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Music Labels Not Yet On Board With Apple's Cloud-Based iTunes Strategy

it would be awesome to store my library in the cloud...I hate having to sync my "correct" library across computers/devices that haven't been updated yet.
 
morespce54 said:
Well, picture this: You are in your living room with friends and happen to talk about a song you have in your iTunes Library on your computer, in your office downstairs. You connect your iPhone/iPod to your account and voilà, you can play the song from your living room with your iDevice... A 'bit like the Apple Remote App but in reverse...
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Isn't this exactly what AppleTV does? Or, if you had an Airport base station with AirTunes hooked to your stereo all you'd need is a remote method of controlling the computer in the office.

The only benefit having your library in the "cloud" does is make you music available from a remote location that has an Internet connection. If you're going to be listening to it in your home all it would do is waste internet bandwidth. You wouldn't even need Apple's streaming service if Apple still allowed streaming from an iTunes library over the internet like they did when that feature first came out on iTunes.
 
After using Spotify for two years now I would never want to go back to not use it. Apple must take this into consideration since Spotify is already working on getting into the american market. I am very satisfied with Spotify premium on my iPhone aswell and I sure hope that apple can give them a round for their money so we get an even better service ;D
 
Eat your heart out, Apple - we have Spotify

Well, who's falling for the myth of the cloud?

So far, the only cloud-based music service that's worth mentioning is Spotify, which is not even in North America. I have every reason to believe that if Apple tried something like that, it would cost so much more and it would attempt to lock the user into using as many Apple elements as possible.

Meanwhile, I'm just getting exploring Spotify's feature of playing my music that is already on my HDDs.



Did I mention that if you don't mind occasional advertisements, Spotify is free but there is a Premium version with even higher quality and mobile apps?
 
ULFoaf said:
What? The record companies are not on board with something consumers would love?

They'd like to go back to selling us a crappy 85 cent cassette tape for $10 that would wear out in a 5 years so you'd have to buy it again. Seriously, you could make a better recording yourself using an LP, a decent turntable and a good quality cassette!

I've never seen an industry so happy to bite the hand that feeds them, then wonder why everyone would rather not deal with them.
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OMG you actually bought prerecorded cassettes????
 
Too funny

As an old(53 YO)timer who well remembers how awesome it was to record 2 LPs onto one tape to use in the car,and then being overjoyed by the amazing Walkman,I can't help being amused by people distressed that they can't have all 2TB of freaking music that they own with them at all times!

How times(and what we perceive to be necessities) change!
 
E.Lizardo said:
As an old(53 YO)timer who well remembers how awesome it was to record 2 LPs onto one tape to use in the car,and then being overjoyed by the amazing Walkman,I can't help being amused by people distressed that they can't have all 2TB of freaking music that they own with them at all times!

How times(and what we perceive to be necessities) change!
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You raise an important point but so much music has been created since those days when people copied LPs onto tapes. :)

One important change has been the way albums are listened to now. Again, singles seem to dominate and hardly anybody seem to listen to albums from the first song to the last one. They are full of fillers, anyway! Playlists and recommendation-influenced lists appeared.

The other thing is that many people are cautious to rely on online storage as that raises technical requirements, syncing issues and of course, who knows whether broadband internet or mobile internet are available anywhere.
 
William Gates said:
Wouldn't Lala have to had these same licenses to stream their music? Would not these licenses be acquired by Apple when they purchased Lala?
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Thats what I was thinking too. That may be the primary reason they acquired them. I'm sure Apple doesn't need help with streaming media... they practically invented it.
 
Understand, I do not like the record industry, they rip off artists and consumers alike. However, why do people on these forums think the labels have to bend over backwards to suite Apple's every demands and needs?

Anyway, ISPs aren't ready to give consumers low cost internet to suite everything Apple and others want in a cloud: TV content, music content etc. To have everything accessible just isn't possible for consumers and ISPs alike: consumers would be paying a lot more. Not every ( even Western ) country has fast enough internet and bandwidth. Cell phone providers are in much worse shape for internet speed / bandwidth.

