My iPhone 6s Plus Gone From Buttery-Smooth to Extremely Laggy Around the 11-month Point

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  1. MICHAELSD, Nov 20, 2016
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    MICHAELSD macrumors 68040

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    Around a week ago, my iPhone 6s Plus began to become laggy, seemingly struggling with every single task from initiating a phone call to scrolling through a contacts list. Many apps freeze up for the first few seconds after they're opened, then perform as if they're being bottlenecked even though the 6s Plus was performing very smoothly prior.

    This experience-breaking issue began when my 6s Plus was low on storage, and struggled to store pictures I had taken. This prompted the device to make it appear as if there were no pictures, emails, or contacts on the device even though the data remained as it attempted to re-index it all into iOS. In an effort to rectify this, I have freed up over 6GB of space on my device. It has processed all of the images and videos back into the Photos app, just yesterday restored contacts on its own, but the email app still struggles. It attempts to download mail from the server, then ends up just display's that there's no mail at all -- when before it had archived years of emails.

    Unfortunately the device is still acting just as laggy as it was and has made no progress restoring/downloading emails; I wouldn't even be able to use the keyboard on iOS to type this due to the unresponsiveness. Of course I could just restore it and begin anew, but I'm planning on upgrading to the 7 very soon so it's a bit of a waste of time.

    Ironically my iPhone 6 Plus exhibited a similar sort of behavior around the 11-month point, and I had chalked it up to being a one-time issue. While I don't believe this is planned obsolescence as it is more more of a coincidence, it is still odd to see a device go from working perfectly to lagging to the point where it is just about unusable with the only real solution being a complete restore. (I may also try deleting all the email accounts off of the device if the indexing in mail is causing it but I believe it's a deeper system issue, unless somebody has had a similar issue and knows another solution. I doubt it will fix it on its own.)

    Edit in title: Had Gone*
     
  2. CreativeC macrumors member

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    You might want to re-think that.
     
  3. Mlrollin91 macrumors G4

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    Restore the phone and everything should be fine and well again. I had an iPad 2 that lasted over 4 years. The only reason it didn't work anymore was because I installed iOS 9 on it and the lack of RAM made it impossible to browse the web. Safari would constantly crash. My GFs iPad 2 is still on 7.1.2. Almost 6 years old and still running great. The only thing she does is erase all settings and content about every 18 months. It cleans it up.
     
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    Where can I buy a tinfoil hat?
     
  5. CreativeC macrumors member

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    No need. See this graph. Also, look at the comparison videos on "EverythingApplePro" youtube channel and notice how the same iOS version runs slower and slower on "old" devices.
     
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    People who are adamant that iOS runs great on old devices have clearly never tried running ios 9 and up on an ipad 3
     
  7. Mlrollin91 macrumors G4

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    I'm sorry but no. As iOS grows, more powerful hardware is needed. If you leave your iOS device on the version of iOS it came with, everything will continue to be perfect. You can even install next years update. Its once you hit 2+ updates that you will start seeing the difference. That is because hardware ages and software matures, has nothing to do with planned obsolescence.
     
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    You don't understand how hardware and software work together if you think what they're showing is "planned obsolescence."
     
  9. CreativeC macrumors member

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    And yet, I can run Windows 10 on a computer that ran windows XP just fine and I can run the latest Ubuntu on 5-8 year old hardware and it runs just fine. As you go on, you generally should optimize stuff, not add more bloat.

    You don't say Sherlock? Too bad soon after Apple forces you to upgrade because otherwise you can no longer install recent apps. Also, you can't downgrade no longer in case you mistakenly upgrade.
     
  10. Mlrollin91 macrumors G4

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    As I stated above. My GF has an iPad 2 running 7.1.2. Everything continues to work fine and we have no problems download apps and updates for those apps. No one is requiring you to update and you are definitely not being forced. Let the update download, then delete it and it wont bother you again.

    I have a 2011 iMac running its 5th software update. Everything is fine. That computer came with Mountain Lion.
     
  11. CreativeC macrumors member

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    Let me know how your 7+ will work on iOS 11 or iOS 12. But I bet you won't find out because you'll be upgrading ASAP like the good boy your are.
     
  12. Pootmatoot macrumors 6502a

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    Slightly bizarre given Windows goes the opposite way. Put a Windows Vista machine on Windows 7. Massive speed increase. Again with Windows 8.

    Put that same machine on Windows 10, and it zips along even better.
     
