MWSF Announcement Details?

[darkwing]

He's full of crap. I call BS.

This is some 16yr old kid who thinks he knows what's gonna happen. That's fine and all, but it's just not a good guess. Sadly, I think the only thing we're gonna see at MWSF is a flash iPod. HAS JOBS FORGOTTEN THAT HE'S RUNNING A COMPUTER COMPANY?

I don't think he ever knew he was running a computer company. I switched because I love my PB and I love OSX (because I'm a *nix geek) however, I'm very disappointed in being left behind by PC laptops this year.

Also, Steve is a moron anyway. An industrial designer here at work knows the guy who did the industrial design on the 17s, and Steve was always insisting they have the central hinge thing instead of two outer hinges. That's the reason the lids are always crooked when closed. Yes, let's be "trendy" so we can charge 30% more and then have it wind up crooked.

Don't mind me. I love my Mac. I'm just bitter today.

Steve

 

[drsuse]

no sale.

we'll have to see. it's only a month from today, anyways.

 

[aldo]

He's full of crap. I call BS.

The emac will not get a better GPU than the iMac G5. So that's out the window for sure.

The powerbook prediction is bogus too. 9800m in the powerbook?! hell no! That's not gonna happen, why? Because it consumes large amounts of power. the laptop would only get 1-3 hours battery life (and that's being optimistic).

You do realise that graphics cards only use up power when they need to? Even the desktop ones do. The m signifies mobile, which usually means less power requirements.

 

[Frobozz]

2) There will have to be updated Powermacs. They can't wait till June because they are already past their average time between updates and June will make this product way too old by that time. At San Francisco we will most likely see Dual 3's, Dual 2.5 , Dual 2 and single 2 line up will new ATI graphics cards and newer drives.

I disagree. Several of the last PowerMac updates (past 3 years now?) have occured in late February or early March-- and not at MWSF. Even if they were announced at MWSF, they weren't launched until a month or two later. The summer revisions moved to fall revisions. Look to history and you will see this.

The Feb/March revision will probably include a 2.8 or a 3.0 Ghz top of the line PM with an x800 GPU option. Some argue the architecture changes won't occur until the summer revisions, but I think we could see them in this upcoming one instead. They do need to migrate to PCI-Express GPU's and DDR2-533 memory.

3) And would Apple after such a long time give such a token upgrade of their PB line, like seriously .17ghz is pathetic and the only other difference is the 9800m GPU, i think we have a better chance seeing a G5 PB than these updates.

Well, although we may perceive it as a weak update (some of us), the last update was exatly that. A small speed bump and a better graphics card. At least this time they will drop the prices.

 

[mashinhead]

What is interesting is the 12" PB v. iBook. The gap is very, very small in real world terms.

I agree. before the ibook was moved so close to the powerbook it took a chunk out of its sales. No, with (or if) the price drop, the powerbook will eat into the ibook. They would have to drop ibook prices too. They're overlapping. Frankly maybe they should just consolidate the portable lines until they have something more advanced to offer.

 

[WankerWeasel]

We're not going to see any PowerBook updates at MWSF. eMac will get an update as it is the oldest item in the lineup. I can't tell the other things that will be updated. My lips are sealed but you'll be in for a good show.

 

[shamino]

We're not going to see any PowerBook updates at MWSF. eMac will get an update as it is the oldest item in the lineup. I can't tell the other things that will be updated. My lips are sealed but you'll be in for a good show.

Well, you picked an appropriate usename.

 

[joeconvert]

Flash, PBs and broken dreams

While yet another ipod would be just wonderful...

I echo the views of those looking for some substance in the pro line of mobile computing. Granted there are part availability issues (i.e. no dual core G4s shipping) and engineering constraints prevent the G5 from being the answer to so many mobile pro's prayers.

We can all go back and forth on who's fault it is, but the bottom line it is getting sad. I know many people toying with the Apple switch, but they are very unimpressed with the performance/$ ratio in mobile land.

