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multiple investor and trading gurus are reporting this morning that the X won’t ship until December and that yields of the phone have not surpassed 10 percent meaning 9 out of then X iPhones are not fit to ship. The Story was first mentioned by Brightwire financial and now the street and other financial investing services are also reporting similar stories from multiple sources and also dropping their forecast for Apple’s year end quarter dramatically.

“Multiple sources expect Apple to announce the device will not ship November 3rd as previously planned due to low yield rates”.

Based on all the data out there, this it has been pretty consistent. Manufacturing delays and the production of these seem to be real and abysmal. One wonders if this won’t really be the flagship in 18 and no changes to the X in 18 will occur but a revamp of the 8 and 8 plus instead? Time will tell, but it is looking highly unlikely that 95% of the public will have an X in 18 regardless of pre-order time.
Without your source, I would say this title is clickbait.
 
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I mean it sucks if true, but I'm having a lot of trouble believing this one. For one, not many reliable sources are claiming this. No NYTimes, Bloomberg, WSJ or even Ming-Chi Kuo. Second, I can't fathom that they are under a 10% yield rate. There's no way Apple is throwing out 9/10 models that come off the manufacturing line. (Not really throwing out, but not shipping to a customer) They'd lose millions/billions. That claim alone makes me feel that this isn't true.

Yield is more complicated than that. In reality, most units can be reworked, not thrown away.

The 10% being quoted is probably accurate but is likely a first pass yield rate. If the camera system passes calibration before assembly and then requires re-calibration after assembly, then that's considered a fail. But it doesn't mean the entire phone thrown away. It can be re-calibrated by software.

The problem could be due to one component, several components, or several assembly stations. It's been reported previously iPhone assembly involves about 100 stations per line.

Low yield could mean Apple needs to slow down the assembly process which is costly in terms of labor.
 
It actually sounds like this is a bunch of media outlets picking up on a story from a small media outlet.
 
For what the article is worth, if this true, then I move to another phone. What is the intent of this thread? "Sorry, you'll have to wait or go find something else" motive?
 
Yield is more complicated than that. In reality, most units can be reworked, not thrown away.

The 10% being quoted is probably accurate but is likely a first pass yield rate. If the camera system passes calibration before assembly and then requires re-calibration after assembly, then that's considered a fail. But it doesn't mean the entire phone thrown away. It can be re-calibrated by software.

The problem could be due to one component, several components, or several assembly stations. It's been reported previously iPhone assembly involves about 100 stations per line.

Low yield could mean Apple needs to slow down the assembly process which is costly in terms of labor.

Yeah, that's why I kinda tried to clarify it a little. I didn't mean that they are just going to scrap the entire phone because one tiny piece isn't up to par, but it is just shocking to me that off the assembly line, 9/10 aren't good enough to ship to customers. I just can't grasp that high of a failure rate in the first run.
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It actually sounds like this is a bunch of media outlets picking up on a story from a small media outlet.

I can't say I'd blame you. I have a bunch of Apple products. I tried the S8 and Note 8 and loved them. I'm making myself wait for the X, but at this point if it got pushed back to Dec. or Jan. then it starts creeping closer to the S9 launch which is rumored to be as early as Jan. This also really throws off peoples upgrade cycle as well.
 
Yeah, that's why I kinda tried to clarify it a little. I didn't mean that they are just going to scrap the entire phone because one tiny piece isn't up to par, but it is just shocking to me that off the assembly line, 9/10 aren't good enough to ship to customers. I just can't grasp that high of a failure rate in the first run.
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I can't say I'd blame you. I have a bunch of Apple products. I tried the S8 and Note 8 and loved them. I'm making myself wait for the X, but at this point if it got pushed back to Dec. or Jan. then it starts creeping closer to the S9 launch which is rumored to be as early as Jan. This also really throws off peoples upgrade cycle as well.
Pay the extra 6 months and upgrade.
 
Just don’t think Apple would of announced the November date if it had any doubts that the iPhones would be ready to ship ....Many analysts have predicted that there will be 12 million ready for the launch weekend and I think that is more likely the case as if Apple did delay the phone it would destroy there stock price and there holiday quarter.... no way they have messed up this bad to have a 90% failure rate they wouldn’t even begin mass production if they thought it was that hard to make....
 
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the old adage where there is smoke there is fire certainly could apply here.

No matter how much smoke you puff on this, it just isn't going to make a fire. Might as well be claiming the Russians are behind delays that won't actually happen.
 
What is with you guys? Can Apple honestly do no wrong in your eyes?

They’ve already botched this release with the delay to Nov 3, and you can’t believe that it may happen again?

I am not saying reports necessarily mean it’s trur. But your automatic denial is preposterous.

For me, anything is possible. But most likely scenario is that Apple is suffering production issues, and will release a very few on Nov 3, with most being delayed.

No one will really know the difference since this was expected for many orders anyways.
 
