haha, you're a funny one! My self esteem has nothing to do with me wanting the iPhone 3GS despite me having a 3G. I want it because its a better device and I'm a nerd, so these things attract me!
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Multi-Core ARM (iPhone) Chips Due in 2010
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haha, you're a funny one! My self esteem has nothing to do with me wanting the iPhone 3GS despite me having a 3G. I want it because its a better device and I'm a nerd, so these things attract me!
Looks like the big upgrade next year will be to a dual core processor (perhaps with further internal refinements based on Apple's chipmaker acquisitions) and then in 2011 the big update will be to LTE internet (based on AT&T's rollout plans). I think the 3GS will be a great to have while waiting for two years for a dual core, LTE device (with network!).
I think this is where the iPhone is really going to take off and leave its rivals in the dust. Apple has spent a lot of resources on optimizing OS X at all levels for multiple cores in recent years, and while Palm, RIM, etc. can also use these multicore chips, and will no doubt have some threadable applications, I seriously doubt their tech will be anywhere near what Apple has because they haven't put in the time/effort/$ yet. Something that it's hard to just cram in on a tight schedule trying to play catch-up.
next year's keynotes will read something like this..
"announcing, our new iphone 3SS (super speed!) it's not x4 faster instead of x2 faster...it's so fast, it knows what you are going to do in the future and opens the app before you touch it!
one more thing....we now have the speed for background apps....steve, would you like to come out and demo this?"
crowd goes wild, the networks rub their hands for the money.
"announcing, our new iphone 3SS (super speed!) it's not x4 faster instead of x2 faster...it's so fast, it knows what you are going to do in the future and opens the app before you touch it!
one more thing....we now have the speed for background apps....steve, would you like to come out and demo this?"
crowd goes wild, the networks rub their hands for the money.
If they do put use the dual core processor in next year's iphone, isn't this going to have a big impact on the App Store? Its gonna get really confusing for consumers (this app requires 3G S MC or later?) and annoying for developers to choose whether to design to use the newest tech or not screw people with older devices.
This year I'm holding on to my 3G.
Next year I expect a multi-core iPhone with true multi-tasking and a revamped UI (nothing revolutionary, Apple is and has always been about gradual product evolution so let's not delude ourselves).
I figure that now that Apple has sorted out most of the laughable non-features like MMS or Copy/Paste they have time to start thinking ahead and come up with some neat UI changes.
For instance, I'd like the summerboard (is that what we call it?) to adjust when I flip to horizontal, maybe an App Cover Flow or something that at least shows some UI feedback from the device. Another example is a much needed customizable lock screen with important information accessible without having to "slide to unlock".
IMO, the 3GS is a transition product and I think we'll see the next big iPhone next summer.
Next year I expect a multi-core iPhone with true multi-tasking and a revamped UI (nothing revolutionary, Apple is and has always been about gradual product evolution so let's not delude ourselves).
I figure that now that Apple has sorted out most of the laughable non-features like MMS or Copy/Paste they have time to start thinking ahead and come up with some neat UI changes.
For instance, I'd like the summerboard (is that what we call it?) to adjust when I flip to horizontal, maybe an App Cover Flow or something that at least shows some UI feedback from the device. Another example is a much needed customizable lock screen with important information accessible without having to "slide to unlock".
IMO, the 3GS is a transition product and I think we'll see the next big iPhone next summer.
Whatever. There will always be something new in the future.
Guess what, a year from now, there will also be something new in the future, so would you wait forever?
Guess what, a year from now, there will also be something new in the future, so would you wait forever?
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But even then there will be some other proccessor waiting in the shadows.
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But even then there will be some other proccessor waiting in the shadows.
You don't see any apps now for PC and Mac that require multi-core processors. Recommended, but not required.
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The next iPhone might have an Apple created processor. Remember, they bought that chip company a year or so ago...
The next iPhone might have an Apple created processor. Remember, they bought that chip company a year or so ago...
apple could use this chip in two ways
1. programming for everything to take advantage of both cores, and thus increasing speed by a huge margin. (but this would require multicore programming which has been available on PC + Mac for years and hasnt really come into its own)
2. Use 1 core for the system, and the other for 3rd party apps, this should prevent slowdown in system performance.
1. programming for everything to take advantage of both cores, and thus increasing speed by a huge margin. (but this would require multicore programming which has been available on PC + Mac for years and hasnt really come into its own)
2. Use 1 core for the system, and the other for 3rd party apps, this should prevent slowdown in system performance.
don't forget more megapixels, autofocus, and nike+ support on the 3G S. But yes, your point is right - the 3G was the tick, and the 3G S is the tock.
All this thread is (and ever will be) are people who bought the 3Gs saying multi-core isn't going to make it into the 2010 iPhone and people who are waiting for the 2010 iPhone saying its going to blow the 3Gs out of the water. Plus a sprinkling of people saying the 3Gs isn't a huge upgrade and the people who just bought one getting all uppity. How predictable the Apple world is....
That much is certain.
There will always be something new in the pipeline. That's the nature of technology. The key is to purchase what you need now. Those who purchase a 3Gs will have the best iPhone available until the next model is released.
However, if you wait for the latest and greatest, you will end up waiting forever and never get to enjoy technology.
THE HUGE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE GPS ARE IN THE 3.0 SOFTWARE.. Yes the compass helps but its not so much the hardware. Tom Tom is case in point .. It is for the iPhone 3g as well as iPhone 3gs.
First, the headline is a little misleading. ARM doesn't "deliver" the technology in the way most people are thinking of, as they are fabless and don't sell their bare processors. They license their cores to people like texas instruments and samsung who build SoCs out of them. Before any traditional smartphone maker gets these cores, they have to wait fora SoC to be ready for sampling, then they have their own period of development. The only two people that can avoid this as I see it are samsung and apple since they both license the cores and make the phones and therefore having the ability to development technology at a faster rate than those who must wait for SoCs.
That being said, I don't see Apple as fearing Samsung for major smartphone market share (they've got RIM and potentially Palm to worry about). Therefore, they won't feel pressured to put out an A-9 phone in 2010 because it will alienate 3GS buyers and quickly segment iphone users into 3 hardware categories. A much more sensible upgrade scheme has them pushing out an A-9 iphone in 2011, about the time we can expect to see the first A-9 devices from competitors.