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My i9 /Vega 20 experience
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You jumped the gun and returned a perfectly good computer. The fact that you’re surprised the battery was quickly being used, with the fans at full speed, says it all.
I would recommend checking to see if a photos app (very common cause for macs to be spinning it’s wheels randomly) is running in the activity monitor, but you already returned it.
I would recommend checking to see if a photos app (very common cause for macs to be spinning it’s wheels randomly) is running in the activity monitor, but you already returned it.
Again, spotlight does take days to run. It doesn't work the same way as AV. lol.
Depending how much software is installed, files, and external storages, it will take a while to index.
Either way, it sounds like a crappy application that you are running.
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lol. My Dell XPS for work, the fan roars for no reason at all. It just spins up and down and up and down all the time.
Good to know, hoping my new i7 Vega 20 does the same. And I usually wipe the drive clean and install the OS from scratch on any new device I receive for peace of mind, that should be fun too.
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I've got the i7/32Gb/1TB/Vega 20 machine and I am more than thrilled. I returned an i9/32Gb/1TB/560X for this machine and couldn't be happier. I haven't noticed any performance drop with the i9 to i7 so either the Vega is making up for it or I never push the machine enough to cap out the i7 where the i9 might not. Either way, I think you should have given it at least a couple days.
"Power management" is a bandaid, a work around the fact that some software devs are either lazy, not skilled, or simply not interested in providing best experience to their users. Apple's macOS is second to no other OS when it comes to efficiency and it gives the devs more than enough tools to manage resources in best possible way as well as inform the OS of the app's usage patterns so that they can be accommodated as efficiently as possible.
Artificially throttling down your machine just because some third-party app misbehaves is dumb. Blame the actual culprit, not the OS. Identify which app is causing this and complain to their devs so that they fix it. Good user experience is only possible if certain standards are upheld by all parties, not by throwing worthless bandaids onto the problem. Even more, bandaids like these promote bad practices and indirectly create more bad software.
Any of you folks with vega macbook pros run into the dreaded bridge os error? Literally the only reason I havent purchased yet.
0-0
macrumors 6502
Are you able to test if it is silent or not when watching 4K videos on full screen 4K TV?
I hooked it up to my 65" 4K Samsung TV in my living room and played some 4K youtube videos for about 15 minutes and I never saw the temperature over 80º C using Intel's Power Gadget. It peaked at about 80 but has been hovering closer to 70-73º C. It's still playing as I type this actually. I'm using the USB-C dock below in the link to connect the TV. With everything muted all I can hear is my dog in the corner of the room snoring. Not a sound from the Mac though.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/iogear-usb-c-docking-station/6269000.p?skuId=6269000
Thanks. If it is not too much trouble, please run longer in full screen mode and see if it is still silent.
So it's still running and I started doing some work(emails, PDF editing, web downloads) and the temperature got up close to 90º C and the fans ramped up a little. I downloaded a decibel meter to my iPhone, so I don't know how accurate it is, but my dog snoring over in the corner was hitting about 62 decibels and the Macbook was in the low 40s. So with any sound turned up on the tv you couldn't hear anything. And after about a minute of them running the temperature was down in the 60s and the fans went silent.
I mean...
These machines run hotter than quadcores.
Its the same dye size (14nm) as last two years (skylake)
And even skylake underperfomed compared to 22nm 2015 Haswells because previous retina model had better thermals.
Apple used the 14nm to shave off millimetres not to get better performance.
14nm chip would be faster in 2015 mode l than in 2016.
What can you expect from a 6-core then?
These machines run hotter than quadcores.
Its the same dye size (14nm) as last two years (skylake)
And even skylake underperfomed compared to 22nm 2015 Haswells because previous retina model had better thermals.
Apple used the 14nm to shave off millimetres not to get better performance.
14nm chip would be faster in 2015 mode l than in 2016.
What can you expect from a 6-core then?
Donnation
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An hour for indexing is ridiculous. It takes several hours and possibly a day or so for complete indexing to be finished. That doesn't make it a terrible piece of software, that makes it a one time process so that it is the most efficient software it can be when its completed.
As far as your other comments, Antivirus? Free Download Manager? WTF are you running on your Mac? Honestly, you've given zero indication that you even needed a laptop this powerful.
What are you talking about? Skylake 2016 models performed exactly as they were supposed to, on par with any other Skylake laptop. And the 2016+ chassis, despite its thinness, has better thermals because of smarter airflow design.
There is simply not much performance increase from Haswell to Skylake in popular benchmarks, and that has nothing to do with Apple. In real world applications, Skylake did have a measurable advantage. More agile turbo boost resulted in quicker response times, and additional integer ALU did speed up some algorithms. I saw similar increase in performance from Haswell to Skylake as I saw from Skylake to Coffee Lake... I even posted detailed performance measures here on the forums back in 2016...
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but when soldered SSD will die after warranty, your MBP will go directly into the bin, on most PC you can replace SSD, this is the main difference between MBP 2018 and other PC laptops, enjoy ! 😵
[URL]https://browser.geekbench.com/macs/431
All things equal, 2016 should have benched higher.[/URL]
2,8 in 2015 benches higher than 2,8 jn 2016 despite die shrink.
While 2012 rMBP with the same chip as 2012 uMBP benched almost 1000 more.
Matty_TypeR
macrumors 6502a
Apple don't want any third party hardware speeding up your MacBook Pro, soldered ram, SSD and T2 chips take care of all you could upgrade yourself. The apple ecosphere gets a tighter grip on its hardware and user's. the reality is if you don't like it don't buy it, but in consideration for future sales of used Mac hardware. After the warranty runs out you can't pop down to the local genius bar to have a defective ram stick replaced or SSD drive.
in the next few years we will see who is prepared to take the risk on 3 year old hardware that has no upgrades available and if develops a problem could be an expensive repair. Apple has its user's by the short and curlys in no upgrade path and a yet to see 2nd hand value out of warranty.
diskotekblackbox
macrumors newbie
Same Experience for me, Gets Way to hot and the fans spins all the time, when i Connect my lg 34wk95u monitor it starts to get really sluggish so i sent it back