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They have been saying a 10% yield on the iPhone X since at least August probably before that. You’re gonna tell me that in 2 full months they haven’t been able to increase the production rate? If that is true, that they haven’t been able to increase it, then heads should roll. This would be one of the biggest production blinders of all time if that’s the case.
 
Just don’t think Apple would of announced the November date if it had any doubts that the iPhones would be ready to ship ....Many analysts have predicted that there will be 12 million ready for the launch weekend and I think that is more likely the case as if Apple did delay the phone it would destroy there stock price and there holiday quarter.... no way they have messed up this bad to have a 90% failure rate they wouldn’t even begin mass production if they thought it was that hard to make....
That's why released ip8. Apple could no way go all in on the X.
 
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Multiple investor and trading gurus lost their shirts today because Apple was UP. Another one bets against Apple and bites the dust, Apple is an unstoppable juggernaut with thousands of haters left penniless in its wake.

Tim Cook said iPhone X WILL ship on Nov 3 so it WILL happen. I hope you lost millions today spreading false rumors, I have emailed your post to the SEC.
 
Multiple investor and trading gurus lost their shirts today because Apple was UP. Another one bets against Apple and bites the dust, Apple is an unstoppable juggernaut with thousands of haters left penniless in its wake.

Tim Cook said iPhone X WILL ship on Nov 3 so it WILL happen. I hope you lost millions today spreading false rumors, I have emailed your post to the SEC.

lol. Can we see that email?
 
Multiple investor and trading gurus lost their shirts today because Apple was UP. Another one bets against Apple and bites the dust, Apple is an unstoppable juggernaut with thousands of haters left penniless in its wake.

Tim Cook said iPhone X WILL ship on Nov 3 so it WILL happen. I hope you lost millions today spreading false rumors, I have emailed your post to the SEC.
LMAO not sure how a post from a financial website that is widely available on the internet, posted to a forum warrants an email to KY or Alabama..... Cal and Sabban appreciate it!!!
 
Fanboys triggered. lol.

What is with you guys? Can Apple honestly do no wrong in your eyes?

They’ve already botched this release with the delay to Nov 3, and you can’t believe that it may happen again?

I am not saying reports necessarily mean it’s trur. But your automatic denial is preposterous.

For me, anything is possible. But most likely scenario is that Apple is suffering production issues, and will release a very few on Nov 3, with most being delayed.

No one will really know the difference since this was expected for many orders anyways.

November 3rd is the release date. It wasn’t delayed to that date.
 
LMAO not sure how a post from a financial website that is widely available on the internet, posted to a forum warrants an email to KY or Alabama..... Cal and Sabban appreciate it!!!

Securities fraud is no laughing matter, which is exactly what you committed.
 
Fanboys triggered. lol.

What is with you guys? Can Apple honestly do no wrong in your eyes?

They’ve already botched this release with the delay to Nov 3, and you can’t believe that it may happen again?

I am not saying reports necessarily mean it’s trur. But your automatic denial is preposterous.

For me, anything is possible. But most likely scenario is that Apple is suffering production issues, and will release a very few on Nov 3, with most being delayed.

No one will really know the difference since this was expected for many orders anyways.

Apple has done lots of things wrong in my eyes. What company hasn’t? But the Nov 3rd release date was never a “botch” or a delay. If you assumed that the X was coming out in September (and many, if not most of us did) that was our mistake. Apple never promised or suggested any launch date for the X except Nov 3rd. If you believe this was a fall back date and not their original plan, that’s 100% speculative. It’s at least as likely that a staggered release was always the plan so as to not overshadow the 8 and 8 Plus even more.

While anything is indeed possible, the likelihood of them announcing a release date for one of their biggest launches ever just a handful of weeks in advance, without being sure if they could meet their own self imposed deadline is not the kind of thing that a company does when many millions of shareholder dollars are on the line. If there was doubt, they would have given a vague “coming soon” type announcement and then announced something specific once they knew they could deliver.
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Securities fraud is no laughing matter, which is exactly what you committed.

Let’s get real here, the guy posted a rumour on a rumour site. It’s not that big a deal. Anyone who went out and sold all their Apple stock over it is not savvy enough to keep their money long anyway.
 
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Let’s get real here, the guy posted a rumour on a rumour site. It’s not that big a deal. Anyone who went out and sold all their Apple stock over it is not savvy enough to keep their money long anyway.

His post is an outright lie, he made up a rumor and posted it with the intent to profit from AAPL stock price collapse. If he was short AAPL stock then he's going to be in big trouble.

Please show us the email? Who did you even email?

https://denebleo.sec.gov/TCRExternal/disclaimer.xhtml
 
They blew it with this fake news release with the 10% yield rate. Yeah, maybe in prototype stage that was the case, but not full production. They may have had some fake credibility if they had claimed maybe a 50-60% rate. Someone got too greedy, salivating over a temporary downturn of the stock.
 
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