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My dad bought a 17 Pro and doesn't even notice Liquid Glass
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Same here on iOS 18 some apps are updating with the iOS 26 icon design. It's annoying.
Oh, so my mom isn’t using my old iPhone 11 Pro? Who’s is it then?
You tell me, apparently you know.
Is accusing someone of lying for no reason an offense on MR?
Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but you’re acting like LG is a niche thing you don’t notice.
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As a very casual user, IOS26 has been a great toy. And since I’ve been toying with it, it’s caused me to learn IOS a bit better which is not a bad thing. I wish though Apple would address the keyboard typing inaccuracy issue with one of these updates. That’s more important to me than a prettified interface.
I love how some people are „angry“ at your comment.
How dare you not like the new design language, how do you speak up as an elderly person that is directly affected by the reduced visual clarity and all the fake layering in Mac apps.
How dare you have a different opinion!
Agreed.
But how did Apple force iOS 13 onto it? Doesn’t the 6s support up to iOS 15? I think that’s what’s running on my, now gimped, SE.
iOS 9 was such an efficient OS, I could easily get 7 hours of battery with playing games, without them 10 whole hours, repeatedly.
Now we are supposed to be happy with 5.
This is the case with all things online, right? A small % of people have strong (or extreme) opinions on certain topics, but because there are a lot of people, that small % results in a large absolute number of people - enough to fill your social media timelines and make it look like they are the majority. But they are not.
Same with demonstrations on whatever subject, if you gather people from across a nation to come to one location to express their opinion, it will look like most people have that opinion, but the truth is that the majority of people are at home minding their own business.
Same with demonstrations on whatever subject, if you gather people from across a nation to come to one location to express their opinion, it will look like most people have that opinion, but the truth is that the majority of people are at home minding their own business.
Calling this “something that “normal” people don’t even notice” is… a take.
Agreed!
There is an issue with A9 devices (1st-gen 9.7-inch and 12.9-inch iPad Pros, 1st-gen (4-inch) iPhone SE, and the iPhone 6s and 6s Plus).
There was some problem in the activation servers of A9 devices on iOS 9. They started to be randomly deactivated and once that happens activation is no longer possible without updating. This ONLY affects A9 devices on some version of iOS 9 (9.0-9.3.5). Once the device deactivates, it it permanently bricked unless you update. My iPhone 6s ran iOS 9.3.3. My 9.7-inch iPad Pro ran iOS 9.3.4. Both were deactivated.
Back then, it was my main combo. It was the only iPhone and the only iPad I had. I had no choice but to update both. The 6s was completely obliterated, as it was forced to iOS 13, which practically killed it. I know this because I have another 6s on iOS 10. I can literally compare them side by side. The 9.7-inch iPad Pro was affected earlier, and was forced to the FAR better (yet still pathetic vs iOS 9) iOS 12. Of course, they were forced to those version because they were the latest when the issue impacted me. September 2019 just before the release of iOS 13 for the iPad and six months later for the 6s. I obviously never updated them again. I never update anything regardless.
I got 8-9 hours of SOT on my 6s on iOS 9. Now I get 4. I got 14.5 hours of SOT on my 9.7-inch iPad Pro. Now I get 10.
For reference, this is what showed up:
Today, you need to have the iPhone jailbroken and activated, you need to save activation tickets BEFORE this happens, and you need to delete Setup.app (the app responsible for iOS setup), which is the app that shows there and CANNOT be exited, as it is the app that blocks activation and is responsible for activation lock. Again, all this before it happens.
I caught the bug early, and I had no access to this information. Back when I had the issue on both devices, this had not been discovered.
Just like that, a beautiful iPhone-iPad combo on iOS 9, gone forever. I’ve never forgiven Apple for that.
They have never fixed the ****ing server-side issue. They don’t care. Some have said that there was some sort of issue with radios on A9 devices on iOS 9 and Apple deliberately blocks activation. Apple has obviously NEVER spoken about this. It is probably deliberate.
This is pure, malicious, planned obsolescence. The other cases are debatable because you can stay behind. This one is 100% malicious.
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Exactly. This is why statistical data is so important. It's not perfect., it can be manipulated, but it is still a better way to judge popular opinion than listening to who shouts the loudest.
The problem with the internet is that it strongly favors those who shout the loudest, so we end up with an extremely distorted view of what's really happening.
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Referring to people in general as "normies" or "normal people" in the way posters do on these threads is more than a little insulting. It implies a massive amount of unjustified entitlement on the part of users who are posting.
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Sure. We have different opinions here. But you said "if people don't notice major changes, Apple shouldn't change them" - and I sadi "I do notice them, and I like them". And I like a refresh now and then, it's exciting! That's all. It comes down to subjective opinions and different tastes. Suffice to say, Apple believes there's more people like me, that's why they do it. Whether they are right or wrong, who knows? I guess they have some market research.
