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This information is definitely helpful. If I can't get DD+ out of the Apple TV, either as decoded multi-channel pcm or a DD+ stream for decoding by a receiver, I may as well save myself some money until the Apple tv can output more than 640 kbps.
You can absolutely get DD+ as decoded multi-channel PCM over HDMI. That's currently the only way to play the 7.1 tracks included in some iTunes movies.
How were you able to determine these bit rates? I have no way of determining the pcm bit rate since neither receiver I own will display this information with a 4k or 3rd generation Apple TV.
The PCM bitrate is:

<sample rate>*<sample depth>*<number of channels>

For example, a 48KHz/16-bit 5.1 track is 48000*16*6 or about 4.6 Mbps.

If the Apple TV ever supports more advanced audio codecs, such as DTS-MA or Dolby TrueHD, they aren't supported via optical:
More importantly for the ATV, optical S/PDIF cannot carry multichannel-PCM, so as long as the ATV doesn't support real bitstreaming it's not possible to output multichannel audio over S/PDIF losslessly.
There is no way a light cable can not achieve bitrates of a copper cable. So throughput should not be an issue.
That's absolutely possible. HDMI (copper) has a much higher bandwidth than S/PDIF (optical).
 
That's absolutely possible. HDMI (copper) has a much higher bandwidth than S/PDIF (optical).
What I wanted to say is, that this is purposeful design. Or maybe another excuse is the available tech at that moment.
But I can not believe a copper signal path has throughput advantage over a light signal path.
 
What I wanted to say is, that this is purposeful design. Or maybe another excuse is the available tech at that moment.
But I can not believe a copper signal path has throughput advantage over a light signal path.
It's primarily due to cost and the required robustness for consumer applications. TOSLINK cables are usually made out of 1mm plastic fiber (POF), which makes them cheaper to manufacture but limits performance and cable length compared to glass fiber.
 
Bitrate is not going to tell you that DD+ is a better encode than DD, in fact, the bitrates might be lower for DD+ at the same number of channels, but it is a higher quality lossy encoding.

When you set the surround to "Best Available", the ATV decodes the highest quality audio, mixes system sounds, then re-encodes to LPCM up to 7.1 channels. For upcoming tvOS 12, Dolby Atmos will be implemented by decoding the DD+ Atmos audio, mixing system sounds, then re-encoding to DD+ Atmos...however, regular DD+ will still output as PCM, (as seen by current betas).

The TOSLINK/optical connection can support DTS (lossy) & DD+, but typically only has hardware to support DD 5.1, so going through your TV will limit your results, as the TV will take whatever you give it and output DD. [Optical is capable of much more than copper, however, development was pushed back by the copper industry, or else we'd have a new optical video+audio connection instead of HDMI today. (OWC made a 30 Meter (100 ft.) optical thunderbolt cable that had no speed degradation). Yes, one might argue fiber optics have a higher cost, but, that could be brought down if the industry had really gone for it and kept developing the tech at each end of the cable, and overturned the industry so they were making more optical than copper cables, the more mass produced, the lower the cost.] [Also, the internet is connected between continents via fiber optical cables.]
 
For upcoming tvOS 12, Dolby Atmos will be implemented by decoding the DD+ Atmos audio, mixing system sounds, then re-encoding to DD+ Atmos...however, regular DD+ will still output as PCM, (as seen by current betas).
That is not what can be seen on current tvOS 12 beta. My AVR claims it is receiving Atmos on Linear PCM.
 
Yep, that's what I thought. But they have come up with something called Dolby MAT: see post #24 in this thread!
The whitepaper itself is this one here: https://www.dolby.com/us/en/technologies/dolby-atmos/dolby-atmos-for-the-home-theater.pdf, page 12.
I think I've skimmed this before, but, the description of Dolby MAT didn't make much sense until you (and perhaps another on AVSforum) described what your AVR shows, plus, understanding how apple implements audio in the ATV. I can no longer say Atmos is only either Dolby TrueHD or DD+.
 
Finally replaced my existing receiver and now get multi-channel PCM from Netflix and iTunes movies. The sound is so much better than regular DD.

I was impressed with the ATV 4K before I replaced my receiver. Now, I'm even more impressed because the sound quality is moving closer to its picture quality.
 
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The audio bitrates for Netflix, Amazon and most stream media sources are abysmal, ranging from about 128 kbps to 256 kbps.

Paying a little more attention to the Netflix audio bitrates, it turns out they are really variable, not consistent from movie to movie. Last night I did see a 640 kbps audio soundtrack, but that seems to be the exception.
 
More importantly for the ATV, optical S/PDIF cannot carry multichannel-PCM, so as long as the ATV doesn't support real bitstreaming it's not possible to output multichannel audio over S/PDIF losslessly.
That's absolutely possible. HDMI (copper) has a much higher bandwidth than S/PDIF (optical).

Functionality over Toslink is also severely limited by the fact that the AppleTV 4/4K doesn't have an optical output jacket.
 
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Functionality over Toslink is also severely limited by the fact that the AppleTV 4/4K doesn't have an optical output jacket.
But Toslink is kind of irrelevant in this day and age for AV content, no?
No modern or lossless or object-based codec is supported, so best one can get is DTS Core 5.1
 
Functionality over Toslink is also severely limited by the fact that the AppleTV 4/4K doesn't have an optical output jacket.
I just mentioned it since the OP has connected his AVR to the TV via TOSLINK. Besides, the current HDMI ARC (the other digital option to connect AVRs/soundbars to a TV as audio output device) has very similar limitations. The new eARC feature (specified by HDMI 2.1) will finally lift this bottleneck.
 
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