Bummer

 

[lem0nayde]

I Predict the Powerbook G5.

I say Apple will surprise everybody and release a Powerbook G5. But then, they'll be brought down by several multi-million dollar lawsuits from people who's laps were severely burnt by the incredibly hot machines. It'll be like McDonalds coffee all over again.

Apple will then revert back two generations to G3 Powerbooks - just to be safe (and they'll in the original plastic clamshell iBook casing - for added protection.)

Joe

 

[BenRoethig]

You do realise that graphics cards only use up power when they need to? Even the desktop ones do. The m signifies mobile, which usually means less power requirements.

The 9800m (and its X800 sucessor) is designed specifically for the DTR segment.

 

[dferigmu]

iMac obsolete?

Wouldn't this make the iMac G5 obsolete? The only thing it would have over the eMac would be the screen. But the eMac would have an 8X Superdrive and better graphics card for hundreds less.

 

[quagmire]

We're not going to see any PowerBook updates at MWSF. eMac will get an update as it is the oldest item in the lineup. I can't tell the other things that will be updated. My lips are sealed but you'll be in for a good show.

The eMac is only older by one week than the Powerbook. What apple is going to let the powerbook grow stale(r)? I am sure apple won't let their pro laptop go stale for over a year. I say again if it was a mere G4 update it would of happened by now. I wonder if you could be the persons *source*

 

[Ups85]

First off, I highly doubt the eMac will be getting a G5

Second, the powerbook rumor seems about accurate...it seems we won't see a major upgrade until at least the summer

Third, I really think there will be some sort of hardware device released. What about an airport express with photo capability? What would be really cool would be if they put a wireless chip in the iPod, so you could play music and photos on your stereo and tv without having to go back to your computer. That would be the perfect answer to the media center.

Finally, it seems evident that we will see a flash iPod. Hopefully they will come up with something better than the screenless prototype.

 

[zelmo]

snip...Sadly, I think the only thing we're gonna see at MWSF is a flash iPod. HAS JOBS FORGOTTEN THAT HE'S RUNNING A COMPUTER COMPANY?

No, Steve just realizes he is running a company that can't deliver their computer products on time and in quantity right now, and he is doing the only thing he can do which isn't going to kill stock price - focusing on the iPod, that darling of Wall Street.
If Apple could deliver a PowerBook G5 and/or a 3.0GHz PowerMac G5, they would in a heartbeat. They want to sell computers, because they make far more money on them than they do on any iPod. Steve will continue to use his RDF-generating powers to keep the focus off of Apple's inability to upgrade under-powered computer product lines, and keep that focus on how freakin' COOL the iPod is.
In other words, Steve is doing his job, the only way he can right now. Sucks, but it's life. Can't wait for iPodWorld SanFran!

 

[shamino]

Wouldn't this make the iMac G5 obsolete? The only thing it would have over the eMac would be the screen.

That screen is worth an awful lot, IMO. Especially the 20" one.

And there's also the matter of size and weight. You can mount an iMac on a swing-arm and carry it around the house under one arm.

I dare you to try that with an eMac. Go ahead and try to lift one next time you're at the store. It weighs 50lbs! (Don't believe me? Check out the spec sheet.

In comparison, the 17" iMac weighs 18.5lbs and the 20" iMac weighs 25.2lbs (spec sheet).

But the eMac would have an 8X Superdrive and better graphics card for hundreds less.

What makes you think it will have a better optical drive or graphics card?

Apple doesn't work that way. They would never ship their best peripherals in their lowest-cost systems without also upgrading the higher-cost models.

If the eMac does get an 8x Superdrive and Radeon 9600 (which I highly doubt), then there will be similar upgrades to the iMac as well. But I personally don't believe the rumor.

 

[quagmire]

If the eMac does get an 8x Superdrive and Radeon 9600 (which I highly doubt), then there will be similar upgrades to the iMac as well. But I personally don't believe the rumor.

