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Didn't Sony design and manufacture a 68k powerbook for Apple before? I thought I read that it was a PB 100
Originally posted by vitruvius
YES, its bad photoshop redo ( i did it in about 5min)
and
NO, i doesnt come from SpyMac it comes from ME i designed and modeled (you can see it at my web page with other of my MockUps) i also publish it in SpyMac to see the reaction but thats a different thing
and is not suposed to be photorealist but just ironic
but anyway ,great attention to details PonyBoy
Your funny, hehehe........I knew right away that it was the
same mock product you posted here a while ago......
I think the plastic wrap, lighting is right on.....the wood table eh, you could
do better but not in five minutes.
goodjob PUNK.....hehehe : )
I am almost positive that sony built the 2400c.
The 2400c was the ultra-small portable that has almost cult-like following in japan.
(even more cult-like than apple normally generates!
) neilt
EDIT - sorry, did some quick research...it was a joint project with ibm. not Sony.
Exactly! very good sir.....you will be notified by Apple to receive
your prize within 4 to 5 weeks.
anywhoo, I agree 100%........apple and sony ericwhatever seemed
to be in bed together.....and they also said that by NEXT YEAR this
technology will be very impressive......so it sounds to me that apple
will really have something to show around this time next year.
speaking of sony/ericsson - apple relations . . .
how about this?
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=ERIC_CHATPEN
http://otmtech.com/news010402.asp
"The Sony-Ericsson CHA-30 Chatpen Moving pen and paper into the digital age. Chatpen works via a mobile phone to let you communicate both digitally and on paper simultaneously."
bluetooth, but not released yet.
has InkWell all over it...
maybe a side note when Jag is released?
how about this?
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=ERIC_CHATPEN
http://otmtech.com/news010402.asp
"The Sony-Ericsson CHA-30 Chatpen Moving pen and paper into the digital age. Chatpen works via a mobile phone to let you communicate both digitally and on paper simultaneously."
bluetooth, but not released yet.
has InkWell all over it...
maybe a side note when Jag is released?
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I think that right now, an Apple cell phone might be in the works, but I'm a little skeptical because the cell phone market is very big right now (Nokia, Motorola, Sony/Ericson, etc.) and an Apple cell phone would probably cost more than your everyday cell phone... I don't really see Apple as a player in the cell phone market mostly because they're already small, and packed with features... You need to look for a product niche that really needs improvement. One that hasn't been made to fully work with computers... Look at Apple's digital hub, and find the only device that doesn't normally hook up directly to your computer...
I dont have my hopes up.
If Apple ever made a device for viewing videos outside your computer it will only be good at only one thing. It would only be good for transporting homevideos to and from imovie to a tv or computer. It probably wont let you take anything but an mpg4 file so it will be useless for taking your already existing collection with you. Plus it will be more expensive than the iPod. If they could only make a mini tv that i could use to watch computer recorded videos on a tv without dvd/vcds. Ad video in ports to new macs, and you will have a bunch of switchers that just want to be able to do that.
If Apple ever made a device for viewing videos outside your computer it will only be good at only one thing. It would only be good for transporting homevideos to and from imovie to a tv or computer. It probably wont let you take anything but an mpg4 file so it will be useless for taking your already existing collection with you. Plus it will be more expensive than the iPod. If they could only make a mini tv that i could use to watch computer recorded videos on a tv without dvd/vcds. Ad video in ports to new macs, and you will have a bunch of switchers that just want to be able to do that.
Sony Ericsson collaboration
Interesting ideas. I work with Sony Ericsson, so I can give you some background to the hypothesizing here.
The P800 is due soon, there's no date yet. The hardware is very fixed now but SE are looking to get the developer community involved, see this product as more of a PDA than a phone, with a very open environment for developers. Certainly they would respond favourably to Apple wanting to develop software to run on it. It runs Symbian OS, which is the current OS leader for the next generation of phones (Nokia etc), and is a direct competitor to Microsofts phone platform offering (an offshoot of CE). What you won't see any time soon is a rebadged or redesigned P800, though an iApp or two for it is possible. As for shared hardware for the longer term though... it's always a possibility.
The Chatpen is a VERY cool piece of technology. It's based on Anoto technology (www.anoto.com), which has Ericsson VC behind it. Basically it works on regular paper with a near-invisible pattern printed on it (this can be printed by any laser printer btw). The pen detects your writing and via bluetooth sends what you have written to your PC etc... What makes it great is that the pattern is not uniform, so the pen knows which part of the paper you are writing on. This means, for instance, that if you were doing a multiple choice the pen would know which boxes you were checking. Anyway, there is a good link between this and Inkwell - what the Chatpen doesn't do is handwriting recognition - the written marks are passed as graphics. Using Inkwell to turn this into type would have its uses. And an Apple designed pen should be easy enough to build. There's a great Wired magazine article on this too (http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/9.04/anoto.html?pg=1).