I have a theory that much of the constant negativity that has appeared on these forums over the past couple of years is either bots or people actually employed by Apple's competition specifically to trash Apple's reputation. It seems that just about any post is replied with an avalanche of copy-and-paste "Apple isn't what it used to be, Apple's quality control is now terrible, everything hangs and stutters, Apple should never have released this software, Android is now better" comments. Genuine beta testers, for example, wouldn't make these comments. Five years ago these forums were genuinely useful and insightful, now they are just full of negativity. I always install public (non-beta) updates on the day they are released, and never have the issues I read about on these forums.
As for Liquid Glass - I was really looking forward to it, installed it and was unsure about it on day one. Day three I picked up the work phone (still on iOS 18) and thought it looked tired and dated 😂 I love Liquid Glass now. We need to remember that Apple "perfected" the flat look from iOS 7 through to iOS 18. Liquid Glass with evolve and be refined over time, just like every other version of iOS.
As for Liquid Glass - I was really looking forward to it, installed it and was unsure about it on day one. Day three I picked up the work phone (still on iOS 18) and thought it looked tired and dated 😂 I love Liquid Glass now. We need to remember that Apple "perfected" the flat look from iOS 7 through to iOS 18. Liquid Glass with evolve and be refined over time, just like every other version of iOS.
The OP reveals a certain level of incoherence that you nailed. First of all, one or even a few people who might not be bothered or even observant about changes doesn't mean that it is the norm, but even more significant is the question you raise: if it doesn't matter to the majority of the people (assuming that the OP's dad is representative of 'most' users) then why did Apple make such a big deal out of it? Forcing a minority into an experience that they can't stand in order to create stylistic changes that most don't notice makes ZERO sense.
It's about a 50/50 split in my unit at work, on work phones, of people who like liquid glass (or don't care either way), or can't stand it. No one has updated their personal devices to iOS 26, and as far as I can tell, Apple hasn't pushed the iOS 26 update prompt yet...so you haven't got the update unless you request it. No one in my unit is a techie, and while I am, I'm not an early adopter...and I think iOS 26 sucks, so I'm waiting on my personal phone.
IT here updated us because the 16e models they were buying started coming with iOS 26 preinstalled...or so I was told. I can't tell any difference in battery on my SE 2022.
Being dismissive because you don't like the content of people's responses isn't the way to go about it. Plenty of Apple users are just upset with current Apple for a multitude of reasons..myself included.
IT here updated us because the 16e models they were buying started coming with iOS 26 preinstalled...or so I was told. I can't tell any difference in battery on my SE 2022.
Being dismissive because you don't like the content of people's responses isn't the way to go about it. Plenty of Apple users are just upset with current Apple for a multitude of reasons..myself included.
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That's because the much-touted "liquid glass" is indeed barely noticeable if you turn off all that unusable "clear" or "tinted" nonsense - I just have "dark" mode on and also can't see anything relevant from the overhyped liquid glass thing.
This just proves that the level of innovation at Apple is down the drain - not to mention that real under the hood fixes are close to nonexistent.
The saddest thing is that if you DO turn everything on, as if trying to really enjoy LG, then the phone becomes impossible to use UI-wise.
That is funny: I started to think exactly the opposite. Here on MR are people who defend Apple no matter how big the bug is or the concerns are. Who paid them?
This thread is going down an interesting route.
If you don´t like LG you are without a real life, have too much time, complain about nothing etc etc.
I don´t want to say in the beginning of this discusssion, but if you don´t see a difference between 18 and 26 - espacially in dark mode - you have to be blind. The new icons alone jump in your face as if you are no more on iOS. And all this liquid stuff everywhere - disturbing your field of view..you must see it immediately. And let´s not talk about the extra clicks....I discover a new one twice a week.
the endless whinging about iOS being locked down is tiresome.
it's not new.
it was designed from the outset to be a different, controlled environment to make support simple and reduce risk.
noone can argue they did it for the money.
the initial phone shipped with only Apple apps and there was no app store.
Apple built the very successful AppStore and has every right to control what apps and functions they allow those apps to do knowing how they could impact other apps, system integrity or reputation of the product.
there is a viable option for those who dont want to be locked down.
there is no viable locked option available if Apple are forced to open it up.
i lose out because a few vocal opponents refuse to accept the option available to them.
it's the same with iPad.
it is a touch first device.
it is not a desktop computer.
yes, the hardware is powerful but that's no reason to demand it run a desktop OS.
Apple have converged some functionality over time.
but a thin portable powerful device is going to run out of battery quickly or heat up giving a subpar "desktop experience". then there would be more complaints.
are Apple perfect? no.
but competition drives change and pricing.
and that benefits every consumer.
So much angst felt by many, but so few.
To sum up the months of comments on LG; OMG, I saw Liquid Glass, and I nearly died!
If you have one of the bigger phones, why don’t you set everything to large in Accessibilities settings. I use duck duck go browser, and set text to a larger size, so when I’m viewing this website, I don’t need my reading glasses.
iPhone 15 Pro Max with iOS 26.0.1 The UI while running Home app seems to be designed for people with thin fingers. To close the app you normally swipe up from the bottom. When I do that it always changes to Discover or Automation...then app closes... Is my finger fat?