I did not say that of every person here. I was responding solely to the person addressed at the top of my post. I very much appreciate the help and suggestions offer here.
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I did not say that of every person here. I was responding solely to the person addressed at the top of my post. I very much appreciate the help and suggestions offer here.
Don't worry, I didn't take it personally at all. I get it wasn't directed at everyone. I can also tell you are appreciative.
I was just defending priitv8 a bit and saying I thought it was odd of you to say the "Apple's way or the highway" bit when you knew about all these options.
How's the specific behaviour of OS X related to the price of the MacBook? Especially if the problem can equally well be attributed to the 3rd-party peripheral you've chosen to use?
But if we boil your problem down to bones - I understand the only thing that's eating Gilbert Grape - are the hidden .DS_Store files Finder creates?
Assuming you won't be using iTunes and that your media player is not consent with them then I'd be thinking about a solution/workaround that would be set once and forgot.
My first impression is that you are using Finder to copy your media from a filesystem to the Sansa device. Is that correct? Isn't there an app for that, that would be smart enough to copy just the relevant media content? Just like iTunes syncs the iDevices? Unison seems to be one of the options available.
Because as I see it, the problem with Finder is that it will create .DS_Store even on mounted USB drive.
Strangely, SanDisk itself suggests that copying the files from iTunes to Sansa should be a workable solution. Did they miss the .DS_Store part? Or is it specific to Rockbox firmware?
At the extreme, there are even such brave options out there like Death to .DS_Store
Also writing a script would be a one-time effort to get the things sorted:
"Detect USB pendrive plugging in with applescript" or like this.
Another thinkable solution - to ditch Finder and use another file manager.
But I'd personally lean towards finding a suitable syncing app or script. Or perhaps build one by myself in Automator as a Droplet.
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@priitv8 I want to respond to a few of your points but first let me say I appreciate your taking the time to provide a number options for consideration. Some I've already seen, some were new to me. As I noted above, I'll ultimately settle on something to work around this problem. That said...
If I spend a premium price on a computer I expect both hardware and software to be commensurate with the price. Surely you don't suggest that the Mac pricing premium is based solely on the hardware. So, yes, I expect high-end laptop to be able to accomplish the same thing a $300 netbook can do: transfer junk-free folders to attached media.
No, this is a problem solely of Apple's making. A premium OS ought to be able to manage and present a users personal storage without mucking it up. Windows manages to do that and while Finder offers certain things not available in Explorer, the latter is considered by many to be the superior file management tool. In any event, it is not incumbent upon 3rd-party products to accept junk files.
Honestly, you can offer 100 or 1,000 different ways to solve this problem (and they'd be appreciated), but it does not change or negate this basic fact: this should not be a problem in the first place.
Secondarily, I find it offensive that Apple has arrogated unto itself the right to place hidden files in what I consider to be my property. A thousand ways to remove them (none offered by Apple) doesn't absolve that offense.
Anyway, I think we've gone around this enough. I appreciate the help. Notwithstanding my complaints, there a many things I like about the rMBP. I don't want to simply give up on OSX and run Windows, but at the same time I've got to call it like I see it when OSX blows it. When it comes to respect for and management of the computer owners proprietary data, OSX really blows it.
If I spend a premium price on a computer I expect both hardware and software to be commensurate with the price. Surely you don't suggest that the Mac pricing premium is based solely on the hardware. So, yes, I expect high-end laptop to be able to accomplish the same thing a $300 netbook can do: transfer junk-free folders to attached media.
No, this is a problem solely of Apple's making. A premium OS ought to be able to manage and present a users personal storage without mucking it up. Windows manages to do that and while Finder offers certain things not available in Explorer, the latter is considered by many to be the superior file management tool. In any event, it is not incumbent upon 3rd-party products to accept junk files.
Honestly, you can offer 100 or 1,000 different ways to solve this problem (and they'd be appreciated), but it does not change or negate this basic fact: this should not be a problem in the first place.
Secondarily, I find it offensive that Apple has arrogated unto itself the right to place hidden files in what I consider to be my property. A thousand ways to remove them (none offered by Apple) doesn't absolve that offense.
Anyway, I think we've gone around this enough. I appreciate the help. Notwithstanding my complaints, there a many things I like about the rMBP. I don't want to simply give up on OSX and run Windows, but at the same time I've got to call it like I see it when OSX blows it. When it comes to respect for and management of the computer owners proprietary data, OSX really blows it.
Windows-compatible - yep, see that all the time
Mac OS-compatible - yep see that all the time
Sansa-compatible.....nope, never going to see that on any OS packaging ever.
Those files aren't junk, they are an entirely-predictable part of the OS and even coded "hidden" in accordance with the OS standards to which developers should code.
Now thats a global software application approach...you might want to write to the lazy Sansa developers and point that out.....I mean what does Sansa do - try and play them, fall over and error or what??? LOLOL just imagine what else that "quality" code might be incapable of coping with...
I can't believe you seriously hold that this is the OS' problem.
Application developers code to the OS they want it to run on. Period.
Mac OS-compatible - yep see that all the time
Sansa-compatible.....nope, never going to see that on any OS packaging ever.
Those files aren't junk, they are an entirely-predictable part of the OS and even coded "hidden" in accordance with the OS standards to which developers should code.
Now thats a global software application approach...you might want to write to the lazy Sansa developers and point that out.....I mean what does Sansa do - try and play them, fall over and error or what??? LOLOL just imagine what else that "quality" code might be incapable of coping with...
I can't believe you seriously hold that this is the OS' problem.
Application developers code to the OS they want it to run on. Period.
Maybe on whatever planet you inhabit, but here on planet earth the OS used by 91% of personal computers users does not place hidden files in every folder its file manager touches, including the users personal data folders. So your assertion that this is customary, usual and "entirely-predictable" is just utter nonsense.
Windows generates thumbs.db files all over the place by default.
Yes, OS X could handle the data a lot better, it could put it in a database (along with the entire filesystem I hope). But, if you hadn't spent all this time complaining about it I'm sure you'd have a perfectly good workaround running right now.
Also "personal files" are not that much of a thing and it's such an elitist sounding standpoint.
Not "all over the place," only in folders that contain images and 30-seconds on Google reveals an easy way to turn them off entirely, built right into the OS. So, assertion lie and comparison fail.
Clearly you haven't read anything I've written in the thread or reading comprehension is not your strong suit.
This is too stupid to even be worthy of response.
Goodbye. /sufferingfools
That's why I said by default. And a lot of my folders have images.
I have, that's the point.
Only if Sansa are truly idiots would they code for OSX based on how Windows behaves....that is just too funny.
I agree, this thread has grown to almost nonsense by now. Still, let me conclude my appearance here with one last thought. Dot-files are nothing special in Unix-land, so most of us don't even give a second thought to 'em.
I personally prefer spending time on working with my content, rather than managing my computer, OS or files.