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I continue to be confused about how AirTags enable anything that couldn't be accomplished by a thief driving down a residential street at night.
This. And thieves at least would take out the speaker so it will be hard to be found. I believe this one just placed by his/her SO.
 
Why? Nobody has actually been tracked. There is zero evidence any cars were stolen because of airtags. There is only speculation. It works great for its intended purpose. And it has lots of built-in safeguards to prevent it from being used to track you, unlike, say, the cheap android phone, GPS-tracker devices, Tiles, etc. that people can already use. Or is this just the general anti-Apple bias that permeates here?
Actually this bolsters a concern with this product for a totally different issue I have with tags. Regardless, It’s a personal opinion outside of just this issue. Just not a product I want to spend money on.
 
Not really, because Tile didn't have a vast tracking network consisting of tens or hundreds of millions of devices that are almost everywhere. Only the few phones that had the tile app installed could report a tag's location. And GPS trackers are a lot more expensive, bigger, need a cellular plan and line of sight to the sky, and the battery lasts at most a few days.
Tile is on more than 40 million phones, mostly in the US. It's certainly also a vast network.

GPS trackers can be found for under $20 online. Less than an AirTag.
 
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Tile is on more than 40 million phones, mostly in the US. It's certainly also a vast network.
Source? I find that hard to believe.
GPS trackers can be found for under $20 online. Less than an AirTag.
Standalone trackers with a cellular connection? But even if that is true, they still need a cellular plan, are more difficult to hide, and have only a few days battery life.
 
How? I thought Apple doesn't collect device locations? Also, is it possible to track Airtags using the web-based "Find My"? In that case you'd not even need an iPhone after first adding the Airtags to your account.
But you need an iPhone to relay the location. If your iPhone is the only one around, your iPhone is notifying you of an unidentified AirTag.
 
Children are a type of property? Yikes. And what do you mean they won't let you track your pet? What's stopping you from doing so? You can even buy pet collars made to use with an AirTag. If by tracking your children you mean in a surveillance-type way, that is clearly not their intended use.
What do you mean yikes? It’s pretty standard that children don’t have the same rights as adults. Someone is responsible for them.
 
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Source? I find that hard to believe.

Standalone trackers with a cellular connection? But even if that is true, they still need a cellular plan, are more difficult to hide, and have only a few days battery life.
Here's your source. Directly from Tile.


Wat? You're assuming a criminal is gonna pay for a cellular plan or can't get a cheap SIM for $10 with 4GB of data and be set.

More difficult to hide? They're only a little bigger and are magnetic, so they easily attach to the bottom of the vehicle.

Why in the world does a couple days of battery life matter? You think they track someone around for a month or two before stealing the vehicle? They're not that patient. This isn't a movie. These are crimes of opportunity. They track it to their home and steal it that night when they know they're asleep. Done deal.
 
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Even the M2 CS only makes 444 hp. So that would mean your car is modified and not stock. Also, does it have a V8? Oh it doesn't? Ok then, I guess that answers your question. The 485 hp Charger also comes with a factory warranty, though I'm not sure how that dictates whether a car is a muscle car or not. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:



It would be interesting to know how something like the 2018 Dodge Demon doesn't qualify as a muscle car. And a '67 Mustang would be a pony car if you're into splitting hairs as you appear to be.
Lol, yup
 
What do you mean yikes? It’s pretty standard that children don’t have the same rights as adults. Someone is responsible for them.

That doesn't make them property. I don't care how "loose" a definition you're trying to give the word there, it's just not helpful to refer to any human being as someone else's property. And you most certainly cannot do as you please with your children or else the state/government can take them away from you (e.g. abuse, neglect, endangerment, etc.) - at least in civilized countries.

Anyway, I still don't understand why you think you can't use an AirTag with a pet or even with a child. You didn't respond to that.
 
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This is an example of how technology creates a new set of problems that didn’t use to exist. I’m kinda shaking my head here because things like Air Tag seem largely unnecessary as devices.

Folks who are not using iPhones or Android phones will not be able to detect the Air Tag (and we can’t assume that everyone has a qualified mobile phone). This really makes me SMH.
 
The statement by the Canadian police sounds pretty definitive (and even has a picture where one was found on a car):


Count me among the people who simply don't "get" why a car thief would see any benefit in using an AirTag vs just driving through neighborhoods until they spot a car they want to steal, especially since AirTags alert their own presence.
 
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This is an example of how technology creates a new set of problems that didn’t use to exist.

You‘re right. Cars are nothing but trouble. We should get rid of them immediately.


Folks who are not using iPhones or Android phones will not be able to detect the Air Tag (and we can’t assume that everyone has a qualified mobile phone). This really makes me SMH.
You mean other than the fact that they beep?
 
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This is an example of how technology creates a new set of problems that didn’t use to exist. I’m kinda shaking my head here because things like Air Tag seem largely unnecessary as devices.

Folks who are not using iPhones or Android phones will not be able to detect the Air Tag (and we can’t assume that everyone has a qualified mobile phone). This really makes me SMH.

Pretty much every technological advancement isn't "necessary" yet we don't just halt progress because people can abuse technology. That will never change. And AirTags are certainly not the first tracking device to be made.
 
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Yes, I own it now.
No. In my scenario I buy software that has taken time and money to develop, trivially copy it and give copies to 1000 people. You seem to say that those people own it now. After all, their copy is identical to mine. Anyone could download it, so anyone (and thus everyone) owns it. That’s why ownership doesn’t make sense for software.

You own a license to use the software.
 
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This article feels quite dodgy.

First, it hasn't actually been confirmed that AirTags are being used to aid in car thefts, just that they are being found on cars. So far, this whole "theft" angle seems nothing more than a theory being put forth by police and paranoid car owners. And as with any "theory" that gets repeated online enough times, it soon becomes "fact".

It's also worth nothing that Tile and Samsung trackers do not have a comprehensive solution for letting users know that they are moving with someone else’s trackers (AirTags notify a user of their presence after some time, and Apple recently released an android app fulfilling a similar purpose). So either their products never reached the critical mass needed to actually be borderline useful for anything, or people simply didn't think to kick up a fuss over it because anything without "Apple" in the news likely doesn't get as many clicks.

That said, I am not worried at all. I am confident that even as we speak, Apple is actively assessing how AirTags are being used in public and will update their AirTags firmware accordingly to address any issues that can occur. The best thing right now is not to overreact, because I feel that's what the article is trying to do for views - raise alarm over what is likely a non-issue.
 
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