than saying, "My idea is better than your idea, cause you're dumb and don't know anything". It just doesn't work that way. I'm not saying to picket them, but these forums are a great way for them to get our opinions, but if you bash on other peoples opinions, then so be it.
 
I can definitely see Apple dropping the optical drive. Hopefully they'd cut $100 off the price too. Using the SFF packaging isn't a big issue. Intel might charge more for the chips though.

What I would like to see instead is a Mac Nano - using the new Intel Atom chip. They're coming out with a dual core version in Q3, so you could have the DC Atom chip at 1.8Ghz, 2GB of RAM, and a HDD inside the unit and have a power consumption budget around 25W under load, probably close to 18W at idle. The Atom chip is planned to be priced around $35-50, so they could price it at $399. Great email/internet box, but a bad HTPC since the CPU isn't that powerful (its an in-order CPU as opposed to the out-of-order execution found in all of today's modern CPUs). The BOM on the unit would probably come in around $175 or so, the profit margin is in line with apple's tradition.

Then they can beef up the Mac Mini some - discrete mobile GPU, etc for $799/899.
 
What about those 'slide in' iMac rumors prior to the release of the Mac Air?

Just wondering if the new Mini was the original Mac 'slide' of those rumors? A totally rededigned, much smaller would fit right in those new iMacs.

I am in for it.
 
I'm actually awaiting the update so I can buy this for my kids computer. A size reduction would be nice since their room is small enough (not that it's not small enough as it is!)
 
It's here! (I was inspired)

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I'd think it would still need USB ports for a keyboard and mouse. You can't assume than everyone's set up would include BT mice and keyboards. That said, I'd buy something like that for up to $500.
 
Take away... to do what? You'd have to have a keyboard, monitor, and mouse on your lap with this new Mac Mini.

I like the throwback to the DuoDock with the concept, but I have a hard time seeing the applications for a desktop within a desktop.
 
Ok i'm sorry, but that thing would be cool!


You wouldn't be able to do anything but surf the web, maybe some word processing but it still would be cool.

I don't think it's practical to make the smallest desktop in the world any smaller... WHO needs something this small!?! Honestly.
 
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