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My Apple Branded SSD says no Trim ????

alexxn

alexxn

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May 14, 2009
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So I just installed a Toshiba / Apple SSD in my 2011 MBP, installed ML fresh install and it's saying No Trim Support ?? What gives ??

APPLE SSD TS256B:

Capacity: 251 GB (251,000,193,024 bytes)
Model: APPLE SSD TS256B
Revision: AGAA0205
Serial Number: 69MS108WT0SZ
Native Command Queuing: No
Removable Media: No
Detachable Drive: No
BSD Name: disk0
Medium Type: Solid State
TRIM Support: No
Partition Map Type: GPT (GUID Partition Table)
S.M.A.R.T. status: Verified
Volumes:
 
Ah so you installed it after buying the machine? Maybe it needs a reinstall then to be detected properly.
 
GekkePrutser said:
Ah so you installed it after buying the machine? Maybe it needs a reinstall then to be detected properly.
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I installed the SSD, booted from my ML USB key, ran disk utility and formatted, then installed ML fresh. Rebooted twice and even tried resetting NVRAM but still no luck.
 
dmccloud said:
If you look at the Macrumors article I linked above, NCQ is not enabled there either...
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It's enabled on the rMBP .. possibly different Chipset w/ the Ivy Bridge processors versus 2010/2011 models ..

The KEXT modification used in the terminal command TRIM 'hack'/ process uses the 'APPLE' string ..Interesting .. Ironic thing is , if OP had put in a Samsung and used the terminal mod , TRIM would be enabled ..

won't comment on trim enabler app ..never used it ..
 
So I guess I have a few options here, searching the internet has turned up nothing, and the few things I found (not the Trim hack) didn't seem to work either.

I can:

1) Run my drive as is (with no Trim) and roll the dice to see what eventually happens.

2) Try the Trim Hack with my Apple SSD and see what happens.

3) Try my luck at the Genius Bar (which I'm sure will be a waste of time seeing how the SSD isn't original to my laptop)

4) Bite the bullet and buy another Apple SSD (later model one)

5) Buy an aftermarket SSD (Samsung 830 seems to be most popular)

Now what to do ???

I thinks it's really a shame how Apple says their SSD's are Trim enabled from 10.6.8 yet that isn't the case here :confused:
 
Well this is terrific, tried to use Trim Enabler and while it identifies my SSD it says it's not supported.

Scratch #2 above :(
 
alexxn said:
2) Try the Trim Hack with my Apple SSD and see what happens.
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Why not just do this in the first place does TRIMenabler supposedly cause problems? The only issues I've had with mine is that it resets itself during major system updates. But honestly it's not a big deal to just turn it back on.

3) Try my luck at the Genius Bar (which I'm sure will be a waste of time seeing how the SSD isn't original to my laptop)
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It sounds like native TRIM without a hack is important to you, it's probably worth a try. They're not going to charge to just look at the laptop.

5) Buy an aftermarket SSD (Samsung 830 seems to be most popular)
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This is probably what I would have done in the first place. The Samsung 830 is a great drive.

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applerepairs said:
Trim Enabler is for non-Apple drives. I m 100% Sure...
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LOL! This has been brought up at least two times already.

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alexxn said:
Well this is terrific, tried to use Trim Enabler and while it identifies my SSD it says it's not supported.

Scratch #2 above :(
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Is the SSD older? Maybe it doesn't support TRIM?
 
T5BRICK said:
Why not just do this in the first place does TRIMenabler supposedly cause problems? The only issues I've had with mine is that it resets itself during major system updates. But honestly it's not a big deal to just turn it back on.



It sounds like native TRIM without a hack is important to you, it's probably worth a try. They're not going to charge to just look at the laptop.



This is probably what I would have done in the first place. The Samsung 830 is a great drive.

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LOL! This has been brought up at least two times already.

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Is the SSD older? Maybe it doesn't support TRIM?
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I did Try Trim Enabler and it says my drive is not supported.

You are correct, I specifically bought an Apple SSD to have native Trim - way too many back and forth threads about the Trim Hack working or being good or bad to use etc.

I'm starting to think it may be an older Apple SSD and not Trim supported, I should have done my homework instead of assuming "All Apple SSD's support native Trim" which I'm sure I've read somewhere.

Now I have to decide wheteher it's worth dropping even more $ on another SSD or leaving this one as is and see what happens.
 
T5BRICK said:
It sounds like native TRIM without a hack is important to you, it's probably worth a try. They're not going to charge to just look at the laptop.
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I just made an appointment with the Genius Bar for later this afternoon.
 
Well I just got back from Apple. I played dumb when he said my laptop came with a 500GB 5400rpm drive, I said I bought it the way it was from Best Buy. Basically told me he has no "magic" switch to turn on to enable Trim and told me not to worry about it, yada yada.

So I guess I'll load it up as is and see what happens for now. Unless I find a great deal on a newer Apple SSD.
 
alexxn said:
Well I just got back from Apple. I played dumb when he said my laptop came with a 500GB 5400rpm drive, I said I bought it the way it was from Best Buy. Basically told me he has no "magic" switch to turn on to enable Trim and told me not to worry about it, yada yada.

So I guess I'll load it up as is and see what happens for now. Unless I find a great deal on a newer Apple SSD.
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Why are you so adamant about running trim? You should sell that one or see if the eBay seller will accept returns. Then buy a Crucial or Samsung SSD, they don't need trim to run efficiently.
 
Irock619 said:
Why are you so adamant about running trim? You should sell that one or see if the eBay seller will accept returns. Then buy a Crucial or Samsung SSD, they don't need trim to run efficiently.
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And if you do want to enable TRIM on those drives, you can just use the TRIM enabler.
 
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