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Multi-Vitamin

BigPrince said:
Tell me about your multi-vitamin. I am in college and my diet isn't that great so I was thinking about taking a multi-vitamin. Anything I need to know?

Only rule is that the pill can't be huge because I don't swallow big pills very well.

Thanks
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Multi-vitamins are not all created equal. There are inherent problems in some.

A cheap multi-vitamin is held together by a "cheap glue," which will prevent a lot of the nutrients from unbinding, therefore keeping you from getting them. Get a well-recognized brand, and research it on the net first.

Most multi-vitamins are once-a-day. This is not enough. Your body cannot absorb unlimited nutrients in a single sitting... In fact, if your health/diet is bad, chances are you are not absorbing even close to max efficiency. Some nutritionists estimate that a single, once-a-day multi-vitamin may actually give the average person around 30-50% of the contained nutrients if they are lucky.

If possible, break your vitamin in half and take it twice a day. This gives your body two separate chances to absorb the nutrients.

Also, the latest craze is omega-3 fatty acids. If you don't eat much oily fish, which I know I don't, then try taking fish oil supplements or flax seed oil.

And of course:

A MULTI-VITAMIN IS NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR A HEALTHY DIET.

Primarily this is because nutrients are designed to be consumed as part of food, not separately on their own.

You cannot force yourself to eat spinach salad everyday if you hate spinach. Find healthy meals that you like and that are not ridiculous. Healthy meals should be healthy by nature, not by force. "Forced" healthy meals often have a list of ingredients that include these words: "low-fat xxxx, low-calorie xxx, sugar-substitute xxx, low-sodium xxx."

Avoid these foods that attempt to be the same thing as an unhealthy offering, just forced through low-fat, low-calorie substitutes; you won't like 'em and won't eat 'em.

Just focus on getting lots more veggies and fruit in place of extra meat, pasta and desserts. Have a fruit salad instead of cake. Load up on the broccoli instead of extra spaghetti noodles. Make salads the way you like 'em (I can't stand 'em unless they have something like nuts, dried fruit, or sliced egg).
 
redwarrior said:
Dr. Burgstiner's Original Complete Thymic Formula
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Does it concern you that Dr. Burgstiner received his Ph.D. from a non-accredited university and is not a medical doctor?

redwarrior said:
You would have to eat a TON of nutritious foods every day to get everything that your body needs. Do yourself a favor and take care of your body, so you'll get sick less and live longer and think better too!:)
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On what evidence are you basing this claim? It's simply not true.

According to a study conducted by the University of California, Davis, published in this month's Archives of Pediatric & Adolescent Medicine, "most of the healthy children and teenagers in the United States who are taking daily vitamin and mineral supplements probably don't need them."

According to the study's lead author, "Many of the children and adolescents who are using daily vitamin supplements may not need to take them, because they are receiving adequate nutrition from the foods they eat."

http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/article/19448
 
i to take centrum orange chewables every day. i have been taking it for a year now, and i think its made me feel healthyer/better. Regardless if its a placebo effect, it taste good.
 
EricNau said:
On what evidence are you basing this claim? It's simply not true.

According to a study conducted by the University of California, Davis, published in this month's Archives of Pediatric & Adolescent Medicine, "most of the healthy children and teenagers in the United States who are taking daily vitamin and mineral supplements probably don't need them."

According to the study's lead author, "Many of the children and adolescents who are using daily vitamin supplements may not need to take them, because they are receiving adequate nutrition from the foods they eat."

http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/article/19448
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I don't know whether foods today are increasing in nutritional value or decreasing based on soil composition, but I know our diets are often pretty bad.

In terms of whether we get the "nutrients we need," that is dependent on perspective. If you believe that meeting the RDA is all you need, then chances are most people who eat a remotely decent diet are achieving that no problem. The RDA standards are basically designed to say, "Get this much of this nutrient and you won't suffer any deficiency issues."

However, most experts agree you should consume well over the RDA. Some experts claim that the ideal amount of Vitamin C is some 3000%+ of the RDA. I used to regularly consume that much, too (Vitamin C powder).

One commonly held myth, however, is that we need 8 glasses of water a day. That's an exceptional amount of water, and more than ideal. If everyone did drink that much plumbers would be overloaded with additional work, LOL.
 
EricNau said:
Does it concern you that Dr. Burgstiner received his Ph.D. from a non-accredited university and is not a medical doctor?


On what evidence are you basing this claim? It's simply not true.

According to a study conducted by the University of California, Davis, published in this month's Archives of Pediatric & Adolescent Medicine, "most of the healthy children and teenagers in the United States who are taking daily vitamin and mineral supplements probably don't need them."

According to the study's lead author, "Many of the children and adolescents who are using daily vitamin supplements may not need to take them, because they are receiving adequate nutrition from the foods they eat."

http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/article/19448
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I researched a few health problems that appeared to be hereditary in my family, and found what we appeared to be lacking. Then I did the research on the ingredients in several different brands of vitamins. Formal medical training means nothing to me, in fact, it makes me hesitate more.

I started taking vitamins as a young child when my mom got sick, literally, of taking me to the doctor and never finding a solution to my problem (acute anemia). She begin to do her own research (at the library, no Internet then) and started me and my brother on her prescribed method of healing. I have been happy and healthy ever since and have always taken vitamins.

My children take them too. When we go on vacation for a week or more and forget to bring them we definitely notice a difference in the way we feel. My daughter hasn't been to the doctor since she was 3 (she's 17 now) except for the time we thought she broke her ankle.

I base my "claims" on my experiences and research alone. Everyone is different and has to do what they feel is right for them and their families. I also incorporate regular worship and prayer. To each his own. I DO spend extra money on vitamins, but I DON'T spend extra money on doctors, and I prefer it that way.:)
 
redwarrior said:
Formal medical training means nothing to me, in fact, it makes me hesitate more.
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Excellent, next time I need surgery I'll saunter on over to McDonalds instead of Kaiser Permanente. Their bathrooms are so clean they're almost sterile.

I also incorporate regular worship and prayer.
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I know, what good is chemo-therapy if you can just pray? Just imagine, people wouldn't have to fork over thousands of dollars on medications and complex procedures when they could just believe in God instead...
 
Badandy said:
I know, what good is chemo-therapy if you can just pray? Just imagine, people wouldn't have to fork over thousands of dollars on medications and complex procedures when they could just believe in God instead...
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I agree with your overall point, but I really don't think that's what she was saying....
 
Badandy said:
It wasn't, but I was taking her point and bringing it to its logical conclusion: If prayer and worship help, why do you need anything else?
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That is a wank.

You are not taking her argument to its logical conclusion. What you are doing is twisting her argument to suit your preconceived idea. :rolleyes:
 
furious said:
That is a wank.

You are not taking her argument to its logical conclusion. What you are doing is twisting her argument to suit your preconceived idea. :rolleyes:
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No worries, Badandy loves me and he knows it:p.

Maybe I shouldn't have spoken so freely, but after all, it's no big deal, right?:) I'd rather not perceive it as an argument anyway; I was simply stating what I believe based on my experiences and research.:cool:
 
redwarrior said:
No worries, Badandy loves me and he knows it:p.

Maybe I shouldn't have spoken so freely, but after all, it's no big deal, right?:) I'd rather not perceive it as an argument anyway; I was simply stating what I believe based on my experiences and research.:cool:
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Good on ya! And keep it up Redwarrior, it's sweet to see someone not lose their cool with this sort of stuff!

SLC
 
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