For a while, it will be only be viable for consumers to have high bandwidth content locally, instead of streaming on demand. Sure, you can stream several HDTV movies and music until the average consumer starts to exhaust their monthly quota. This is much different that all content coming from the cloud.

satcomer said:
I know the Music Labels are searching for money like they had back in the 1990's when CDs were selling like hotcakes. Now ever since there was on people sharing music with each other (original Napster, etc.) CD sales are going down faster than a Wall Street crash and the Labels are panicking. I feel when Apple first came to them to sell digital music they jumped on since they ignored the Internet before Apple. Now the Mac haters that are in the Labels now think Apple has grown to strong, so they started selling to Amazon & others are lower prices than $.99. Mark my words, the Labels will now try to brake away from Apple.
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I think its more of a fact that record labels don't want one single company controlling how their products are sold on the internet. They'd rather see several companies rather than one monopoly. It doesn't matter that its Apple, it could be any other company.

We've seen what monopolies do - abuse their power, i.e., microsoft, IBM, Bell et al.
 
The whole licensing thing is crap and not just from the consumer stand point. It's crap because the labels just got done going through a review process about how to charge radio stations and any other group that wants to stream music online. The requirements are a pain in the butt for a radio stations because they have to report artist, label, how many computers are attached or "listening" to the stream and the average tuning hours (ATH) or how long each person listened to each song. For a cloud based service like iTunes where you sign in this would be easier for Apple. Just crazy.
 
 
Spotify?

Just wait til Spotify land in the US, then you will have all your local and online music in your iphones and in every computer without sync or anything. Spotify is the best there is right now.

Once you try it, it changes everything.
 
kernkraft said:
You raise an important point but so much music has been created since those days when people copied LPs onto tapes. :)
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I'm sorry, but that's just dense. You think there was some lack of music before 1990? Like we couldn't have filled up a shelf or something?

The change is in the attitude. People are way too into entitlement.
 
harley3k said:
I've all but stopped buying iTunes music and use Amazon MP3 whenever I can.

I got tired of buying the iTunes versions, burning it to a CD-RW, then re-ripping as MP3, so I could burn to MP3 discs for use in my car at work
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If you have not noticed, since the beginning of 2009 all songs sold in the iTMS are DRM-free, no need to burn to CD anymore to get rid of any DRM.
 
I really would like to see an over-the-air synching of podcasts, at the very least the playcount, play position and deletion. These three things require only very little data to be transferred.
The next step would be automatic updating of podcasts on my iOS devices, preferably with the option to limit this to occasions when they are connected via WiFi.
Podcasts change daily, my music normally does not change daily. Currently, I sync my iPhone twice a day to update the podcasts on it.
 
OllyW said:
Perhaps their car stereo will only play MP3 files?
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Sure, but to get MP3 you do not need to burn a CD anymore since the DRM is gone. Just select the tracks and go to Advanced -> Convert to ... Much less of a hassle then to burn an uncompressed audio CD, and then rip this again to MP3s. You can do this for your whole library in one go (though it will take some time), burning CDs is one CD at a time.
 
manu chao said:
Sure, but to get MP3 you do not need to burn a CD anymore since the DRM is gone. Just select the tracks and go to Advanced -> Convert to ... Much less of a hassle then to burn an uncompressed audio CD, and then rip this again to MP3s. You can do this for your whole library in one go (though it will take some time), burning CDs is one CD at a time.
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That option is no longer available in iTunes...

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generuss said:
Just wait til Spotify land in the US, then you will have all your local and online music in your iphones and in every computer without sync or anything. Spotify is the best there is right now.

Once you try it, it changes everything.
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Yeah, I noticed there was a bit of a surge of Spotify mentions towards the end of this thread. I don't think most people care, because they haven't used it yet. It is an amazing application.

It is one of the few things that cause me to worry about Apples dominance in an area - so much so I would extremely happy if Apple just dropped some cash and bought Spotify tomorrow! Imagine that, all the licences are already worked out, just go in and take them...

Last I heard, the labels own 18% of Spotify that they bought for a song (Ha!)... Apple could get the rest surely.
 
manu chao said:
You are doing something wrong, as you can clearly see, these are purchased songs and do can convert them. Are you sure some of your selected tracks might not have DRM in them?
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I've selected the tracks and clicked Advanced as you instructed.

No DRM. Purchased from the iTunes store July 2009.

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