The eMac already has an 8x superdrive.

 

[mai]

nooouuu, nooo

New Powerbooks
G5s are nowhere near ready as are dual G4s. There will however be slight upgrades and price drops.

an why do we have to wait 'til wwdc for slight updates?? price drops would have been much more efficient before christmas, don't u think?
there will come a pb g5, dammed
_

 

[shamino]

The eMac already has an 8x superdrive.

Oops. My mistake. Silly me for assuming that someone else's wish list doesn't already exist as a shipping product.

 

[mkwilson68]

Well off the mark

There is *no way* that Steve will stand up in January and announce a trivial update to the PB - my guess is that EVERY effort is going into the PB G5, and that come hell or high water, it will be announced. The other items here are relatively inconsequential to Apple's bottom line: the PB is No2 to the iPod in importance to them right now.

My guess is:
PB G5 - shipping in a few months
Tiger - major new features shown for first time + ship date announced
Keynote 2 (finally)
Misc other minor bits

 

[wdlove]

There is *no way* that Steve will stand up in January and announce a trivial update to the PB - my guess is that EVERY effort is going into the PB G5, and that come hell or high water, it will be announced. The other items here are relatively inconsequential to Apple's bottom line: the PB is No2 to the iPod in importance to them right now.

My guess is:
PB G5 - shipping in a few months
Tiger - major new features shown for first time + ship date announced
Keynote 2 (finally)
Misc other minor bits

I wouldn't be so sure about a PowerBook G5. Remember Steve said that we would have a 3 GHz Power Mac by last summer also. Now we are at the one month mark to see what Steve has in store.

 

[Porcelina]

Just probably another disappointment...

I would say the powerbook upgrades seems so boring they´re problably true. Sadly. I would never have come up with such boring upgrades if i was to post fake specs... I´m hoping for G5s. Who´s not...

 

[joeconvert]

G5?

I´m hoping for G5s. Who´s not...

I can honestly say I rather have the low power consumption dual core G4 in at least one model.

Interestingly enough in the x86 world most folks like Dell have the dekstop replacement and the mobile systems. Granted the 17" PB has a tremendous amount of scree real estate, I don't feel there is enough real POWER difference between the ultra-mobile 12" and what can be argued to be a machien that has the size of a desktop replacement (17).

Oh well... there won't be different processor designs in Apple's mobile pro line. I will shut up now and take what I can get for the sake of the cult.

EDIT: "I heard that Steve's RDF will be the subject of the next Men In Black movie"

 

[x86isslow]

Whoa .. whoa .. whoa ...

Some guy makes a guess ... he doesn't say anything about how he knows or why he'd be privy to such information .. .and it's posted as a rumor?

Give me a break. How can this site ever claim to be believeable when it does stuff like this?

To the poster ... I suggest posting to forums as a normal person and not as someone with inside information.

look n00b, this site is called mac 'rumors'

it has something called 'page 2' , which is where the stuff the admins don't think is so believable goes.

as for why this got posted- this site has had no real rumors in a long time, so mudbug put this up just to spark some discussion.

so calm you n00b as down and go get laid instead of starting fights with other n00bs.

 

[spaceballl]

If they put an HD resolution LCD, that would be neat indeed, faster 8x superdrive, maybe 5400rpm HDD standard plus more ram.

I have a feeling they will save that fun stuff for the total overhaul the system gets when it has a G5. Looks like Apple is waiting for 65nm.
-Kevin

 

[iMeowbot]

Eh, that's all well and good (and probably on-the-mark), but we need something else... like a new hardware device or little piece of software. Something that's keynote worthy, not boring speed bumps.

In a dream the other night, this item was on CNN, so it must be true!

Socks were just the beginning. Apple and MGA Entertainment are to announce a new joint venture, Bratz Macz, a new line of stylin' clothing and accessories for your favorite computers and portable entertainment devices.

(If nothing else, this underscores the horror that is toy shopping.)