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Multiple U.S. States Sue Google for Violating Antitrust Laws With Play Store Fees
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Alternative in this case would be choosing iPhone over Android.
I believe YGR said the parties could expect a ruling in late August or September. They gave her thousands upon thousands of pages to review, let alone all of the expert reports and testimony from the trial. No matter how she rules, it will certainly be appealed.
If Google is getting sued when they allow 3rd party app stores, Apple is in for a world of hurt coming...
I don’t get why store fees are bad. If you sell beer or groceries to a grocery store you sell it for less than what the store sells it for. What’s the difference with the App Store?
Developers basically have a place on the shelf in the store and Apple takes a grocery store cut… bars are like this too.. and no one wants to sue bars for selling a bottled beer for 2-3x the price
Developers basically have a place on the shelf in the store and Apple takes a grocery store cut… bars are like this too.. and no one wants to sue bars for selling a bottled beer for 2-3x the price
There are huge risks on Android and Mac OS compared to iOS… you could easily install a bad piece of software on those platforms. And apps you do install can do almost anything they want once you give them permission
It looks like the Attorney Generals are defining the market as the Android operating system, not hardware.
And on Android, Google holds a near monopoly on app distribution (besides side-loading, of course). I wonder if this will have any repercussions for Apple? Or if this will influence YGR in any way?
As you stroke your evil beard.
What you mentioned above is one important factor, but still not the most important one.
Apple’s App Store have always had this payment system requirement, on the other hand, Google’s Play Store only starts to add this extra requirement after it has established its monopolistic status. In another word, Google used favorable terms to establish monopoly, then make use of that monopoly to force developers to accept less-favorable terms, that is exactly the definition of anti-trust.
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So these rules only apply to developers who use the Google Play Store.
Well... don't use the Google Play Store!!!
Isn't that one of the benefits of the Android platform? That Google allows 3rd-party app stores?
This is different than iOS since Apple doesn't allow alternative stores.
But Google does.
So if you're an Android developer... I don't understand the problem here. You can have people download your app from your website or whatever. Developers are allowed to do that! Remember? I think the term often used is "sideloading"
Oh wait... you want all the benefits and ease-of-use of Google's built-in app store... but you don't want to pay Google's 30% fees?
Well developers... that sounds like a you problem... not a Google problem...
That's why god invented Android. Simply purchase an Android phone, side-load to your heart's content. and find true happiness.
Easy.
Will these same AG’s sue to stop grocery stores from demanding which payment methods they accept, and how the mark-up wholesale prices on goods? This is more BS.
then get an Android... Apple never promised you the ability to sideload.
And if you don’t think Apple is next, you’re in for a shock.
Joke’s on you - I already have both. And I wasn’t the one complaining about torrent apps and emulators.
It's about time someone other than Apple is getting sued for a change.
That court document clearly shows how Google is different than Apple.
- Google acquired the Android mobile operating system (“Android”) in 2005. Google promised repeatedly that Android would be the basis for an “open” ecosystem in which industry participants could freely compete, and, in Google’s words, have xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. Google has not kept its word.
- Instead, Google has taken steps to close the ecosystem from competition and insert itself as the middleman between app developers and consumers. Unbeknownst to most consumers who own a mobile device running Android, every time they purchase an app from the Google Play Store, or purchase digital content or subscriptions within an app, up to 30% of the money they pay goes to Google.
- To collect and maintain this extravagant commission, Google has employed anticompetitive tactics to diminish and disincentivize competition in Android app distribution. Google has not only targeted potentially competing app stores, but also has ensured that app. developers themselves have no reasonable choice but to distribute their apps through the Google Play Store.
Google however has taken a open ecosystem and turned it into a closed ecosystem with I am sure many other phone
manufacturers ire. It goes a lot further than just android phones, its also concerns android tablets, and android smart TVs that are sold.
So would this effect Apple in the same manner, no. That is being looked at quite differently with the EPIC trial to see what the judge thinks.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.That court document clearly shows how Google is different than Apple.
Apple developed their own phone OS and didn't allow multiple phone vendors to use it. As I recall Android was given away freely to grow the market then Google kept seeking more and more control of the OS, while using the google store to sell applications. Yes Apple insists that developers conform to specific rules for keeping everything working well. But in that example you are specifically a relationship of one hardware/software vendor with third party developers.
- Google acquired the Android mobile operating system (“Android”) in 2005. Google promised repeatedly that Android would be the basis for an “open” ecosystem in which industry participants could freely compete, and, in Google’s words, have xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. Google has not kept its word.
- Instead, Google has taken steps to close the ecosystem from competition and insert itself as the middleman between app developers and consumers. Unbeknownst to most consumers who own a mobile device running Android, every time they purchase an app from the Google Play Store, or purchase digital content or subscriptions within an app, up to 30% of the money they pay goes to Google.
- To collect and maintain this extravagant commission, Google has employed anticompetitive tactics to diminish and disincentivize competition in Android app distribution. Google has not only targeted potentially competing app stores, but also has ensured that app. developers themselves have no reasonable choice but to distribute their apps through the Google Play Store.
Google however has taken a open ecosystem and turned it into a closed ecosystem with I am sure other phone
manufacturers ire. It goes a lot further than phones, its also concerns tablets, and smart TVs that are sold.
So would this effect Apple in the same manner, no. That is being looked at quite differently with the EPIC trial to see what the judge thinks.
Ah, so it's all bout you just wanting to have torrents on iOS...
You can do all of that already on Android, so why do you use iOS to begin with?
i always thought google had the coolest search engine in the early days of internet with hotbot as my favorite. google brings the best out of apple
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If you look at the stats , clearly Google is effecting most of the phone marketplace with all the manufactures using it with its more restrictive behavior, some of which is security/privacy based as android early on had way to many versions released into the wild at the same time. Naturally google worked on getting all the vendors in sync.
| Mobile Operating System Market Share Worldwide - June 2021 | |
|---|---|
| Android | 72.83% |
| iOS | 26.35% |
| Samsung | 0.41% |
I'm not a fan of the direction Google is taking here. The big appeal of Android is the openness that iOS doesn't have. This is a small step backwards. I hope they lose the case. I realise there are 3rd party stores, but the reality is if you want your app to be discoverable at all it needs to be on the Play store.
Hopefully Apple is next seeing how the App Store is the text book definition of antitrust.