Another interesting device is the CG75. (http://www.sonyericsson.com/gc75/). This is a PCMCIA card that offers GSM and GPRS wireless network access. GPRS gives an 'always on' connection with very low latency making surfing with it actually bearable. Some mac drivers for this would be nice, maybe include the auto-network detection in OS X to use airport when available, moving down to GPRS when out of range of a WiFi network. Of course, if you have a bluetooth GPRS phone (like the t68i Jobs was using at MacWorld) and bluetooth on your mac this is obselete, as the mac will use your phone as a modem via bluetooth.
Interesting ideas. I work with Sony Ericsson, so I can give you some background to the hypothesizing here.
The P800 is due soon, there's no date yet. The hardware is very fixed now but SE are looking to get the developer community involved, see this product as more of a PDA than a phone, with a very open environment for developers. Certainly they would respond favourably to Apple wanting to develop software to run on it. It runs Symbian OS, which is the current OS leader for the next generation of phones (Nokia etc), and is a direct competitor to Microsofts phone platform offering (an offshoot of CE). What you won't see any time soon is a rebadged or redesigned P800, though an iApp or two for it is possible. As for shared hardware for the longer term though... it's always a possibility.
The Chatpen is a VERY cool piece of technology. It's based on Anoto technology (www.anoto.com), which has Ericsson VC behind it. Basically it works on regular paper with a near-invisible pattern printed on it (this can be printed by any laser printer btw). The pen detects your writing and via bluetooth sends what you have written to your PC etc... What makes it great is that the pattern is not uniform, so the pen knows which part of the paper you are writing on. This means, for instance, that if you were doing a multiple choice the pen would know which boxes you were checking. Anyway, there is a good link between this and Inkwell - what the Chatpen doesn't do is handwriting recognition - the written marks are passed as graphics. Using Inkwell to turn this into type would have its uses. And an Apple designed pen should be easy enough to build. There's a great Wired magazine article on this too (http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/9.04/anoto.html?pg=1).
Another interesting device is the CG75. (http://www.sonyericsson.com/gc75/). This is a PCMCIA card that offers GSM and GPRS wireless network access. GPRS gives an 'always on' connection with very low latency making surfing with it actually bearable. Some mac drivers for this would be nice, maybe include the auto-network detection in OS X to use airport when available, moving down to GPRS when out of range of a WiFi network. Of course, if you have a bluetooth GPRS phone (like the t68i Jobs was using at MacWorld) and bluetooth on your mac this is obselete, as the mac will use your phone as a modem via bluetooth.
Why ?
Why buy a Chatpen when you can get a wacom tablet for $99? and it has pressure sensitivity...
Why buy a Chatpen when you can get a wacom tablet for $99? and it has pressure sensitivity...
Because the chatpen works on paper... you don't need a tablet.
And you can design a form and print it on that paper so that filling in the form on the paper automatically fills it in digitally also.
Scenario - you are reading a magazine and you see the 'subscribe' insert, and want to subscribe. You write in your details onto the form with your chatpen, and ... you don't need to post it. Since you used a chatpen the details are automatically sent to the magazine subscriptions department (just as if you had filled in the form on the web).
Other possibilities - doctors charts, multiple choice exams, quick sketches, 'saving' your written meeting or lecture notes, added security for checks, etc...
And you can design a form and print it on that paper so that filling in the form on the paper automatically fills it in digitally also.
Scenario - you are reading a magazine and you see the 'subscribe' insert, and want to subscribe. You write in your details onto the form with your chatpen, and ... you don't need to post it. Since you used a chatpen the details are automatically sent to the magazine subscriptions department (just as if you had filled in the form on the web).
Other possibilities - doctors charts, multiple choice exams, quick sketches, 'saving' your written meeting or lecture notes, added security for checks, etc...
Re: Why ?
Did you read the post from the guy that works at
SonyErikson? It's the one above your original post....
He says something about using the pen for purposes that
dont require the flexibity of the wacom....plus you
would need a computer terminal for each wacom
tablet....not practical in situations that deal with
his example of the multichoice quiz.....anywhoo
apple will come out with a version much like
the one your thinking of But without the Tablet : )
(he doesnt say without the tablet in his post but
Im an artist and im dreaming : ) )
Did you read the post from the guy that works at
SonyErikson? It's the one above your original post....
He says something about using the pen for purposes that
dont require the flexibity of the wacom....plus you
would need a computer terminal for each wacom
tablet....not practical in situations that deal with
his example of the multichoice quiz.....anywhoo
apple will come out with a version much like
the one your thinking of But without the Tablet : )
(he doesnt say without the tablet in his post but
Im an artist and im dreaming : ) )
Re: Why ?
