Muscle Car Owner Targeted With Hidden AirTag Placed by Thieves

[Hmm]

Whenever they decide they want to restrict customer use of their property.

But according to you, Apple has already done this. And yet, they haven't gone in front of a jury.

 

[usagora]

In front of a jury. If they want to be able to bully customers they have deceived.

Can you screenshot something from Apple that you think qualifies as "deception" regarding AirTags?

 

[4jasontv]

Uh, yeah, that's the whole point - you don't own the software itself, but rather a license to install and use it. And you may or may not be able to sell that license. For example, with some subscription-based software you can't transfer the license to another user account.

Point to a court case where that was found to be a legal restriction of someone’s rights. I’m not convinced it been tested.

 

[4jasontv]

But according to you, Apple has already done this. And yet, they haven't gone in front of a jury.

?

 

[jredecop]

If I was driving a 2018 Dodge Charger and thought someone else was going to steal it I would make sure my insurance was paid up and jump for joy.

-kp

They are targeting hellcat vehicles. Charger, challenger, trx, trackhawk.

 

[4jasontv]

Can you screenshot something from Apple that you think qualifies as "deception" regarding AirTags?

I want to track my property but they won’t let me track my children or pets. Children and pets are type of property.

 

[jredecop]

485 hp of V8 power. Seems pretty muscle car to me.

Or the 700+ hellcat.

 

[MRrainer]

Don't EVs give you a range of miles you have left? So it's no different than a gasoline or diesel vehicle in that regard. And I'm sure the percentage of EVs compared to gasoline or diesel vehicles is very low in comparison, which would explain why less EVs are stolen than other vhicles.

You only see that once you start them.


If you can start them. If the Tesla has pin-to-drive, that's gonna be another hurdle.

If you break into a car and then can't start it, you're a sitting duck....

 

[Moonlight]

How is this any different than what a thief could do with a tile?

 

[cmaier]

How is this any different than what a thief could do with a tile?

When people do it with a Tile, apple haters who frequent this board have nothing to complain about.

 

[Moonlight]

"Muscle car."

I came here to see how long it took for a car enthusiast to comment about this muscle car not being up to their standards of muscle cars. Was not disappointed.

 

[mozumder]

to your comment? the one that everyone is pointing out you did not read?

let me quote the important bit:

"apple needs to make an airtag tracking app for android to alert"

here's the "full" answer you dont want but are going to get:

the only person or entity on earth that *needs* to do anything is you, because you need to read before you comment, expecting that what you have to say is more important that what has already been said.

which already includes reference to the android apple has already made for this purpose.

that you continue to ignore because you just want to feel dignified and right, even when you are wrong.

OK?

I still don't have your full answer on if those videos aren't staged.

I guess we will continue to wait.

 

[cyanite]

I hear this a lot. Can you point me at jury that found this to be true?

As far as I am concerned this an ubon legend. Just cause the developer says it doesn't make it true.

Ownership is for material goods. Ownership doesn’t make sense for things like software that you can trivially produce identical copies of. If I make a copy and give it to you, do you own it now? Then all people essentially own all software.

What you own is a license to use the software. This license can vary in terms, including transferability.

 

[jimbobb24]

Apple needs to release an Android app for AirTags tracking so people with Android phones can detect if they're being stalked.

I'm seeing a lot of videos on TikTok of people finding AirTags on their car.

Well they must be real! It’s TikTok

 

[usagora]

Point to a court case where that was found to be a legal restriction of someone’s rights. I’m not convinced it been tested.

You mean a case where someone sued a software company for not allowing them to transfer a license to another user's account? I have no idea if there's been a case like that, but feel free to find me one yourself or point to any current US law that states consumers have a right to dictate how a software company handles its licensing. I can't imagine being so frivilous as to attempt to sue over something like that. If I don't want to use, say, Microsoft 365 (software suite) anymore, then I simply stop using it and cancel my automatic renewal before the next annual billing period.

 

[jimbobb24]

He should just buy an EV.

Those are rarely stolen because you never know how much charge it has left.
And it takes more time to charge and you'll very likely leave a data-trail behind because the chargers note your vehicle ID.

It's a double-edged sword, for sure as Tesla (and other charger-operators, too) will likely provide interfaces for law-enforcement to track any car through HPC usage - because they identify to the charging-network.

Or a stick shift.

 

[mozumder]

Well they must be real! It’s TikTok

Reports of AirTag stalking are in police reports covered by the news as well.

 

[usagora]

You only see that once you start them.

Pretty much the same with non-EVs that use digital displays as well.

 

[mariusignorello]

485 hp of V8 power. Seems pretty muscle car to me.

And that’s not even the hellcat ?

 

[vipergts2207]

My M2 makes more than that and still has a factory warranty. Is it a muscle car?

Even the M2 CS only makes 444 hp. So that would mean your car is modified and not stock. Also, does it have a V8? Oh it doesn't? Ok then, I guess that answers your question. The 485 hp Charger also comes with a factory warranty, though I'm not sure how that dictates whether a car is a muscle car or not.

I have a '67 Mustang. Might know what a muscle car is. The muscle car era is gone. These new vehicles aren't muscle cars by anyones definition but those that own them and want to make themselves sound cool.

No true Scotsman - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It would be interesting to know how something like the 2018 Dodge Demon doesn't qualify as a muscle car. And a '67 Mustang would be a pony car if you're into splitting hairs as you appear to be.

 

[mariusignorello]

"Muscle car."

With the horsepower available on the higher trims it most certainly is a muscle car. Unless you're comparing fuel injection to carburetors and the old school petrol smell, it’s as close as you’ll get nowadays ?

 

[4jasontv]

Ownership is for material goods. Ownership doesn’t make sense for things like software that you can trivially produce identical copies of. If I make a copy and give it to you, do you own it now? Then all people essentially own all software.

What you own is a license to use the software. This license can vary in terms, including transferability.

Yes, I own it now. We have laws that protect customers to ensure they can sell things they purchased without needing to get the original sellers permission. Licensing attempts to circumvent this and can’t possibly hold up in court.

You mean a case where someone sued a software company for not allowing them to transfer a license to another user's account? I have no idea if there's been a case like that, but feel free to find me one yourself or point to any current US law that states consumers have a right to dictate how a software company handles its licensing. I can't imagine being so frivilous as to attempt to sue over something like that. If I don't want to use, say, Microsoft 365 (software suite) anymore, then I simply stop using it and cancel my automatic renewal before the next annual billing period.

My point is that I don’t think it’s ever been tested. If you tie software to hardware I purchased you lose your rights to claim you licensed the software when clearly it was bundled as part of the sale of the hardware.

 

[Macintosh TV]

I came here to see how long it took for a car enthusiast to comment about this muscle car not being up to their standards of muscle cars. Was not disappointed.

It's a muscle car only to those that own them and want to think they're cool. The muscle car era ended years ago. These Chargers are heavy pigs that can't do much of anything right. Even a straight line is a challenge for most that own them.

 

[Eorlas]

OK?

I still don't have your full answer on if those videos aren't staged.

I guess we will continue to wait.

that had nothing to do with the discussion, and you still havent gone back to any of your comments to edit in a formal apology, fully acknowledge your wrongdoing in failing miserably to read an article you chose to irresponsibly comment on.

get it done.

 

[themacdad]

If this happened to me I'd be like "Cool, free AirTag!" and reset it per these instructions: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212251

that wouldn't work.. they have to remove from the Apple ID before you can do that " they need to remove the AirTag from their Apple ID first. "