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Music Subscription Service Spotify Submits iPhone Application to Apple

kas23 said:
Huh? I'm definitely no Apple fanboy and have only ever bought one song from iTunes, but I do own it. It is DRM-free. I can do whatever I want with it - convert it to any other file, burn it, delete it, etc.
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Can you resell them? Does Apple allow that?

As to Spotify... I haven't tried it, but it seems like a nice service, especially the free service. Are you "renting" your music if you are not paying anything?
 
marco114 said:
last time i checked, you can rent movies at Apple.. I did it last night :D
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Not via a monthly subscription, which is what I was referring to.

As for the Spotify App, a major problem with all the Radio Apps right now is the lack of background processes. I do not want music or radio streams cutting out when I need to do something else on the phone. Apple needs to address this issue.
 
zedsdead said:
Not via a monthly subscription, which is what I was referring to.

As for the Spotify App, a major problem with all the Radio Apps right now is the lack of background processes. I do not want music or radio streams cutting out when I need to do something else on the phone. Apple needs to address this issue.
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This is exactly what Apple won't do. I would be seriously surprised if Apple allow this app, if they do though, there is no way it would ever be allowed to run as a background process otherwise everyone would dump the ims, I would have ditched it years ago if I could use last.fm as a background process!
 
Griffter said:
This is exactly what Apple won't do. I would be seriously surprised if Apple allow this app, if they do though, there is no way it would ever be allowed to run as a background process otherwise everyone would dump the ims, I would have ditched it years ago if I could use last.fm as a background process!
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That just isn't true. MANY people do not want to rent music. Not to mention, Apple does not make much money from iTunes...iTunes exists to sell Apple hardware.

I never listen to the radio for music, however I am a huge fan of talk radio. This is no way competes with Apple, and I really need it to run in the background.
 
Nokia Samsung and others will be happy to have Spotify

If Apple says NO to Spotify, then Nokia, Samsung, Sony-Ericsson and others will be delighted to say YES!


- Nicolas
 
yay, an itunes killer! finally! i wonder why no one else has tried to build one?

"free library of millions of songs." that you pay $10 a month for. free?

and that caching of streams... RIAA gonna come down on that like a ton of bricks. remember sirius players that could "cache" music? where did THOSE go? :rolleyes:
 
Apple may not have designed iTunes to make money, but in fact they make hundreds of millions of dollars. Billboard estimated that Apple's 2007 profits were $570 million; others have claimed that it was closer to $200 million. It's hard to know precisely because Apple doesn't break out iTunes numbers separately...but it's a big number.

Having said that, it's hard to know whether Apple would approve spotify or not. And, unfortunately, streaming radio isn't a *great* fit for the iPhone because it doesn't have the iPod functionality. Not just that it doesn't play in the background, but also that it won't accept commands from the earbud controller.
 
muskratboy said:
"free library of millions of songs." that you pay $10 a month for. free?
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They have free and paid subscriptions, the free ones have short ads every 5 tracks.

I use it in Spain and works very well, the day iPhone or Android apps come to life I will pay the subscription
 
how is this different than Pandora or Slacker?

if Microsoft's Zune/Winmo had a quarter of the features of my iphone i might have looked at it. i don't mind renting music. there is simply too much to listen to. i like a lot of stuff going back to the 1960's and a lot of current music. it's impossible to buy it and get any value out of it since i'll listen to the album maybe once a year if that
 
Personally, I have zero use for this type of app, in either a paid or free format.

I have iPod, WunderRadio, Pandora, Last.fm, AOL Radio, and the Sirius/XM app already on my iPhone. I get enough music/talk radio. And when I come across new artists, I buy the album so that I can control the sound quality (at least to a degree).

While I haven't decided to delete any of the above apps, I don't use all of them daily (the iPod/AOL Radio/SiriusXM apps I do).

That being said, I doubt Apple will let it through the App Store, unless as others have said, the subscription goes through the App Store as well.

And.....then AT&T might have something to do with the program's approval, either from the standpoint of wanting the subscription to go through them.....there's also the added overhead of traffic on their network. They may have something to say from Spotify being allowed, just as the issue with tethering.
 
I hope they can get Apple's support--this would make a nice companion to my beloved Pandora app :)
 
mogzieee said:
Also, would Apple really reject the app as it is? If it is approved, so many people will jump on the iPhone bandwaggon in the UK and sales will go way up. Or at least that's how I see it.
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I think that's why Spotify have publically announced that it's been submitted. It's to bring publicity to the app, which will cause outrage if Apple reject it. Especially since it's been reported in the mainstream media (Auntie Beeb)
 
Bjohnson33 said:
This is a killer app - something like this could be enough to push me over the edge to finally get an iPhone or iPod Touch.
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I have similar thoughts.

Spotify got me to dump iTunes, and it very well might make me to get iPhone.
 
kas23 said:
Huh? I'm definitely no Apple fanboy and have only ever bought one song from iTunes, but I do own it. It is DRM-free. I can do whatever I want with it - convert it to any other file, burn it, delete it, etc.
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You don't actually own it. You just have the rights to play the song anytime you want.

It kind of sucks that this is for the premium subscription alone. It will limit its popularity compared to the desktop version. Hopefully by the time it reaches the US they will have found out a way to offer a free version with advertising. If not they should reduce the price. $10/month is still a little steep. They would sell far more subscription around $6/month.
 
str1f3 said:
$10/month is still a little steep. They would sell far more subscription around $6/month.
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And they would sell even more if it cost $2/month. And Apple would sell more Macs if they cost as half as much as they do today. But would it be viable business at that point?
 
thecritix said:
I broke this story 8 weeks ago:

https://forums.macrumors.com/showthre...spotify+iphone

I reported it to MR but nothing...

Now it's bee a lead article on BBC news website and MR could have had it 8 weeks ago..

I TOLD YOU SO!
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It's much more of a story now that the app has been submitted and the real waiting game begins.

Oh, and the Spotify job posting was submitted by others as much as six weeks or so earlier than your submission. ;)
 
No problem! You'll get it.

Here in Taiwan, we have two, instead of one, iPhone App of this nature. Both are special applications for established and successful on-line music rental services (but, there is no iTunes music store in Taiwan).

You pay US$5 ~ US$6 per month for unlimited on-line listening and limited period (2 ~ 3 days) for each cached songs. There is no Apple tax in any form.

And no, I don't like it. First, you simply don't know when your favorite song will be pulled off the shelf (We rent the song from the service provider who rents the song from label company).

Second, you got narrow selection to choose from, even more so if your taste differs from the mainstream.
 
iTunes killer?

How is Spotify an "iTunes Killer", it's a streaming music service - like 'radio on demand'. You do not get to buy the music, to download movies, games and applications. It does not sync your computer to a portable media device or phone. It's simply a way of listening to music.

The two applications are entirely different, except for the fact that they both play audio.
 
Evangelion said:
And they would sell even more if it cost $2/month. And Apple would sell more Macs if they cost as half as much as they do today. But would it be viable business at that point?
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Yes at $6 because right now nobody is using the premium service. I believe it is because of the monthly price. I'd also say that they should sell a yearly subscription rate at a far cheaper price. I find it annoying that you have to consistently pay it monthly.

This is not the same situation as Apple selling Macs. People view hardware and understand the premium value of it as compared to software. An example is everyone paying hundreds of dollars for an iPhone but people considering a $10 app too expensive.

EDIT: Another reason I think the price should be reduced is because $10/month is equivalent to an album per month from iTunes. Fewer people will see the value of it because they usually buy about 10 albums per year.
 
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