I'm pretty sure i saw some specs on sony's site that
stated that it did have pressure sensitivity.
Can't seem to find the URL, sorry...
Um, and it wireless.
___pencil and paper : 25 cents.
___wacom tablet : $99.
___sony chatpen : wireless.
sorry : )
I can see this being especially great for students.
No need to sound like a nerd typing during lecture.
Take notes on paper and have it record the text
on you laptop that's still in your backpack...
Or if you're crafty and get another student to
"take your notes" for you ;;>> (winkwink-nudgenudge)
(how would bluetooth handle that situation?)
Just don't loose the pen.
I'm pretty sure i saw some specs on sony's site that
stated that it did have pressure sensitivity.
Can't seem to find the URL, sorry...
Um, and it wireless.
___pencil and paper : 25 cents.
___wacom tablet : $99.
___sony chatpen : wireless.
sorry : )
I can see this being especially great for students.
No need to sound like a nerd typing during lecture.
Take notes on paper and have it record the text
on you laptop that's still in your backpack...
Or if you're crafty and get another student to
"take your notes" for you ;;>> (winkwink-nudgenudge)
(how would bluetooth handle that situation?)
Just don't loose the pen.
The Sony Ericsson Chatpen is not pressure sensitive. It hasn't been envisaged as a 'creative' tool beyond basic sketches etc. However, it is the first public Anoto based product, I see no reason why in the future a pressure sensitive version couldn't be made. If that was done you'd get the functionality of a graphics tablet but without needing the tablet (although Wacom has tilt sensitivity also I think). Also, you don't actually need the computer with you, the pen has memory which saves your drawings and then copies them to your PC when the PC comes online via bluetooth. Or the pen can send the pictures to your PC remotely (or a central server) via your cell phone (using bluetooth again). I could see some .mac services based on this, plus Inkwell of course.
Hi West,
Thanks for contributing... the information was very interesting...
Of note, I've been watching the anoto for quite some time... Macrumors actually had a link to it in April, 2000 (over two years ago) ( https://www.macrumors.com/pages/2000/04/20000414085359.shtml ).
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The PowerBook 100 was indeed built by Sony. A fine machine it was! Still have one.
I am almost positive that sony built the 2400c.
The 2400c was the ultra-small portable that has almost cult-like following in japan.
(even more cult-like than apple normally generates!
neilt
EDIT - sorry, did some quick research...it was a joint project with ibm. not Sony.
Coming soon: miniMac. Think OQO but slimmer and cooler.
"new portable device designed to bring postmodern multimedia goodness to the masses."
a translucent dildo ? (using wifi technology, of course)
a translucent dildo ? (using wifi technology, of course)
no no no I think you're wrong. I think it's going to be a Vibrator made out of Titanium or that hard plastic. It's called the iVibe. It'll have dual processors and super drive too.
Hmmm
Dildo ? Does it have pressure sensitivity ???
Well, the chatpen sounds like a fun idea, but I just don't see it becoming a extremly usefull device for all mac users.
What would be great is if apple added some of the features of the mindstor digital wallet to the iPod. So that we could download our images from our digital cameras to the iPod without a computer, and view a list of all the files and folders on the iPod. I guess they would need to add USB or a USB adapter to the iPod so it would work with all cameras.
Dildo ? Does it have pressure sensitivity ???
Well, the chatpen sounds like a fun idea, but I just don't see it becoming a extremly usefull device for all mac users.
What would be great is if apple added some of the features of the mindstor digital wallet to the iPod. So that we could download our images from our digital cameras to the iPod without a computer, and view a list of all the files and folders on the iPod. I guess they would need to add USB or a USB adapter to the iPod so it would work with all cameras.
Re: Why ?
One reason might be that the wacom tablet for $99 is pretty small (basically the size of an index card), and that price rises dramatically the larger you get. By removing the tablet out of the equation, it should be possible to use a much larger canvas.
Also, while the chat pen may not be pressure sensitive, that doesn't mean it can't be. In the Wacom tablets, I believe that it is the pen that actually registers pressure, tilt, etc.. In anycase, it wouldn't be a huge trick to add that functionality (well, not impossible).
One reason might be that the wacom tablet for $99 is pretty small (basically the size of an index card), and that price rises dramatically the larger you get. By removing the tablet out of the equation, it should be possible to use a much larger canvas.
Also, while the chat pen may not be pressure sensitive, that doesn't mean it can't be. In the Wacom tablets, I believe that it is the pen that actually registers pressure, tilt, etc.. In anycase, it wouldn't be a huge trick to add that functionality (well, not impossible).