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    I had 0 problems with my 6s on iOS 10 before I got my 7Plus. I had zero issues with my iPhone 6 on iOS 9. With the Fashion A-10 and 3GB of RAM, the iPhone 7Plus will live long past iOS 12.
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    Comparing full desktop OS to a phone is apples and oranges. Those have full desktop class processors, not mobile processors. You can upgrade the HDD/SSD, you can upgrade the RAM and so on. You cannot compare the two. As I mentioned, my iMac is almost 6 years old, running the 5th macOS release since I purchased it without a problem.

    And no, Windows 7 was horrendous. It made my Vista machine slow as can be. Windows 8 fixed what Windows 7 broke.
     
  14. Pootmatoot macrumors 6502a

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    No, I mean identical machines.

    Put a late 90s laptop - physically unchanged - and upgrade it to Windows 10, and you have a much faster machine.
     
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    I'm sorry but I do not believe that. Windows 8 was still crap on a 2011 Laptop, cannot imagine a late 90s machine running Windows 10 better than Windows 8 on a 2011 machine.

    But regardless, still Apples and Oranges. Its a phone, not a full-fledged computer.
     
  16. Pootmatoot macrumors 6502a

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    Well... it's true. It's not controversial, it's well known.

    Windows gets less resource intensive with each iteration - that's not true for install size, though.

    There's a similar pattern with Android.
     
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    software maturing does not automatically demand higher system requirements. I can run a quite up to date installation of debian + gnome on my old g4 ppc imac just fine, and I can run windows 10 on my old crappy intel atom netbook that I got before the ipad 3.

    sometimes it makes sense to raise hardware requirements, like I would never want to run OS X over OS 9 on a machine without at least 32mb of vram, and as a reward the UI looks nice enough to want to lick compared to OS 9. I cannot see advances in newer versions of iOS which pose both as being user beneficial as well as being impeded by 2 year old hardware. Instead, the reality is more likely that Apple only optimizes and tweaks new versions of iOS to perform excellently on the newest two generations of hardware, and then for everything older they only spend enough time to make it perform "adequately".
     
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    I would hardly call that planned obsolescence though. Its not ideal, but they are not purposefully making your device impossible to use to force you to upgrade to a new one. Because again, no one is required to update and no one is forced to update iOS. You get a pop-up that you can, then delete the version from storage and it wont bother you again.
     
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    Damn. You stole my thunder.
     
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    This isn't true either. You are basically forced into updating iOS if you want to continue getting updates for your apps.

    See, THIS is where Apple is exceptionally evil. They simply DROP support to developers for old versions of iOS.

    Want to run ios 7 on your ipad 3 forever? Too bad, nobody supports it anymore, Apple doesn't supply developer images anymore and you're basically screwed.
     
  21. lakaiordie macrumors 65816

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    you know that person does that stuff for clickbait for views so he can make money from youtube to do videos.

    he also spent $300 on that apple book.......

    take it with a grain of salt.
     
  22. Mlrollin91 macrumors G4

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    What I bolded is not true. My GF has an iPad 2 that I use on a regular basis that is on 7.1.2. All the apps that I use on my Air 2 that are on her iPad 2 are up to date to the same exact version of the app. It might apply to some apps that use newer APIs, but there are millions of apps that are still compatible with 7.1.2 and still receive updates.
     
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    Then your GF must not use very many custom apps because immediately I can tell you that big guns like YouTube, Mailbox, Chrome, Facebook, Messenger, Skype and so on all require either ios 8 or ios 9.
     
  24. Mlrollin91 macrumors G4

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    If, an app requires a newer version of iOS, you can still download the previous version. But, with the that being said, a majority of my apps are still being updated. Even Real Racing 3 is still compatible with 7.0+. That gets an update every 5 weeks. Apps that encompass newer APIs are the problem. But those that update the app without the newer API will still be compatible with iOS 7.

    To your list above. You don't need Facebook, Messenger, or Youtube on an iPad. A browser works fine. Those aren't even needed for an iPhone. Again browser works fine. No point in using Chrome because Chrome is just a Safari with a skin, so Safari works great. No problem with the stock mail application either. Skype would be the only one, but we don't use Skype, so the point is moot for us. As long as that iPad can hold a charge, it will remain on 7.1.2. Its almost 6 years old so its well past its prime anyway. It has definitely ran its course.
     
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    yeah.... so I think you will find that you're now trying to justify "well you don't need apps" as you've just learned that old versions of iOS are basically dead when it comes to apps. I'm pretty sure you now see the problem I was originally trying to convey :p
     

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